Thank you for your opinion.Your mapping some grand vision onto was is more likely just "really poor design that isn't thought out".
Thank you for your opinion.Your mapping some grand vision onto was is more likely just "really poor design that isn't thought out".
No hate mongering here, but I'd like to see apps improved or refined.
The fact that eventually the complaints fade away doesn't mean that things are now better. I'm rather new with this ecosystem, but I still read comments about Photos has never regained functionalities which were lost at a certain point, etc.
sure, with apple. but not here, with each other.People should be absolutely vociferous about things they don't like, particularly with Apple.
right, don't dare allow anyone to have a point-of-view different from your own 🙄Contacts app is a total disaster. Don't listen to those human bots praising Apple. Apple can piss on them and they will tell you it is raining. Or they are simply paid for saying this. Apple destroyed the Contacts app, I'm in similar situation as you are.
The interface under Tahoe really sucks big time. I'm devastated.
I feel your pain.
Contacts under Tahoe tries to display a background image in the contact detail area. This leads to bad legibility and it's wasting a lot of display space.
The tiny notes field -- the huge amount of empty space on both the name list (the pointer shows that it's supposed to be resizable but it's not), and the huge wasted space for displaying an empty bubble for anyone you don't have a photo of (90% of my contacts) instead of any useful information.
A quick 30-second look at the app reveals the following…
I agree that contacts is almost useless now.
You can't even 2 finger scroll on the Magic Trackpad unless the cursor is on the area where the text area is.
I can't believe anyone would find the new look any bit of an improvement (see attachment).
In the same way, it's ridiculous how they are adding all this padding to the entire UI, which just nukes effective usable screen space.
… it still beggars belief that the Contacts app hasn't been even tested.
I must agree with the OP.
It is still usable in Tahoe, but honestly also visually chaotic…
People should be absolutely vociferous about things they don't like, particularly with Apple.
One annoyance is that the default view of the main pane is white text on dark background, even if the System is in Light Mode.
Contacts app is a total disaster.
"Hi, staff. I'm sure you've been hearing feedback about the Contacts app on Mac in Tahoe – seemingly the latest adopter of an interface designed for iOS. I'll attempt to criticize constructively with two points. One: the very first version of Contacts on Mac OS X inspired my admiration by virtue of being useful and tidy, but aesthetically unopinionated enough that I imagined potentially every user would like it. Two: in this version, a window typically must exceed 460 points vertically to show even two lines of contact info. In edit mode, and it shows up to 16 – that is, edit mode is now up to eight times more useful for viewing contact info than the default mode. Thanks for listening and considering, as always."
and of course, if you're running the OS betas. use the Feedback Assistant app. i've actually gotten some responses using it 👍Thank you to everyone for coming together in what is, deeper down, a spirit of appreciation for the traditional quality of software that we think Apple in particular stands for.
I've just submitted the following as feedback:
If you believe we should help Apple and each other by sharing our opinions, and haven't already done so, please join me in submitting feedback. There's no question in my mind that the staff are doing plenty of hard work there, and specific feedback is the most useful feedback. So please be polite and be precise.
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Feedback - Contacts
Apple wants to hear from you. Send us your comments and feedback about Contacts.www.apple.com
Did I like the previous way messages was set up? Yes. Do I find I can still use contacts well? Yes. The changes are cosmetic basically... Did the world end? Nope. We found out how wanted it to work and we learned the new way. If you intend to stay in the ecosystem you too will come to accept the new way forward. But all the hate and dislike comments will wither away...
If you make extensive use of the notes area, as I have for decades (long preceding my current Macbook), having the useless margins forces way more scrolling than I should need to do. I can't find any way to make the second column narrower to at least give the actual contact column more width.The OS including contacts WAS tested through all the betas. I was one of them. Did I like the previous way messages was set up? Yes. Do I find I can still use contacts well? Yes. The changes are cosmetic basically and trust me, the Mac world went crazy when the settings app was changed. Did the world end? Nope. We found out how wanted it to work and we learned the new way. If you intend to stay in the ecosystem you too will come to accept the new way forward. But all the hate and dislike comments will wither away and life will go forward and those of us fully vested in the ecosystem will be happy when the hate mongering goes away so we can get back to actual informative posts.
The screen also flickers on the M3 MacBook Air when you move the cursor across the contact.I must agree with the OP. Contacts under Tahoe is HOPELESS and a disgrace.
1. On my Mac Mini M2 with Tahoe and Apple Cinema Display 20 inch displays, the screen flickers in Contacts. It never used to - and it only happens in CONTACTS.
2. The SEARCH box is located on the top right, which is the opposite of where you want it, because you scroll on the left, and then have to move the cursor to the far right to enter some text. Designed by an idiot.
3. The TEXT SIZE is TOO SMALL, and there is no way to make it bigger just for Contacts, or within Contacts, or within System settings (App specific)
4. The GREY background screen is HIDEOUS, and it makes the text difficult to read. Why not allow users to have a clean white background, like previous versions? So bad.
5. Then there is that HUGE space for an image, when you have no image for the person ... so why take up half the screen with a giant circle of an empty head, when it is just an empty head.
6. DISPLAY OF PHONE NUMBERS:
Say you have a COMPANY card, and then enter different phone numbers for different people at the company as say:
0401 111 222 -Dave Black
0402 333 444 - Sam
Under Tahoe, Contacts removes the spaces between the number and the name, and it reads as:
0401111222DaveBlack
Just hopeless. Designed by an idiot.
7. The tiny Notes field.
Hope Apple could release such crap beggars belief.
I did just find that setting "reduce transparency" in system settings at least makes the contacts readable.Sorry, guys. If you haven't noticed the interface change of Contacts, you clearly don't use Contacts. In both sides, actually: the contact listing and contact data. After 2 days of Sequoia, I can't keep using it. I know, silly, but Contacts is a tool I use almost 24/7 while working since the dinosaur age. Went back to Sequoia today. What a relief.
If they were going for consistency with iOS, why didn't they add back the alphabetical tabs? At least those remained in iOS and iPadOS.I think the changes bring the macOS version of Contacts more into line with what Apple have moved to on iOS, so the consistency is one benefit of the new UI.
But is anyone else seeing a jagged/pixellated Contacts icon (specifically the white 'person' icon) when using Command + Tab to bring up the app switcher?
Just ran into this. Had someone with a complicated last name. Not being able to copy the contact name out of the contact app is uhhhhh...a choice. I guess.- You can no longer copy the user's name, and good luck trying to copy any of the other info such as email. It doesn't work. This has removed any sense of actual usefulness.
You can no longer copy the user's name, and good luck trying to copy any of the other info such as email. It doesn't work. This has removed any sense of actual usefulness.
I'm not a fan of the new Contacts app either, but I'm not having any issues with copying contact info.Just ran into this. Had someone with a complicated last name. Not being able to copy the contact name out of the contact app is uhhhhh...a choice. I guess.
Thank you for this information on copying the name. This does help somewhat but there's still a problem. Are you able to copy company information?To copy the name, select the contact in the left pane and hit Command-C. (No need to highlight or select the name on the card.)
To copy their number, email, address, etc., just right-click on those and copy. (No need to left-click to highlight or select these either.)
Well said. I am in so much pain over this. (I have 15,000+ contacts)The macOS Contacts app has not went through the most basic of QC. The fact Apple, a trillion-dollar company, which once prided itself in beautiful UI/UX, went ahead and released this POS to the public, is appalling, and quite honestly insulting.
A quick 30-second look at the app reveals the following:
- Using the top Menu such as going to "Help" results in the contacts background flickering all over the place
- You can no longer copy the user's name, and good luck trying to copy any of the other info such as email. It doesn't work. This has removed any sense of actual usefulness.
- When sharing the "Me" contact (the one I share most often), if you click "Share Contact" and then click away, will force-open Apple Maps for no apparent reason
- Visually it's a mess. 1/3 of the screen is taken up by the contact initials or photo, which are then replicated directly below in a small version called "Contact Photo & Poster".
Apple's ability to take something useful, completely break it, and put it forward to the public as an exciting new release, is quite impressive.
I want a compact, no frills UX option.
I mighty have to go back to Fantastical/CardHop...
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