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Consolidated 2009 iMac (3.06GHz GT 130) Benchmarks

Yeah I'll be honest I do wish I was getting one with that ATI. I might just have to find a way to make this my new office computer in a couple of weeks. ; ) You know the Dem's let you write off more computer and tech crap than Republicans, true little known fact! 😱
 
Eidorian said:
It's tough to suggest a new machine when for the most part the new GPU is a higher clocked 8800M GTS in 55nm.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the 8800M in prev.gen. iMacs have only 32 shaders?

Whatever it's called, the GT 130 looks very much like a 9600GT (desktop), since clocks can always be adjusted manually. It's a shame it only uses 1 PCIe lane. Running 16x at 1x should be considered a crime! 😀

Also, there's a 9400M with 16 shader pipes, that's part of the chipset. If 9400M and 9600GT can be used together perhaps ATI 4850 isn't the best choise after all. I suppose that's a driver issue however, but it'd be cool if it was possible.
 
lastochka said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the 8800M in prev.gen. iMacs have only 32 shaders?

Whatever it's called, the GT 130 looks very much like a 9600GT (desktop), since clocks can always be adjusted manually. It's a shame it only uses 1 PCIe lane. Running 16x at 1x should be considered a crime! 😀

Also, there's a 9400M with 16 shader pipes, that's part of the chipset. If 9400M and 9600GT can be used together perhaps ATI 4850 isn't the best choise after all. I suppose that's a driver issue however, but it'd be cool if it was possible.
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I don't think they can be used together. I think it is like the Macbook Pro, where the firmware only allows one to run at once. People haven't cracked it on the MBP, I doubt they will crack it on the iMac.
 
Just returned from the Apple Store!

Bought the 3.06 / GT130 /wireless kb & m. Have to head out for a few before I open the box, but plan on doing some work tonight! After considerable consternation over whether to wait on the ATI card I decided to go ahead. From what I understand this isn't onboard so.... Possibly when the next card after the 4850 comes out and I am ready to move to 8G of Ram I can open her up and and upgrade? I don't think I will be dissappointed though moving from my PowerBook G4 to this baby! Haven't really effectively been able to play with any video editing for a while and am ready to chomp some of this HD video!

jt
 
avihappy said:
I don't think they can be used together. I think it is like the Macbook Pro, where the firmware only allows one to run at once. People haven't cracked it on the MBP, I doubt they will crack it on the iMac.
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That sounds like poor engineering to me. 16 shader pipes are simply wasted then. Considering how nvidia has been promoting it's CUDA and asymmetric SLI with different cards, and how the upcoming OSX alledgedly will be reliant on OpenCL you'd think they'd utilize every transistor on a silicon.

BTW: nvidia's drivers already allow using different cards in a WinPC system to be utilized for graphics and physics. Maybe if one runs Windows 7... 🙂
 
Thanks a lot for this info.... The discussion can go on!!!! Shall we wait for the 4850 or buy this machine with the GT130???? 😕
 
The Plot Thickens

Finally got Vista Home Premium patched, tweaked and flying (boot camp). It lists the card as a 9800 variant.


Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8435 @ 3.06GHz (3051 MHz)
Operating System: Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium, 32-bit (Service Pack 1)
DirectX version: 10.0
GPU processor: GeForce 9800 X
Driver version: 178.46
Stream processors: 64
Core clock: 529 MHz
Shader clock: 1323 MHz
Memory clock: 792 MHz (1584 MHz data rate)
Memory interface: 256-bit
Total available graphics memory: 1779 MB
Dedicated video memory: 512 MB
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 1267 MB
Video BIOS version: 62.94.74.00.05
IRQ: 23
Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen2

After rooting around the boot camp folders I noticed there are only 2 logical choices for Nvidia driver packages when using Vista x32. Upon re-running boot camp ( I had driver issues all over on first pass but that is another story) the default installed driver listed the above, showing some variant of a 9800 card. Very much like the 9800M GS in fact, which it appears the GT 130 is masked as.

Of course I tried to install the other driver package. Sure enough it installed the GT 130, but showing the same specs as the above 9800.

NVIDIA System Information report created on: 03/08/2009 23:56:54
System name: TOMMYSIMAC

[Display]
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8435 @ 3.06GHz (3051 MHz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista (Service Pack 1)
DirectX version: 10.0
GPU processor: GeForce GT 130
ForceWare version: 177.56
Total available graphics memory: 1779 MB
Dedicated video memory: 512 MB
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 1267 MB
Video BIOS version: 62.94.74.00.05
IRQ: 23
Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen2




*****OpenMark Scores Added max res******


OpenMark started...
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cpu type: 0x69353836
opengl vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
opengl renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 130 OpenGL Engine
opengl version: 2.0 NVIDIA-1.5.38
test parms:
surface 1920x1200 32bpp
textures: on
lighting: on
keep in sync: off
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final score: 39854
test stopped

I'll try to run more tomorrow and report back but my wife and kids are coming back home and well, many of you know how that goes. 😉
 
Stuff I found while searching this site...

iMac 24" 2.16Ghz 2GB
NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT 256M
1920x1200x32
score 13686, Mac OS X 10.4.10

Powerbook 12" 1.5Ghz
Nv GeForce FX Go5200 64M
1024x768x32
score 1411, 10.5 Leopard 9A559

iMac 24" 2.16Ghz 2GB
NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT 256M
1920x1200x32
score 13686, 10.5 Leopard 9A559




though what we need now is someone with a 3.06 8800gs to post
 
rittchard said:
Nice Review from PC Magazine, including a side link to a spreadsheet comparison of benchmarks:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342785,00.asp

http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=230029,00.asp
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Thank you, that's a great find! 🙂
The benchmarks clearly show the GT130 being slightly better than the last iMac's 8800GS and even the best one for Crysis at mid-details. Doesn't seem that bad for me.

However I'm wondering if the Radeon HD 4850 on the HP system is the same one as in the iMac. Would be a considerable leap compared to the GT130. :/
 
MyDesktopBroke said:
Funny that the 130 was faster than the 4850 for mid setting Crysis, but 4850 won in high (not that is was a great score either way).
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Actually those benchmarks are very depressing for those hoping the iMac would give them some relief on the gaming front. The benchmarks for games over a year old are low enough that it pretty much rules out playing newer games coming this year with any modicum of performance.

Radeon 4850 Mobility, you're our only hope!

Or, I suppose I can get a Mac Pro with a Radeon 4870, or maybe just a Mac Mini and a separate PC for gaming (blah).
 
could this possible be the 9800M GTS? apple likes underclocking things and calling them the lower model for some reason 😕😕
 
jmpage2 said:
Actually those benchmarks are very depressing for those hoping the iMac would give them some relief on the gaming front. The benchmarks for games over a year old are low enough that it pretty much rules out playing newer games coming this year with any modicum of performance.

Radeon 4850 Mobility, you're our only hope!

Or, I suppose I can get a Mac Pro with a Radeon 4870, or maybe just a Mac Mini and a separate PC for gaming (blah).
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The only two games I care about are Starcraft 2 & Diablo 3, both of which don't seem to require intensive graphics while still looking great. And they're Mac native. From what people are saying, anything better than a Geforce 8600
will run SC2 perfectly, and Diablo 3 doesn't look like it will be that much more demanding.
 
MyDesktopBroke said:
The only two games I care about are Starcraft 2 & Diablo 3, both of which don't seem to require intensive graphics while still looking great. And they're Mac native. From what people are saying, anything better than a Geforce 8600
will run SC2 perfectly, and Diablo 3 doesn't look like it will be that much more demanding.
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even my old LC575 (made in 1995ish) can run SC2 😛
 
jmpage2 said:
The benchmarks for games over a year old are low enough that it pretty much rules out playing newer games coming this year with any modicum of performance.
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Exaxtly what "newer games coming this year" are you ruling out being able to play?

Dawn of War 2, which was just released less than a month ago, plays fine in High settings at 1920x1200. I have no doubt SC2 and Diablo 3 are going to be great.

Keep in mind that most developers are trying to follow Blizzard's example and design for the low/mid end. There are very few new games in development (nothing off the top of my head) that are being specifically designed for the bleeding edge (in the way, for instance, Origin, used to do in years past).
 
Does anyone do their own homework or just hope the random person will be right?

Look there is no question here. It's an Imac so it's a mobile part. In fact basically every all-in-1 system uses mobile parts. As far as superior cards, if your a gamer get the ATI 4850. It's a great card and is well reviewed by all and beatr the Nvidia 130 by far. (I've now had both due to initial mistake on my sales guys part) Not to mention the best card you can get in the Imac anyway. Not sure if I am allowed to link on here but here's a site giving a very accurate account for top say 100 cards in order. Also this isn't one sites opinion, though they do very a little, this is roughly what every pro has to say about the cards. http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4850.13975.0.html
 
Nice Thread Necro - Maybe You Should Do Your Homework

BADDman said:
Look there is no question here. It's an Imac so it's a mobile part. In fact basically every all-in-1 system uses mobile parts. As far as superior cards, if your a gamer get the ATI 4850. It's a great card and is well reviewed by all and beatr the Nvidia 130 by far. (I've now had both due to initial mistake on my sales guys part) Not to mention the best card you can get in the Imac anyway. Not sure if I am allowed to link on here but here's a site giving a very accurate account for top say 100 cards in order. Also this isn't one sites opinion, though they do very a little, this is roughly what every pro has to say about the cards. http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4850.13975.0.html
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Your message title was something about "does anyone do their homework or just hope the random person is right?". Well maybe you should open your eyes and you'd see the thread you just necro'd was more than 1 month old. Yes we've all done our homework - we've all read countless bmark scores and comparison reports and everyone has known for quite some time now what the cards are.
 
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