Cook's Thoughts On iPad Pro as a Laptop

Discussion in 'iPad' started by spiderman0616, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. spiderman0616 macrumors 68040


    Aug 1, 2010
    This is from the Buzzfeed article today, which can be found here:

    The paragraph that struck me was this one:

    Two last questions as we turn the corner onto Fifth Avenue: The first — how close are we to a time when people are going to stop buying home computers and laptops and use only tablets? Will they give up their Macs for the iPad Pro? “I think that some people will never buy a computer,” Cook says. “Because I think now we’re at the point where the iPad does what some people want to do with their PCs.” Cook is quick to point out, however, that this doesn’t foreshadow the end of the Mac. “I think there are other people — like myself — that will continue to buy a Mac and that it will continue to be a part of the digital solution for us,” he adds. “I see the Mac being a key part of Apple for the long term and I see growth in the Mac for the long term.”

    This is the iPad Pro vs. Macbook discussion WITHOUT all the marketing spin. It makes a lot more sense and is a lot more logical. People are interpretting his comment about the iPad Pro being the "future of personal computing" in a lot of different ways, but I think they're largely interpretting in a way he didn't mean. I also happen to think he should have chosen his words a little more carefully, because it's causing a lot of arguing and worry among many users.

    In the end though, what he said in this interview made me feel a lot better about that Macbook Pro I just bought.
  2. Dave245 macrumors 604


    Sep 15, 2013
    I don't see the iPad Pro replacing a laptop or PC for heavy users, it all depends on usage. I own a Mac and a iPad Air 2, I plan on upgrading to a iPad Pro when it comes out, I'm a writer and all round creative person, so yea I think the iPad Pro will replace my laptop for certain tasks, but there will also be times when I want to use a laptop. Now instead of buying a new Mac I will be buying the iPad Pro and just keeping my 2011 MacBook Pro for when I want to use it, does that mean I will use it less? Maybe but in my opinion that may be a good thing.

    I think Cook is right, I also think that the Mac and iPad complement each other, not everyone wants to replace their laptop and tablet in one device (like with the surface)
  3. ZBoater macrumors G3


    Jul 2, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    As long as Apple continues to willfully ignore the immense ecosystem of other apps and gadgets our there in favor of their "Apple only" attitude, the iPad will never replace a laptop. Ever. Nor do I think it should.
  4. Krevnik macrumors 68040


    Sep 8, 2003
    Jobs made similar comments years ago with his truck analogy:

    Steve Jobs on the Post PC era - YouTube

    And honestly, I think that is totally correct. You still need workflows that laptops and desktops provide, and it will be hard to really get away from that unless you manage to replace the keyboard with something else (good luck, and let me know if you think you've nailed it, I may want to invest). But there will be people who only need a laptop (something that is already evident today), despite still being much slower than the workhorses I use day to day at my work. There will be people who can get by with just a tablet at home.
  5. ValO, Sep 15, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2015

    ValO macrumors 68000

    Sep 16, 2012

    No it won' t be the end of the mac. I already knew that.

    But the A9X will be the beginning of the end of the x-86 Mac and x-86 osx.(they will have arm based mac os though, not ios)

    1. Macbook 12 inch will be arm based in 2 Years. perhaps they will also launch a 14/15 inch macbook in the same form factor as the 12 inch.
    2. There will be versions of the macbook pro and imac that have arm socs. Perhaps for the pro' s there will also be x-86 macbooks and imacs.
    3. Mac Pro will probably stay x-86, for the pro users that require more power and a lot of xenon cores with pro graphic cards.

    And this will happen, it is just a matter of time. No way apple will allow intel to delay new macs, like skylake now. And they would not have to buy cpu' s from them, so they can improve margins.
  6. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    It seems obvious to me that the iPad and iPad Pro could be the computer for a new generation that didn't grow up with the laptop and desktop. Or for people that don't need all the pro features. I use a Windows 7 laptop every day at work. The last thing I want to do when I'm not working is use Microsoft Office on my iPad.
  7. spiderman0616 thread starter macrumors 68040


    Aug 1, 2010
    I think this has more to do with "the future of personal computing" than the iPad Pro specifically. There is no doubt in my mind that all Macs will eventually have A processors in them sometime in the next few years and will more closely follow the Macbook form factor. The Macbook Pro is already amazingly thin (and light as far as laptops go), but it will get thinner and lighter and cooler. Haptics and further advancements in keyboards will also continue to be improvements.

    But people that are taking his comments about the future of personal computing as meaning "You should buy this instead of a Mac going forward, because Mac is done"--that's clearly not what he meant at all.
  8. rowspaxe macrumors 68000


    Jan 29, 2010
    Todays laptop technology seems like a very complicated solution for the needs of most users. I could see ios based laptops becoming popular due to their simplicity and app level integration with tasks like social media and university specific apps, etc.

    There will have to be some tipping point app or functionality that reinforces this--but its not that hard to imagine that in 5-10 years ios might be the dominant new laptop platform. Laptops are now so long lived it could be a be a very subtle revolution
  9. soupcan macrumors 6502a


    Nov 21, 2014
    The A9X is the beginning of the end of Intel-powered Macs, not the end of x86 OS X and x86 Macs. Apple will produce their own x86 chips in the near future, and the current A-series is a perfect testing ground for that. Seriously, the x86 license can be bought (AMD's doing it too) and then modified to fit a company's needs. Apple is in a great position to ditch Intel in about 2 years and start making their own chips for Macs.

    The public's and reviewers response from the A-series chips, especially the A7, have been immensely positive, with the A8X being the stand-out chip. All of this is making Apple positive about producing their own chips that aren't ARM based. And as you said, Apple suddenly doesn't have to delay products anymore because Intel is behind schedule.
  10. VesselA macrumors regular

    Jul 26, 2015
    you shouldn't worry about others opinions so much, even Tim Cooks, if you need the macbook pro it was right to get it.

    I envisage the pro running a version of OSX in the next few years to make it truly a pro type machine, as OSX is gradually adopting an iOS feel with things like launchpad.

    macbook pros will be around as long as the iPad is incapable of running all the software they can and have the flexibility with ports and so on. I can see maybe in 10 years an iPad pro replacing the macbook if it integrates an SD card slot and has a few thunderbolt 3 / USB C ports and is running a sophisticated OS like Yosemite along with the typing touch cover in a similar set up to the surface pro
  11. M5RahuL macrumors 68030


    Aug 1, 2009
  12. Mivo macrumors regular


    Jan 23, 2015
    Of course Apple want their customers to buy their phones, tablets, laptops, and desktops. Their interest in putting out a genuine hybrid system can't be developed, because if they released one, it would cut into their overall revenue -- and I don't believe that at this time it would be off-set by the influx of new customers. Until that changes, we won't get an OSX version of the Surface Pro.

    Microsoft is in a better position to bring us a genuine hybrid system as they don't have to consider the larger hardware picture. So far, they failed or deliver a hybrid that is an excellent tablet and also an excellent laptop (the SP3 is neither), but they are getting closer. I'm curious what the SP4 will look like, and it will determine not only if I get an iPad Pro, but also if I buy a new MacBook Pro. That, perhaps, is the risk Apple takes by not offering a real hybrid device when (or if) the demand for such devices increases.
  13. Billy95Tech Suspended

    Apr 18, 2014
    Yeah I think tablets are the future Apple proves that with the IPad Pro. :)
  14. kupkakez macrumors 68000


    Apr 4, 2011
    For me, iPad's are MY computer. I really do not "need" a Macbook or iMac any longer.
  15. sickducker macrumors member

    Sep 1, 2014
    I know housewives who solely use iPads and the iPad pro is like the ultimate Facebook machine. Compared to a laptop it is light, pretty, affordable and it has all the popular tablet apps. It can not do everything, but It can do a lot in a really elegant way.
  16. BenTrovato macrumors 68030


    Jun 29, 2012
    There are a LOT of people who's computing needs are completely satisfied by an iPad. I know people who only use their phone and no computer. There are also a lot of us that need a laptop/computer to do the work we need to do. There is simply more power at your fingertips. Not everyone needs that power, but for those who do, the iPad/tablet isn't replacing the laptop until how we work is modified. I'm open to the change, but the workflow for it, hasn't been presented yet.
  17. racer1441 macrumors 68000

    Jul 3, 2009
    I play with my macbook for fun. I run organizations and business from my ipad. Have done so for about two years. If my macbook crapped the bed tomorrow, i wouldn't need to replace it.
  18. smooth macrumors 6502


    Nov 12, 2007
    I can see the PC coming full circle. When they were new, there was usually just 1 per household. Families shared them. Then they got cheaper and laptops got smaller so now it's not uncommon for each member to have their own. For the average user, iPads (or tablets in general) usually meet everyday needs - surfing, streaming, texting, emailing, etc. I can see household members having their own tablet, and having just 1 desktop or laptop for more detailed tasks - microsoft apps/iwork apps, videos, gaming etc.

    My wife and I each have our own MBP, which are pretty new so we'll have them for a while. I am pretty confident that when the time comes to update, they'll be replaced with just 1 laptop or may go the iMac route
  19. placidity44 macrumors 6502


    May 20, 2015
    I think for some people who just want to consume content and don't have a need it is probably better for them. I for one hadn't used my Air 2 much at all so I sold it for an Apple Watch. I use my 15" rMBP at home watching tv and when i am out and about or in bed I use the 6 Plus and watch for notifications. Simplified things quite a bit and saved me some space.
  20. Traverse macrumors 604


    Mar 11, 2013
    If true, this gives me a glimmer of hope. I don't want an ARM based Mac no matter how powerful because I need to run Windows from time to time. While probably less important today than in the past, the ability to run Windows has been a justification and type of assurance that a Mac could fit in anywhere.

    No matter how good Apple make Photos or Pages (sarcasm), some people will still need non-OS X applications.
  21. MartinAppleGuy macrumors 68020


    Sep 27, 2013
  22. sjleworthy macrumors 65816


    Dec 5, 2008
    Penarth, Wales, UK
    personally, my ipad does everything my laptop did for me, and with the advent of the Pro life gets even better. it runs my personal and social life with ease, whilst allowing me to happily run my house and business accounts and expenses with it. what do i need a laptop for now? for me the ipad has replaced the laptop. it's long gone.

    work on the other hand is a completely different beast :)
  23. ZBoater macrumors G3


    Jul 2, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    Meh. I still use Quicken. I still need to update the firmware on my gadgets, like my Garmin GPS, my Escort Radar detector, and my SCT Livewire tuner. I still need a laptop, and I actually still need Windows (although Parallels helps me with that). I can't live iPad only, not while I have these needs.

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