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gwb21471

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I have a powerbook 5300cs. I want to copy the old hard drive to a new one. What software can i use with my windows pc. My new mac i got won't read the old style disk format on the hard drive from powerbook 5300. I got a cf card adapter that will wok with old macs. I installed macdisk on my pc and i also installed hfs explorer too. Thanks for the help.
 
I would probably try to build an external SCSI drive that you could connect to the external SCSI port on the back of your powerbook and clone the drive that way. Blue SCSI is a modern SCSI emulator that uses an SD card. You should then be able to mount the SD card on your modern Windows PC and archive the HD image. Maybe mount a BlueSCSI in an old SCSI HD enclosure, then use a HDI30 to CN50 cable to connect it to your Powerbook?
 
I got a external scsi cd-rom now. I order it from Ebay. The only problem I am having is it doesn't read all cd i have and when it does it reads so slowly. Cd-rom is set to ID 4. It is a cd-rom from a pc and i suck it in a external case. I don't know if i need a driver for non-apple scsi cd-rom. But i did get it working long enough to install mac os 8.5 but now i can't get it to mount the cd-rom. I mounted it with mac os 7.5 at times. Well thanks for the help.
 
Do you have a SCSI terminator? SCSI is a chain, so the last device needs a terminating resistor to function correctly. Most SCSI CD-ROMS are very slow, like 2x or 4x. The SCSI ID shouldn't matter as long as it doesn't conflict with the internal drive. I think the internal drive is ID 0 by default.

It shouldn't need any specific drivers, but there are multiple versions of SCSI, i.e. SCSI-1, SCSI-2, SCSI-3, etc. I think most Macs of that era are SCSI-2. The spec should be backwards compatible. So you could use a SCSI-1 device on a SCSI-2 chain. There's a utility that lets you examine your SCSI chain and see which devices are active. I'm not sure if it's part of MacOS, or you have to download it separately. I'm sure it would be on Macintosh garden.

I haven't played with SCSI in a very long time, maybe others can offer better advice.
 
Do you have a SCSI terminator? SCSI is a chain, so the last device needs a terminating resistor to function correctly. Most SCSI CD-ROMS are very slow, like 2x or 4x. The SCSI ID shouldn't matter as long as it doesn't conflict with the internal drive. I think the internal drive is ID 0 by default.

It shouldn't need any specific drivers, but there are multiple versions of SCSI, i.e. SCSI-1, SCSI-2, SCSI-3, etc. I think most Macs of that era are SCSI-2. The spec should be backwards compatible. So you could use a SCSI-1 device on a SCSI-2 chain. There's a utility that lets you examine your SCSI chain and see which devices are active. I'm not sure if it's part of MacOS, or you have to download it separately. I'm sure it would be on Macintosh garden.

I haven't played with SCSI in a very long time, maybe others can offer better advice.
Yes it has a terminator on it. It has two terminator on it. One is build on the cd-rom and one is plug on the back of the external too. This one is scsi-2 and yes my ide hard drive id is 0. I did get it to upgrade to mac os 8.5. I going to play with it today. I got to figure out why it not mounting the cd-rom. It see it but not mounting it. I got a feeling the cd-rom and the computer not talking to each other right or got a bad motherboard. Thank for the help.
 
Well got my powerbook put all back together and it works great right now. But for some reason the scsi cd-rom won't read any CD's. The powerbook see it in the apple profiler as a cd-rom on ID4. My ide hard drive it ID0. When i open apple cd-player i will get a message telling me to hook up a apple cd-player. So i can't figure it out. It was reading cd's before i upgraded to macos 8.5. If anybody has a idea what maybe going on.
 
I change the scsi ID on cd-rom to ID5. Macos see it in the apple profile has a cd-rom now. But when i put a cd in it spins up then it stops like there no cd in there. So i thinking the cd-rom bad or Mac doesn't likr non apple cd-roms. Thanks to everyone that help me.
 
I change the scsi ID on cd-rom to ID5. Macos see it in the apple profile has a cd-rom now. But when i put a cd in it spins up then it stops like there no cd in there. So i thinking the cd-rom bad or Mac doesn't likr non apple cd-roms. Thanks to everyone that help me.
Have you tried using a factory-pressed CD that's known to be good? Some older drives might not like writeable CD-ROMS. The SCSI ID shouldn't matter, as long as it doesn't conflict with other SCSI devices on the bus. It's also possible you have a defective CD-ROM drive. This hardware is 30 years old, which is pre-historic in computer years, I'm old enough to remember when it was cutting edge. Showing my age...My last SCSI computer was a NeXT STATION that I had running with an internal drive, one external HDD and an external CD-ROM. I restored it, and it worked great. I sold it to a collector about a decade ago, and now he has quite a NeXT collection. Now I just play with Powermac G5s... It's heroic of you trying to get that old Powerbook working. Keep up the good work!

As for me, my next restoration project will probably be an old Heathkit ham radio from the '60s. Way off topic here. But old electronics require lots of TLC, patience and luck. But it's rewarding when you get it working, and you always learn something along the way and that makes you a better person.
 
Have you tried using a factory-pressed CD that's known to be good? Some older drives might not like writeable CD-ROMS. The SCSI ID shouldn't matter, as long as it doesn't conflict with other SCSI devices on the bus. It's also possible you have a defective CD-ROM drive. This hardware is 30 years old, which is pre-historic in computer years, I'm old enough to remember when it was cutting edge. Showing my age...My last SCSI computer was a NeXT STATION that I had running with an internal drive, one external HDD and an external CD-ROM. I restored it, and it worked great. I sold it to a collector about a decade ago, and now he has quite a NeXT collection. Now I just play with Powermac G5s... It's heroic of you trying to get that old Powerbook working. Keep up the good work!

As for me, my next restoration project will probably be an old Heathkit ham radio from the '60s. Way off topic here. But old electronics require lots of TLC, patience and luck. But it's rewarding when you get it working, and you always learn something along the way and that makes you a better person.
This scsi is a cd burner too. I tried all type of cd's in it. I tried audio, factory pressed and ones i burned. I looking on Ebay at few apple scsi drives or may get a blue scsi. I like to have old hardware to make it like it was in the old days. so I even took it apart and clean the eye in it. On your power mac g5 have you tried to get linux running on it? I seen to get linux to run right on it. thanks for the help.
 
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....On your power mac g5 have you tried to get linux running on it?....
I have not been able to get Linux graphics drivers to work properly on my G5. I decided that at least for me, there's not much point to running Linux on a G5, as it's a slower Linux machine than pretty much any commodity Intel-based PC. In my opinion, the greatest strength of the G5 is running OS X + Classic and being able to use the giant library of PPC Macintosh software that's out there. Good luck with the Powerbook, let us know how the project turns out.
 
I have not been able to get Linux graphics drivers to work properly on my G5. I decided that at least for me, there's not much point to running Linux on a G5, as it's a slower Linux machine than pretty much any commodity Intel-based PC. In my opinion, the greatest strength of the G5 is running OS X + Classic and being able to use the giant library of PPC Macintosh software that's out there. Good luck with the Powerbook, let us know how the project turns out.
I bought a apple 300i and replace my external cd-rom with this one and it works great. I can now read CD's now. Thanks for the help though this.
 
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