Convincing Parents

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by Konstantino, Mar 18, 2006.

  1. Konstantino macrumors newbie


    Mar 18, 2006
    Ontario, Canada
    Hey, I'm new here.
    I'm not sure if this is the right forum for it, but...

    I need some help. I'm typically a PC user, one who really wants an iMac. I try them out all the time I want one more and more. I've talked to my parents about it, but 1500 dollars just isn't the kind of money you go shooting out. They say it'll play out in time, but I feel like their time is going no where. I'd like to find a way to convince them that getting an iMac is more of an investmen rather than just getting another computer which will be replaced in the next year.

    I've already told them how great it is, I talk about it almost all the time, and I think about it more then once a day. But I need a way for my parents to start applying some action since my money doesn't grow as fast as I'd like it. I asked them if I could get a job, but they'd rather have me being independent and creative rather than get a time-consuming and labouring job. And I doubt a job would help me get there any faster. Some help? Thanks.
  2. calebjohnston macrumors 68000


    Jan 24, 2006
    How old are you? If you're young, then maybe you shouldn't get a 1500 dollar computer now. See what they say about a refurb iBook. 800 dollars - half price.

    Kids on here that have MBP's and etc. when they are 15 are not normal, they are spoiled and have serious repercussions coming to them in the following years.

    I would say try for an iBook - seeing as it's your first mac anyway.
  3. puckhead193 macrumors G3


    May 25, 2004
    Try for a mac mini, if your not going to do a lot of stuff that involve graphics...
  4. calebjohnston macrumors 68000


    Jan 24, 2006
    Yeah, he's right. A mini would be good too - cheaper even. You can then use your monitor and mouse (and keyboard I guess) and you're good to go.
  5. Konstantino thread starter macrumors newbie


    Mar 18, 2006
    Ontario, Canada
    Thanks for the responses

    I'm 17, and I am aware of the other options. Right now, I'm not looking so much for a portable (especially one with a 15" screen), and I need something to replace my PC.

    I work with HTML and PHP, and I do a lot of editing in Photoshop CS 2. I even purchased a tablet to help me have more control over my work in photoshop. But my PC really lags. I do the clean-up, optimization, anti-viral and ad/spyware scans every once and a while. I even have this thing that helps me optimize my ram, but my PC is just too slow. I need something that helps me fly by, and that I can come home to every day after school and not be looking at a 13" thick beige monitor. The iMac's interface is also designed well for me with the ports, since I use USB a lot, my USB extender is short and won't reach, and the fact that I have at least 5 peripherals that I switch between constantly.
  6. calebjohnston macrumors 68000


    Jan 24, 2006
    If you're really set on an iMac, I'd recommend the ppc g5 refurb. That will cut your costs down a little.

    I really don't know how to convince them other than price.

    Explain that it's something you'll have to live with if it sucks, and that they are viruses/malware free and retain their value for when it comes time to sell it.
  7. celebrian23 macrumors 65816


    Mar 12, 2006
    Under the sun
    I advise you to take your parents to the apple store. I've been trying to convince my dad for weeks, but our visit to the apple store totally convinced him that it would be a great notebook (the macbook pro). He even said he'd like to get a mac mini possibly someday. I suggest you go the power processor way, and get the refurb imac G5. But maybe you should wait- I'm 17 too, and I won't be seeing my computer until June. I think the most important thing is to explain to them why you want it, and then you should contribute a lot of the funds towards it.
  8. dejo Moderator


    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2004
    The Centennial State
    What about saving up on your own and buying one yourself? Is that a possibility?
  9. technicolor macrumors 68000


    Dec 21, 2005
    Are you going to college?

    It is the spring semester, perhaps you can get one as a graduation gift.
  10. p0intblank macrumors 68030

    Sep 20, 2005
    New Jersey
    The Mac mini is perfect for what you are looking to do, whether it's the Solo or Duo model. The Duo model is obviously the one I recommend. Its specs are about the same as the iMac's, minus the graphics card. Integrated graphics will be just fine for what you want to do also. Do you plan on playing any 3D games?
  11. miniConvert macrumors 68040


    Mar 4, 2006
    Kent, UK - the 'Garden of England'.
    So they want you to be independent by depending on them for your income and purchases?

    I've had a job since I was 16, and I suspect a good few here will have had a job since before then. It's a part of life. You'll appreciate that iMac a lot more when you've had to work and save hard for it.

    Good luck, though, I'm sure they'll cave eventually.
  12. bursty macrumors 65816


    Jan 31, 2004
    Holy extreme generalization batman! :eek:

  13. Shamus macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2006
    Yeah, I did that (payed for most of it), and bought a second-hand iBook. :) But it still took some convincing :p.
  14. ingenious macrumors 68000


    Jan 13, 2004
    Washington, D.C.
    Yeah, I saved for two years to buy my iMac. Of course, I had (have) a job. Macs are sure worth it.
  15. Glenn Wolsey macrumors 65816

    Glenn Wolsey

    Nov 24, 2005
    New Zealand
    I resent that statement. I have worked immensely hard for my technology without ANY assistance from parents, relatives, ect.

    I have 2 jobs and work hard for everything I purchase, and I'm sure there are others here who are the same.
  16. ingenious macrumors 68000


    Jan 13, 2004
    Washington, D.C.
    Wow... two :eek: jobs! How do you have time to go to school or anything else?

    And yes, to back up your statement, my iMac was purchased completely without help from my parents or anyone else. It was my goal for this computer.

    edit: spacing.
    edit 2: If you're interested, my PowerBook is actually owned by my school. The arrangement is best described as permanent (until I graduate) and free lease.
  17. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level

    Haha wow, if only my parents were like that back in the day. My dad made me do farm work when I was young (13-17) in the summer just to teach me what real work was. I feel sad for those who don't have a taste of hard work and then feel the world owes them everything. Sorry just thought that was ironic.
  18. Chuckles macrumors member


    Jan 25, 2006
    I feel your pain, man. I'm 15 and work full-time during the summer (8 freaking bucks an hour! :eek: ). I had a very large argument with my parents that lasted over 6 months. It was over control of my bank account. I, thinking that I was in charge of my money, put pay check after pay check (we're talking 500 dollar checks) in my savings account. I was doing it to save up for college, and to buy a Mac to replace my current PC. At the end of the summer, I was informed that what goes in stays in. My parents claimed that I said right out before I started working something along the lines of, "What I put in the bank stays in the bank. Hold me to my word." I don't remember saying that. If I did say it, I think I would remember. After over 6 months of arguing, my Dad finally gave up. I'm allowed to do whatever I want with my money now. I even have a debit card. I haven't bought a Mac yet because I've decided to wait another summer. My parents won't be able to pay for a lot of my college, so I need to have as much saved up as I can. I'll have enough extra to purchase a Mac by Fall.

    You're 17. You have the right to get a job. Use it.
  19. PuNkErX macrumors member

    Nov 16, 2004
    haha, i've been working since i was around 9.

    Up until I was 16 I just worked on the farm, then after that I worked on the farm and at a local restaurant, just for gas money. But after all of that it makes me appreciate things more.

    The only way I could convince my parents to buy something like a computer was to say it's for school or else I had to buy it.

    and like they said before, take them to an apple store sometime, let them see for themselves. Are they very computer litterate? or do they know nothing? If they know nothing about them, then it'll be extremely hard to convince them to spend a bit for another computer.

    good luck
  20. cjc343 macrumors 6502

    Jan 6, 2004
    In the apple store, in front of a G5.
    If you are getting it for Photoshop, do not get an intel mac. CS 2 is not universal, and will run slower than it does on your PC.
  21. annk Administrator


    Staff Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Somewhere over the rainbow
    My thoughts EXACTLY :eek:
  22. wasimyaqoob macrumors 6502a

    Dec 23, 2005
    London, England.
    I was 15 when i had an iBook, got a PowerBook when i was 16, and now a MBP at 17. God damm im spoilt!
  23. sushi Moderator emeritus


    Jul 19, 2002
    That's fantastic!

    Nothing like working for what you want. It makes you appreciate what you have so much more.
  24. Konstantino thread starter macrumors newbie


    Mar 18, 2006
    Ontario, Canada

    A lot of replies, more than I though. Thanks guys.

    Well, I do actually perfer buying the computer myself. I've never had my own NEW computer before, they were always hand-downs from my Dad. He's a human resource manager and leads a lot of projects, so he works with computers almost daily - but only PCs.

    What I mean by being independent is that they want me to use my creative skills to get money, but I know that that's no way to make 1500 dollars quickly. I'm not in a major hurry to get the iMac, and I am aware that a lot of applications aren't universal binarys yet.

    But I'm still set for getting the core duo because I'm really hooked at that speed. I tried one out yesterday - they're faster than the PowerPC models that I used to try out.

    I would take them to the Apple Store, but the closest one is about an hour away from here. My Dad isn't someone who likes to drive more than an hour just to go to one place. (Especially if he doesn't care about it). But my grandparents live around the Apple Store, so next time we visit them I could ask if we could stop by.

    The Mac Mini doesn't interest me. I actually considered that first, about 4 months ago when I started looking into Macs. But the truth is, it doesn't have enough USB ports, and I don't have a USB keyboard. Even with the updated 4 ports, I have way too many peripherals to be switching plugs all the time.

    Thanks again guys.
  25. gallagb macrumors 6502


    Apr 28, 2004

    don't get the intel if you wanna use CS2-

    when in doubt: go to the product page and read what requirements....etc

    a really cool brand new spanking machine is awesome
    only if it does what you want ;)

    (remembers the day he bought a machine w/o an ethernet card in it and tried to plug it into the network....realizing yet again that phone ports and ethernet ports are not the same)

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