Copying a friends iTunes library

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  1. maw4bc macrumors regular

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    I just got my ATV for my bday so I am a little new to everything. My question is simple (hopefully).

    I am wondering if it is easy to copy someone else's iTunes content (music, purchased movies, tv shows, music videos, etc.) or is the content solely theirs since they purchased it on their account?

    I was hoping to just go over to his house with an external HD and transfer it.

    Any help is greatly appreciated,
    Mike
     
  2. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    as long as he lets you use one of his authorizations you are set
     
  3. maw4bc thread starter macrumors regular

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    can you elaborate on that a bit? I am not familiar with that.
     
  4. roidy macrumors 6502a

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    Copying somebody else`s iTunes library would be copyright theft and illegal as your friend has purchased the right to own and view the files, not to redistribute them to other people. Just something to consider.
     
  5. waw74 macrumors 68030

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    each account can be authorized on 5 computers at a time.
    you can copy the music files to your computer, you would then need your friends itunes password in order to unlock the music. (should only have to type it once to unlock all his songs). But at anytime, they can de-authorize all computers, and you would be locked out of that music.

    Without looking at the iTunes TOS, i'm guessing this would probably be frowned upon. this is more a feature so people who have multiple computers can use their music on more than one machine.


    if this person is your roommate, they can share their music over the network, and as long as their itunes is running you can play the music.
     
  6. maw4bc thread starter macrumors regular

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    thanks for the information from you all. It has helped.
     
  7. Alrescha macrumors 68020

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    I've read the TOS and it clearly states you have the right to copy and play the music to five other computers. I didn't see where it said you had to own those computers...

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  8. maw4bc thread starter macrumors regular

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    Won't I run into a problem considering my iTunes is synced to my username/password?
     
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    You won't be able to use iTunes purchased files from your friend in your own iTunes account.
     
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    You may have any number of iTunes accounts permitting you have usernames and passwords. My friend essentially has an iTunes server of 70,000 songs. 10% are my iTunes, 20% his wife's, and the rest are his account.
     
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    http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html

    Meaning you dont use anyone else`s account. And inorder to give someone your library you would also need to give them access to your account.

    For personal use only not to give away to complete strangers.

    Copy products solely for personal use, again not to give away to your friends because then it is nolonger for your personal use.

    Come on use a bit of common sense, of course you carn`t just buy a movie or music from the iTunes store and then expect to be able to give copys away to all your friends. I`ll tell you what why don`t you give apple a phone call and tell them you want to start giving away there content and see how happy they are.
     
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    dude noncomercial use just means that you cannot use it to make money. he can give it up to 5 of his friends. im sure if he called apple and told them what he was doing they would say ok you can only do that 4 more times. they put that feature in there so you can share your music. and that is what he is doing.
     
  13. roidy macrumors 6502a

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    The point is not about noncomercial use, its about personal use. Meaning for use by the account holder only. So no he carn`t give it to 5 of his friends because then it is not for his own personal use anymore.

    "You" meaning the account holder, not the account holders friends.

    The 5 computer feature is there so you can use it on 5 of your own devices not your own computer and 4 of your friends. It clearly states in the TOS not to give anyone else access to your account, which is what you would need to do inorder to give someone else a copy of your library.
     
  14. ViciousShadow21 macrumors 68020

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    his friend could just come over type in his user name and password. that way he wouldnt have to give him his user information.
     
  15. hexonxonx macrumors 601

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    Once you logon, just authorize the computer and then you never need the username and password again, unless you want to buy things using his account.
     
  16. Boise Jim macrumors newbie

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    People, this is illegal, flat out. You can not legally share your music with other people, unless you own the copyright, which I highly doubt.

    I am a professional photographer, and the same thing goes. If someone uses an image of mine without permission, they violated the copyright and I have every right to pursue legal action.

    Sharing music is theft, period.
     
  17. roidy macrumors 6502a

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    Boise Jim your wasting your time, some people think that because they have payed for their music or movies it then gives them the right to start handing it out to anyone they want.
     
  18. ViciousShadow21 macrumors 68020

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    Then why are programs such as lime wire allowed to exist? P2P is legal by the way.
     
  19. roidy macrumors 6502a

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    Lime wire is allowed to exist because by the very nature of how P2P works its impossible to shut down. And yes P2P is legal but only if you own the rights to the files or have permision to share the files. ViciousShadow21 do they not have copyright laws in Croatia. In the UK and the US and 99% of other countries in the world it is illegal to share any copyrighted material eg Movies or Music, without the permision of the copyright holder. Why do think there are so many news stories from the USA and UK about the music and movie industry suing people for sharing files using both P2P and torrents.
     
  20. Boise Jim macrumors newbie

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    roidy beat me to the punch. Out of curiosity, are the copyright laws different in Croatia? Personally, I would be very surprised if it is different.

    In the US, P2P file sharing of copyrighted material is very illegal.

    Trust me, someone ripped me off and I learned a lot about copyright laws.
     
  21. ViciousShadow21 macrumors 68020

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    haha sorry guys i am not living in Croatia. i am currently living in Boston. sorry for the confusion. my family is from Croatia.

    anyway, thinking that i was wrong, which is known to happen :rolleyes:, i called Apple to get their input on the situation. I spoke to a nice women named Crystal. I approached it from the first person. i asked her if authorizing my friend's computer after giving him my music was an okay thing to do? She said that while this is not what they designed that feature for that it is a common practice and that they receive calls about all the time. She said that it is ok as long as i dont give it more than 5 ppl (this is possible by burning the Protected ACC files to an audio disc and then importing them back in to iTunes, hope i dont get in trouble for that). She said that this is essentially sharing music and they find that it encourages ppl to go out and buy more tunes by that same artist or similar artists. this is why they have come to accept it.

    but i do want to point out that i think that this is a very dumb way to share music. because at anytime your music can be de-authorized by the original user. also if you get a new computer you will have to go through the whole process again. this may prove difficult if you or the original user has moved for example.

    @OP
    while it seems that this is ok with apple to do i do not believe that it is a very efficient way. like i said above your music will always be at risk of becoming useless.
     
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    Apple are not the ones who make the rules when it comes to sharing music. It is the record labels and the artists.
     
  24. Rich1963 macrumors 6502

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    To expand on what Cromulent said, it won't be Apple dragging you to court to sue you for $7000 per song shared, so go ahead and take their advice. Just don't expect Steve Jobs filing an Amicus brief on your behalf.

    And, also, if I followed a poster's logic concerning the legality of Limewire and P2P, then marijuana is also legal. After all, alot of people do it, and it's pretty pervasive and public nowadays (not that I want this conversation to descend into the benefits of cannabis)...
     
  25. Alrescha macrumors 68020

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    Not entirely accurate. You need to authorize their computer, they don't need to know your account information on an ongoing basis. Apple's use of the word 'should' is just trying to get people to protect their userid and password appropriately.

    Thanks for muddying the waters. No-one was talking about complete strangers.

    If we take your definition of 'solely for personal use', then that would mean that the wife and kids are not allowed to have access either. I think that you would agree that would be silly. The situation is not as black and white as you would like to make it.

    And again, nobody was saying 'all your friends' or 'complete strangers'. The iTunes Store gives you an *explicit* license to copy music to five different computers plus your other devices (iPods, iPhones, Apple TV, etc.). One could argue that 'personal friends' meets the requirement of 'personal use' in the same way that wives and children do.

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