Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
The editors should read their own stories... it might give them a clue...

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/0...ebut-priced-at-29-99-mac-app-store-exclusive/

OS X Lion Server isn't a totally separate installation, just additional apps that can be run on top of Lion. Server will be available for $49.99 through the App Store.

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/0...re-separate-paid-download-from-mac-app-store/

a discovery in a help file for a Mac OS X Lion developer build suggests that users will be required to download a paid app from the Mac App Store in order to activate the server components of Lion

Hmm... I wonder why there's a constraint on the server versions of these products???
 
I'm hoping we see Apple embrace the concept of the Mini as a home media system. With the Mac App Store, all they need to do is tweak up the graphics and develop an awesome looking game controller and the Mac opens up a whole new platform. There are so many possibilities with that machine.
 
I'm hoping we see Apple embrace the concept of the Mini as a home media system. With the Mac App Store, all they need to do is tweak up the graphics and develop an awesome looking game controller and the Mac opens up a whole new platform. There are so many possibilities with that machine.

A $700 game machine huh
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

I've been waiting a good long while now for the Mac mini to be refreshed. The moment it is I'm buying one for my wife's family.
 
Mac Mini will be refreshed soon. You know why? Because I just bought 1 yesterday!!! (thought about waiting for Lion but I wanted to have a stable server for now and wait out ti'll the bugs in Lion gets ironed out, I do get a free upgrade anyways).

Apple website shows shipping within 24 hours on the current models.
 
I'm hoping we see Apple embrace the concept of the Mini as a home media system. With the Mac App Store, all they need to do is tweak up the graphics and develop an awesome looking game controller and the Mac opens up a whole new platform. There are so many possibilities with that machine.

I think that the Mac Mini has a lot of potential. I used to look down on them until I started reading a lot of the posts here at MR by owners. One of the things that I don't understand (and there are a bunch) is why does Apple limit the potential of these machines by using laptop components? Yeah, I do realize that it is small, but why is it that small. This is a desktop computer. Why not make something the size of the G4 Cube and use some real and less expensive components? I read a comment recently where someone was talking about the current iMac and making suggestions on how they could make the iMac 50% thinner! I don't know why it is as thin as it is now. These are desktop computers, they do not need to be so small that they can fit into a woman's purse! These are desktop computers and desktop computer buyers want as much performance as possible. So stop hobbling these computers for the sake of style over substance.
 
Nothing looks particularly constrained on the Apple Store, normal build times. I suspect it might be a discontinuation of the line, and the other models will have it as a pre-install option.
 
I think that the Mac Mini has a lot of potential. I used to look down on them until I started reading a lot of the posts here at MR by owners. One of the things that I don't understand (and there are a bunch) is why does Apple limit the potential of these machines by using laptop components? Yeah, I do realize that it is small, but why is it that small. This is a desktop computer. Why not make something the size of the G4 Cube and use some real and less expensive components? I read a comment recently where someone was talking about the current iMac and making suggestions on how they could make the iMac 50% thinner! I don't know why it is as thin as it is now. These are desktop computers, they do not need to be so small that they can fit into a woman's purse! These are desktop computers and desktop computer buyers want as much performance as possible. So stop hobbling these computers for the sake of style over substance.

+1. I couldn't agree more.

And to answer your question with my personal opinion, I think Apple just has horrible strategists and they're too full of themselves to care about what the market demands. The reason they can survive with this mentality is because the competition is sticking to a bad and overpriced operating system instead of picking up Linux and building it into a more serious OS X competitor in terms of user-friendliness.

It's been like this for years, and my guess is it'll be another 2-3 years before a group of entrepreneurs with serious startup cash will realize this obvious GAPING niche and fill it in. So maybe in 5 years we will see some real competition to Apple and they will be forced to listen to the consumer with an open mind again.
 
The Mac Mini and MP Server are NOT constrained. This looks like a totally bogus 'hit whore' rumor from 9-5.

JohnG
 
With Steve Jobs continuing on about the "post-pc era" we are in (what??), I am not hopeful about any MP or MM updates.

Soon, Apple won't even sell computers anymore, so get them while they are still here people!! :D
 
I think that the Mac Mini has a lot of potential. I used to look down on them until I started reading a lot of the posts here at MR by owners. One of the things that I don't understand (and there are a bunch) is why does Apple limit the potential of these machines by using laptop components? Yeah, I do realize that it is small, but why is it that small. This is a desktop computer. Why not make something the size of the G4 Cube and use some real and less expensive components? I read a comment recently where someone was talking about the current iMac and making suggestions on how they could make the iMac 50% thinner! I don't know why it is as thin as it is now. These are desktop computers, they do not need to be so small that they can fit into a woman's purse! These are desktop computers and desktop computer buyers want as much performance as possible. So stop hobbling these computers for the sake of style over substance.
The iMacs use desktop class processors. And the MBP people may have something to say to you about their non-"real" components.
 
It's been like this for years, and my guess is it'll be another 2-3 years before a group of entrepreneurs with serious startup cash will realize this obvious GAPING niche and fill it in.

Do you mean the "gaping" niche that are running Linux netbooks? There is no "gaping" niche. There is a small, but vocal, group of people that think Linux is the answer to everything. It isn't for the vast majority.

However, your big group of entrepreneurs may be the companies making Chromebooks. They are 4 of the top 10 notebooks on Amazon (Apple has 3 in the top 10) today. Will they appeal to the general public? It isn't clear yet. Windows 7 is here to stay, and people in general do like it. Plus, it has this behemoth--Office.
 
Do you mean the "gaping" niche that are running Linux netbooks? There is no "gaping" niche. There is a small, but vocal, group of people that think Linux is the answer to everything. It isn't for the vast majority.

You misunderstood me. The niche is an alternative to OS X other than Windows, and one possible approach to filling it would be starting from Linux and making it more user-friendly, call it more OS X like if you will.

Chrome is not a serious attempt at an alternative since it is too internet-centric to be of widespread personal computer relevance in the near future imho.
 
More in line with i3 than i5. I can't see Apple putting an iMac inside there, but then I could be wrong and I hope i am because that would be one rocking server.:D

Except the Mini still uses mobile chips - and the mobile quad-cores are i5-and-up-only. Unless they swap in desktop chips. Which is possible, they do have low-power quad-core i5 desktop chips now, whereas the low-power Core 2 quad-cores were either insanely expensive mobile chips, or mildly expensive desktop chips. The low-power i5 desktop chips aren't much more than the regular-power models. The space constraint is still an issue, though. Mobile chips are still much smaller packaging than desktop chips.

I'm hoping for quad-core (either way: QC mobile or QC low-power desktop) CPU, and dual 1 TB 2.5" hard drives. (Even better if they can throw in a MacBook Air-style SSD-on-a-stick as the boot drive in addition to dual 2.5" spinning drives. That would be a GREAT server. OS on the 64 GB SSD, two high-cap hard drives for storage. The SSD-on-a-stick would be okay as a build-to-order option, but it would rock as a standard, too.) Graphics are irrelevant to my use, the onboard Core i5 graphics are just fine for a server.

For the consumer model, I could see them foregoing both the SSD-on-a-stick and quad-core in trade for a dedicated GPU, though. (With quad-core as a build-to-order option, and the only SSD being as a 2.5" replacement for the spinning hard drive - as a build-to-order, of course. (The space used by the SSD-on-a-stick would be used by the discrete GPU.)
 
It's dead. MBA 11.6 for the win.

The way I see it, the 13" MacBook Air is likely the successor to the 13" MacBook - and the 11" Air is the new ultra-mobile. Especially once updated with Thunderbolt. Then they have the high-speed port to replace FireWire (that hasn't been on the low-end MacBook for awhile anyway,) and even Gigabit Ethernet.

I mean, compared to the current MacBook, the only thing you're giving up is an optical drive (which Apple is deprecating anyway) and a Gigabit Ethernet port (which Apple has been deprecating for a decade as well.) You GAIN resolution, and you gain an SD card slot. You're also giving up maximum storage capacity, but I could see Apple offering a 512 GB SSD in the next revision, making the top-end choice equal. The Air would cost more at the same feature-set, largely because of SSD cost, though. But for the pure-value market, they still have the 11" Air, at the same cost as the 13" MacBook now.
 
Tsunami and earthquake damage in Japan may've constrained parts supplies that are now leading to constrained delivery of assembled computers.
 
It'd be weird but interesting if an AirPort Extreme gained a Thunderbolt port... if only there were thunderbolt peripherals out there....

OH GAWD, I would DUMP the ole Ethernet Cable if it DID!!!
 
You know, I wish Apple would produce a consumer desktop headless Macintosh, because the design of the iMac sacrifices graphical performance for the sake of form factor. I'd love to have a mac which did not compromise on graphical power and had a fast DVD drive.

Apple will never do this of course since they have the iMac range.
 
I'm wondering what these requirements actually mean ....

To upgrade to Lion Server:

Step 2:
Get the latest version of Snow Leopard Server.
You’ll need Snow Leopard Server v10.6.6 or later to purchase Lion and Lion Server from the Mac App Store. If you have Snow Leopard Server, click the Apple icon and choose Software Update to install the latest version.
 
Last edited:
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.