I finally ordered my bag because of macrumors. I was looking for something just like this for the last two months. I wanted something that a man and women could carry. So I ordered the black alligator messenger bag. I just want everyone to know I kept hearing about there customer service. But they have actually been EXCELLENT to me. They email me back immediately because I had so many question. Now I'm just waiting for the bag, I know it says 2-3 weeks so I will have to patiently wait. I'm excited and hope that it turns out like I want it. Thank you macrumors for your help.