Copy From Camera Roll

Discussion in 'iOS 8' started by rugmankc, Nov 11, 2014.

  1. rugmankc macrumors 68000

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    I took 3 pics today. They went to iPhoto and Dropbox when I connected to iMac. I then copied to my Pictures on iMac and iCloud and the proper folder in iPhoto. A 2014 Landscape folder. I set my iPhoto folder structure up for my pics on my iMac long before I got the Plus. Most of my syncing I do manually as I am just learning iPhone and iTunes.

    I wanted to get the 3 new pics into my 2014 Landscape folder on iPhone and didn't want to resync entire 2014 folder from iTunes. So, I thought I would copy from Camera Roll to the 2014 folder. I used Share and the Add To methods. Neither worked. With Share I never got a paste option when within the 2014 folder and with the Add To my folders were all greyed out. I researched this and sure I used correct method.



    Questions:

    1. Is this an issue for some users on 8.1? Nothing I read says it won't work the way I did it. And it worked that way for my son on his 6. Although, he is a state away and had to leave and couldn't help further.


    2. I got the free trial of TunesGo by WonderShare and no issue. I have bought their apps before. But, not ready to lay down 39.00 when this feature should work on iPhone as is. Although, I can see for someone who wants more control it has advantages over auto syncs. Do you guys use this or a similar "free" product. As, I would like to use the iPhone features for this.


    I have a couple other issues with iTunes on individually syncing songs. But, will wait till son is in at Holidays.


    Thanks

    Ken


    BTW, this was my first iPhone outdoor photos on a cloudy day. Very true colors and much better than my S4--:)
     
  2. mpfuchs macrumors regular

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    iPhoto folders should already sync back to your iPhone, as long as you have them selected in iTunes, within your sync options.

    All those folders and stock folders on your iPhone will be greyed out, as far as adding stuff to them.
    You can create another folder (just clock the plus symbol) and then add photos to that, but not synced folders.

    Hope this helps.

    Why don't you use photostream to back up your pictures to iPhoto on the Mac?
    You wouldn't have to plug your phone in to do that, all the photos will be full resolution, and you can just delete pics you don't need from you phone (after they've been uploaded to iPhoto) and save space on your iPhone.
     
  3. Zwhaler macrumors 604

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    Image Capture for importing select photos and video works.
     
  4. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks Guys,

    My pics do go to iPhoto thru Photo Stream. I don't use iCloud beta. I set up my folder structure, as I mentioned, years ago on iMac. And, for now manually move pics to iCloud.

    Under Options in iTunes I have "Manually Merge Music and Videos" and "Sync Only Checked Songs and Videos".

    Not ready to go Totally auto yet--Scared--lol

    With those settings and when I try to sync music from iTunes to iPhone I don't get option to sync just selected songs. It gives me warning it is going to sync whole library. Individual options are greyed out. Think I posted that somewhere else in a thread with screenshots.

    Space is no issue and I only do 2-12 pics at a time 2 or 3 times year. So, I am ok this way. Just don't understand after seeing "how to" videos, why I can't just copy from Camera Roll to a folder already there. :(

    I can on the iTunes sync page select to sync entire 2014 folder from iTunes (iPhoto) to iPhone. That would do same thing, as I assume it will erase all within 2014 folder and replace with my iPhoto 2014 folder.

    Lots to learn and sometimes new terminology for me.

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    You guys use a separate third party Camera App like ProCamera8 as stock camera has little options, no settings section anywhere I see.
     
  5. mpfuchs, Nov 13, 2014
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    Foud your screen shots.
    Yes, first you have to clock the "sync music" button, then the other options won't be greyed out anymore.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8vtksh6l814ns4/Screenshot 2014-11-05 16.02.19.png?dl=0

    They use the select playlist, artist... ect. button to click whatever you want.
    For example, you could create a playlist in iTunes that's called iPhone, and add all songs to this playlist, that you also want on your phone.
    Then just select that one playlist when syncing, and you're all set.

    As far as the other screenshot goes,
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/le7w2xaeaui6igy/Screenshot 2014-11-05 16.02.57.png?dl=0
    yes, it'll get red of all the existing stuff, so make sure you got all the photos backed up.

    Not my picture, but here is what it looks like after you select to sync:
    [​IMG]
    You could even to genres and just sync your soft jazz genre.
    Of course you'd have to go in, and make sure all the songs you consider soft jazz would actuall be tagged that.

    It's one of those things, you'll have to bite the bullet once, and it'll work from here on out. Just make sure you got everything backed up.
    You could even do a full backup of the phone just to be save...

    I used this method for a long time, until I finally switched to iTunes Match, and I'm really loving how easy it is now. Of course there is a cost associated with that...

    As far as you photo question goes, folders that are greyed out, are system folders or synced folders from iPhoto.
    You won't be able to add pics to those, unless you're in iPhoto and then sync back to it.

    Here you can do the same thing.
    Create a folder in iPhoto, call it iPhone, put all the pics in there that you want on the phone, and then sync. When you add pics in iPhoto, resync and you'll have all the photos in there.

    And yes, you are right, when you select the entire 2014 folder, it'll do the same thing. It'll sync all the photos in that folder at that time.

    Check out this link, it might help as well:
    http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/12/ios-101-itunes-sync-update-device
     
  6. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Thanks mp,

    Will answer one item at a time.

    First, I always have the boxes greyed out as in first screenshot. Get the second screenshot warning all the time. Never see the boxes available to check. Are you saying this is the way it is bc I have never done a full sync. And after that first full sync I will see the individual boxes. If so, not sure I want to do that as my iPhone music structure is exactly how I want it.

    Under stand better after reading the greyed out folders on phone. Where Camera Roll is were the songs are and putting them in folders is just like pointing to them. The WonderShare TunesGo helps there with more management and ability to copy things out of Camera Roll. But, maybe can find a free app as I may not use enough to buy for 40.00. Not sure yet.

    My son uses Match will talk to him on that next month when they visit.

    I bookmarked your Sync link and will review. Been at Hospital most of today and didn't have too much time.

    I have set things up in iPhoto and am getting pretty familiar with it.

    If I screw up Music Library on iPhone and do a full iPhone restore all that will go back as it was, same folder structure etc--correct--?

    But, again I never get the screen you show with ability to check Selected playlists, artists, albums and genres. Or, videos etc. if so it would seem pretty straight forward. :)
     
  7. mpfuchs macrumors regular

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    Yes, if you click "remove and sync" on the second screen shot, you'll get to the boxes where you can check artists, album, genre,...

    The background here is, that one phone can only be synced to one iTunes library at a time. So the best thing to to, would be to sync the phone right when you get it. But we're already past that point, right? ;)
    You would also get this message, when you hook up to your MacBook Air for the first time, after using the sync from your iMac, as an example.
    I guess they did that, that you can't go to a friend place, hook up to his Mac and transfer all his songs to your phone, in addition to your own songs.

    Not sure how you add songs to your iPhone Music app right now, but the app itself won't change. So you'll still have the tabs in the bottom for Songs, Playlists, Artists, Genres,... whatever you put in there.
    Since you use the same songs from iTunes, there should also be all the same information in the song-file metadata. Wich means a song that show under X artist now, will still be under X artist later. And so on.

    Do you have your whole library from iTunes on your phone now?
    If you chose to switch to iTunes Match, it would basically mirror your whole library giving you access to all songs, to download to you phone or just to stream.

    As far as the back-up and restore of the whole phone goes, I've never done one myself, since I like to setup my phones as new phones, when I get them.
    But maybe someone else here could chime in on that?
     
  8. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Appreciate the help mp,

    Yes, I have everything set on iPhone.

    I will check out Match, if my son uses it it must good--says a Dad :D

    I have been putting things into my Folders in iTunes from iphoto etc then use the Add To feature in iTunes to copy them to iPhone. Works good for me. Just not quick and efficient at it yet. Kinda like, how did I do that last time?

    I checked Sync Music then Remove and Sync and I got the Individual choices. Was afraid to do that and have all removed and maybe get them back--THANKS :)
     
  9. rugmankc, Nov 13, 2014
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    rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    OK, well I checked my iPhone after hitting Remove and Sync and got the individual choices and it did remove all non-purchased media.

    Am resyncing my Videos atm

    Will report back--

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    Maybe I won't get that again. I will see if I can sync the Music after Movies are done.

    And retain same folder structure I set up--
     
  10. rugmankc, Nov 13, 2014
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    I did lose all of my folders I added in iTunes--starting over. I don't think a restore, restores Music--

    Also, the purchased songs on iPhone now have a little down arrow inside cloud to right of song do I need to click on all of them. And why?
     
  11. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Some trial and error in syncing. Originally couldn't see all my Playlists listed under My Device in iTunes.

    Somehow I got everything back to iPhone.

    So, at square one as to why I can't sync only selected music without wiping all of iPhone library first.

    Maybe I misunderstood and that is the way it is. But, was difficult to get everything finally synched.

    May have to consider Match--
     
  12. mpfuchs macrumors regular

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    I didn't know you could have folders in iTunes...

    The little cloud symbol with the arrow down means that you own the music (since you bought it) but it's not on the phone right now.
    When you click it, it'll download it.
    That's also how iTunes Match would look like, once you first turn it on.
    All your songs would be available for download.

    Were you trying to sync Videos too, or was that an accident?
    When you look in the above screen shot, you can dis select the "include music video" button, if your talking about music videos.
    If not, go to the Movies tab up top, and you can basically do the same as music, only select what you want to sync.

    Sorry, the restore didn't work.
     
  13. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    NP

    Got it all now. Can't really explain how I stumbled trough it. The cloud symbols are gone too.

    I will check tonite and see if I no longer get that remove all warning.
     
  14. rugmankc thread starter macrumors 68000

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    No longer seeing the Warning from above screenshot links. I now have ability to sync individual Albums, Artists etc.

    Did quite go the we thought it would originally mp. But worked out for the best in the end--Thanks for help--:) :apple:
     
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    You will have all playlists that are in your iTunes, also show ion your iPhone.
    So the answer is yes, you will have two playlists, one Favorites and one Soft Jazz.
     
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    +1 I always do that all the times :apple:
     
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