Corellium Responds to Apple Lawsuit, Claims its iOS Virtualization Software Helps Apple

[Bin Cook]

The problem with this comparison is that such virtualization tools don't come with an OS. And theoretically, at least, the ones you load are licensed.

Anyone want a wager our sour friend is from Corellium?

 

[abhibeckert]

Too many here are not getting the use case for this, equating it to plain 'thievery'. This seems like a pretty neat research tool, that does what vmware/vbox/parallels do for desktop virtualization.

All of those virtualisation companies only emulate the hardware.

If virtual box came with a pirated copy of Windows 10 Pro - that would be the same as what’s happening here.

 

[MikeMo]

Whether it helps Apple or not is rather beside the point. The issue is whether or not their actions are legal. Period. The law doesn’t say “oh you can break the copyright when you feel it’s good for the other guy”.

 

[Kabeyun]

Too many here are not getting the use case for this, equating it to plain 'thievery'. This seems like a pretty neat research tool, that does what vmware/vbox/parallels do for desktop virtualization.

Regardless of the turn out for this, Apple really just wants to control how people are able to do security research on their devices. Considering how things went this past summer for webkit security and their response and the mess that has been the current 13/15 releases, they probably should do a better job opening up the system for security research. (yes I know about the recent changes to the bug bounty program)

I’m so relieved that Corellium has explained this for Apple’s lawyers. Once Apple realizes they were actually incorrect to sue them, I’m sure they’ll drop the lawsuit.

 

[slightly_sour]

And yet you literally joined a thread about a lawsuit about intellectual property rights. Weird.

Not really... My original comment was more on Apple's need for a lower barrier of entry to security research. Maybe that wasn't clear. And instead I got some fridge analogy that makes no sense.

Anyone want a wager our sour friend is from Corellium?

You would be wrong :/

I’m so relieved that Corellium has explained this for Apple’s lawyers. One Apple realizes they were actually incorrect to sue them, I’m sure they’ll drop the lawsuit.

Once* 🙂

 

[Lalatoon]

Apple will win this lawsuit without a problem at all.

But, I do like the idea of having a virtualization software for iOS. It does help a lot with regards to security research about the OS. I am curious why Apple does not provide this feature for developers and researchers.

Although the document is for server security but I think this applies to all system that has to deal with security, NIST said in its document that - "System security should not depend on the secrecy of the implementation or its components."

 

[CraigB1960]

lmfao. Anybody who’s ever read any software EULA will know this is most certainly not the case. In fact if you checked any licence agreement for almost any application, the one thing they’ll all say is that their code is off limits.

I would bet Corellium's EULA has strong language addressing the same. LOL. They will not win this case.

 

[GooeyGUI]

Charging customers for an inhouse emulator isn't a big deal, but not having the software licenses to use iOS is where they messed up.

 

[chucker23n1]

Charging customers for an inhouse emulator isn't a big deal, but not having the software licenses to use iOS is where they messed up.

Well, Apple probably wasn't gonna offer such licenses.

 

[mariusignorello]

It’s clear this lawsuit isn’t about business interests. More like “justice” for the JB and bug bounty communities and the dismantling of Apple’s security and structure.

It’s amazing to see the lengths people/companies will go to when they don’t get their way or don’t like your policies and procedures.

 

[cmaier]

Well, Apple probably wasn't gonna offer such licenses.

I don’t offer my spare bedroom for rent. Doesn’t mean you can just walk in off the street and use it.