I know I should. I'm a greedy mofo. Lol. But my wife said she wants a new camera. Dam there goes my hope.
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Core i7 vs i5 - noticeable??
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Well if you wrest control back, get a nice travel case!
It's a little confusing here, after you've made the i5 so bad.
I think the i5 is good and solid processor and should do my usual tasks in: mail, office, social networks, aperture, iTunes ( watching movies, listening to music) and playing some fun games. However, it should be better as with the most 2010 13" MacBook Pros.
So, I just ordered the 13" model with the i5 1.7GHz processor a few seconds ago. As I said, 150€ (215 US$) seems a little bit much for the upgrade (Europe).
I hope, I'll will have fun with it, even if it's not a i7 MacBook Air.
I think the i5 is good and solid processor and should do my usual tasks in: mail, office, social networks, aperture, iTunes ( watching movies, listening to music) and playing some fun games. However, it should be better as with the most 2010 13" MacBook Pros.
So, I just ordered the 13" model with the i5 1.7GHz processor a few seconds ago. As I said, 150€ (215 US$) seems a little bit much for the upgrade (Europe).
I hope, I'll will have fun with it, even if it's not a i7 MacBook Air.
I bought the I7, because I have more $$ than sense. The I5 would have been completely fine for me - if you do HEAVY video editing or photo editing, then the I7 MIGHT make sense. Otherwise, the I5 is a great machine.
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Oh no question you got one fun machine there man!
Did you get the larger drive
Oh no question you got one fun machine there man!
Did you get the larger drive
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That's the one I'm eyeing myself
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That's the one I'm eyeing myself
Nice to hear that someone wants the i5 too.
1. Because if you read in this forum you get the feeling that the i5 is a lame duck.
2. And up on the i7 everything seems to be junk.
From what I read on the Intel site, the only difference between the i5 and the i7 is the slightly higher clock speed and the extra 1MB L3 cache. So in real world performance, the difference should be negligible. Having said that, spending $1600 on a laptop is a lot of money, and I'd rather get the fastest possible processor I can in the hope of extending its usefulness in the future.
I can see some people feel superior because they bought the i7, and put down those who bought the i5. I see some i5 buyers showing mild regret and letting the i7 buyers get inside their heads.
But really, its like Corvette owners who bought a stick shift putting down Corvette owners that bought an automatic. It is all very amusing...
I can see some people feel superior because they bought the i7, and put down those who bought the i5. I see some i5 buyers showing mild regret and letting the i7 buyers get inside their heads.
But really, its like Corvette owners who bought a stick shift putting down Corvette owners that bought an automatic. It is all very amusing...
Since you'll be doing Photoshop, there is a difference. The 1.7GHz i5 will turbo boost to 2.3; and the 1.8 i7 will boost to 2.9. So that's 2.3 vs 2.9. That's a straight up fact, none of the opinions. Some people here think they're still discussing C2D processors with a .1 GHz difference. Like one poster here mentioned, if you don't care for a few seconds, the 2010 models will also do just fine . Choice is yours, OP.
. Choice is yours, OP.
Sigh. "Too much" is so subjective. I can barely hear them even when they are running full blast. If I were in a completely sealed room with no other noises, the ringing in my ears would be worse than the MBA fans on an i7 model..
Since you'll be doing Photoshop, there is a difference. The 1.7GHz i5 will turbo boost to 2.3; and the 1.8 i7 will boost to 2.9. So that's 2.3 vs 2.9. That's a straight up fact, none of the opinions. Some people here think they're still discussing C2D processors with a .1 GHz difference. Like one poster here mentioned, if you don't care for a few seconds, the 2010 models will also do just fine
Ok than I think I get the right machine with the i5 for me. Yes I'll will be doing some Photoshop work, but not very often. I'm not a publisher or something like that. I only do some work with office programs and private things on it (no heavy gaming).
And if the next processor-gen./MBA update is much better than the actual i5's or i7's, I'll sell my MBA and buy the next one.
You'll be doing this
. I'm hearing we'll be eating quads for breakfast with the Ivy Bridge ULVs.I ordered the i7 and would have said that the threads on this forum are more pro i5 than i7, you favor the i5 and feel the i5 is getting a bad rap.
Perception is a funny thing.
I haven't got a clue what this means. Could you please translate it into English for those of us over 40?
Well I have two options. Purchase the 13" i5 for $1550 or 13" i7 for $1630. For $80 I went i7. Bottom line the i7 is the fastest processor in the MBA lineup. Some could argue only barely or too much heat. At the end of the day we buy faster processors for one thing only....SPEED! As for heat and fan noise, I've been on it for the last 2 hours with nothing over 55C. It's averaging 50C and rpm are at 2k or slighlty below. I think were all just beginning to realize the "breaking" period for these CPUs. Once people start receiving the BTO I'm sure will get a better knowledge of how these are for people around the world.
Did you read the replies? That's exactly what they're saying. No one said "there is no difference"
Really? I haven't seen that at all. I have seen quite the opposite though based on fan noise, heat and the negligible difference in performance for the majority tasks people do.
The teardown I saw looks like it's using a very similar cooling solution as the 2010 models, if this is the case and you couldn't hear the fans at full speed than you must have been wearing headphones. I can assure you that at full tilt, the fans on my 2010 are quite audible and from what I've seen in photos and read in user reviews, this is unchanged.
This almost suggests that the i5/i7 options cost the same.
I see people trying to feel superior by undermining the drawbacks and exaggerating the benefits.
For my company we'll be ordering i5 11's and i7 13's.
Agreed, i7 in 11" for our uses may have more disadvantages then advantages.
Agreed, i7 in 11" for our uses may have more disadvantages then advantages.
I own the 13" i7 and honestly the only time I have heard the fans come on was when I was installing CS5 and Xcode(and I was installing them at the same time..lol)
My Macbook Pro 2010 15" however does the same thing when I am installing these both on that computer as well so..
Browsing, working in Photoshop, or Xcode, even running a Windows 7 VM on it has not kicked the fans over to a point where I can hear them so make of that what you will.
I am with the rest of the crowd here who is telling you that if you are going to buy a $1600+ laptop, get the best. That way you are not playing the "what if" game once you get it. It also never hurts the resale value either to be able to put "Top of the line MBA for sale" in the subject line when selling your MBA prior to the next gen getting released.
Just my .02
My Macbook Pro 2010 15" however does the same thing when I am installing these both on that computer as well so..
Browsing, working in Photoshop, or Xcode, even running a Windows 7 VM on it has not kicked the fans over to a point where I can hear them so make of that what you will.
I am with the rest of the crowd here who is telling you that if you are going to buy a $1600+ laptop, get the best. That way you are not playing the "what if" game once you get it. It also never hurts the resale value either to be able to put "Top of the line MBA for sale" in the subject line when selling your MBA prior to the next gen getting released.
Just my .02
I would almost think it makes more sense to do the opposite. The Core i5 in the 13" runs at 1.7GHz, turbo boosts to 2.7GHz, and has the VT-d option, so it is closer to the i7 than the i5 that's in the 11" model.
Apple Expert, while we're talking performance, how many CPUs does the Activity monitor show for the i7 and i5? There seems to be a good bit of confusion whether or not the new Airs support hyper threading/turboboost. I know on my 2010 dual core i5 MBP it shows four virtual CPUs on the activity monitor.
On my i7 I see 4 bars when I dock the activity monitor icon. I need to get on the i5. Is that what your talking about?
Yes. The chips definitely support hyper threading. I've seen CPU utilization top 300% when using Parallels, as well as Handbrake.