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Could we please get an iPhone Legacy sub forum?
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Wow... the length that people will go to, to justify a purchase. Sad. It's just a phone....
BTW... how about an iPhone 8 Plus sub-forum? I need something/someone to help me
prove the 8 Plus is the best phone ever...
BTW... how about an iPhone 8 Plus sub-forum? I need something/someone to help me
prove the 8 Plus is the best phone ever...
@goshindoman For the record, I fully agree with you (obviously)
I think this might change over time as we see the X and it's new direction take over more and more of all the iPhone discussions. Users of something like the SE (me) are quickly just being buried and our threads never found or discussed, to say nothing of simply "older" iPhones like a 6/7 generation.
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I'm honestly trying my hardest to figure out how you came up with this comment based upon the thread contents..?
I think this might change over time as we see the X and it's new direction take over more and more of all the iPhone discussions. Users of something like the SE (me) are quickly just being buried and our threads never found or discussed, to say nothing of simply "older" iPhones like a 6/7 generation.
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I'm honestly trying my hardest to figure out how you came up with this comment based upon the thread contents..?
@annk What's your best guess on when the iPhone forum will calm down and get better as you'd sort of indicated?
Man does it need more moderation.
Current page 1 thread titles include:
- Always Thought That iOS Was Simpler Than Android
- How To Clear RAM on iPhone X
Shouldn't those be in the iOS Forum?
- Slight pink tint on one side
- Trade in lost...
Which phone models? (should be in title IMO)
- Should I get a iPhone or iPad ?
- New Phone Purchase
Should both be in buying tips/advice area of MacRumors
And depending upon how you count, around 35 of the 50 threads on Page 1 are X exclusive, likely more, but some are so poorly titled that it's hard to know (I wish they'd get moderator hints thrown their way to make better titles)
The iPhone forum just continues to be a "junk drawer" where everything gets dumped and is a cognitive load and a half to actually try to wade through and enjoy.
It's so frustrating
[doublepost=1511888831][/doublepost]Maybe MR could implement required "iPhone model" in the thread titles and allow us an easy way to filter by that, sort of like Reddit threads often do?
(like in HardwareSwap where you can filter by buying/selling/etc)
Man does it need more moderation.
Current page 1 thread titles include:
- Always Thought That iOS Was Simpler Than Android
- How To Clear RAM on iPhone X
Shouldn't those be in the iOS Forum?
- Slight pink tint on one side
- Trade in lost...
Which phone models? (should be in title IMO)
- Should I get a iPhone or iPad ?
- New Phone Purchase
Should both be in buying tips/advice area of MacRumors
And depending upon how you count, around 35 of the 50 threads on Page 1 are X exclusive, likely more, but some are so poorly titled that it's hard to know (I wish they'd get moderator hints thrown their way to make better titles)
The iPhone forum just continues to be a "junk drawer" where everything gets dumped and is a cognitive load and a half to actually try to wade through and enjoy.
It's so frustrating
[doublepost=1511888831][/doublepost]Maybe MR could implement required "iPhone model" in the thread titles and allow us an easy way to filter by that, sort of like Reddit threads often do?
(like in HardwareSwap where you can filter by buying/selling/etc)
The best way to notify the moderation team of these issues, is to report the posts. The moderation team is small and we do not have the man power to review each and every post or thread, so if you see a rules violation or a thread posted in a forum that might not be right, report it.
Pause for thought. Could some of the confusion be avoided if you had separate sections for each device? My first post here ended up in a thread that was 3 years old just because I searched for a topic and made a major blunder. This was entirely down to this forum not having sections for each iPhone. One can only suggest. This is not my forum, When I come here I come as a guest. I still fail to see why this would be a problem in fact it makes perfect logic.
I still have a lot of questions and help I need but just don't have the time to wade through pages and pages of threads looking for threads regarding the iPhone 8 plus.
I think the mods do a great job here and thank them for their tireless work, its not an easy task. Thank you to all who run this forum.
Ryland
Fully Agree Ryland.
They are doing a good job trying to keep up, and I just wish they'd help themselves and the rest of us by chopping up the iPhone section a bit.
Like you, I don't even bother for browsing there hoping for meaningful finds on my device (SE). Anything that does get posted gets quickly buried, especially when so many topics are clones of each other along the lines of "should I keep my ____", "x color screen tint thread", etc.
Just so much of the iPhone section has become, understandably, device specific by now that it makes so much sense to break them up.
Imagine if all MacBooks were in one spot and we kept getting "which one should I buy" & "is your keyboard doing this?" threads, all intermingled among all notebooks in one forum.
It effectively makes the whole forum useless and a cognitive dump truck load of overwhelming posts.
I have no idea. As I've stated at least once before, experience has shown us that the wisest course is to wait and see.
And that's where we'll leave it for now.
I apologize if my frustration around this is also frustrating you - Not my intent.
We are just trying to give constructive feedback as we love the forum and want it to get better.
It does feel like a bit of an oxymoron to cite "experience has shown us" but in the same sentence say "I have no idea" when it will die down.
Shouldn't the experience being used to cite the decision to do nothing be able to inform when the X fever will die down, or at least be guessed at based upon previous releases over the years? (the experience part)
Anyhow - It's actually different points now. The X (or whatever latest phone) dying down is separate issue from the value of breaking up the iPhone section into relevant models/generations.
I still wonder about requiring that thread titles discussing a certain model label the thread as such. That alone would help immensely!
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I do notice that my answers don't seem to be heard, hence the need for repetition. That might be what you interpret as frustration.
Feedback is great, but when we answer there's not a lot of use in repeating the question. I understand from your many requests that you feel strongly about this, but really all I can do is repeat our stance. If there were black-and-white answers, we would give them to you.
The reason I wrote "and that's where we'll leave it" was to attempt to convey that as far as this specific issue, there's nothing more to discuss right now.
We're not doing nothing, we're waiting to see how the situation evolves. No, I can't predict when this specific wave will die down. I can however say that it's still early days. I can - and have - told you that we have experience in evaluating forum structure in relation to new products, and that we aren't ignoring it this time. I and others have pointed out that this is not a new phenomenon; there's always a surge when a new product is announced. Often, it dies down. Sometimes it doesn't. Hence the wait and see attitude.
It's fine to discuss if we're moving on from the previous issue now.
I agree. This unfortunately doesn't work. Users either don't bother or forget. If it's required, lack of compliance generates many extra post reports and a much greater need to edit thread titles, at the expense of more pressing duties.
I've traditionally been in favor of thread prefixes. I think they're a good compromise between new sections and the need to categorize groups of threads. Sadly, experience has shown us that users don't bother using them. And if they aren't used consistently, they don't help. Requiring them before a thread can be created is one possibility, and the relative value needs to be balanced against the extent to which the extra step irritates users (and it does irritate some - we get feedback about this as well).
We're discussing this now.
Funny, but for years several of us have been asking for a forum for older Intel Macs-basically plastic Macbooks, plastic iMacs, non-unibody MBPs and the like and have always been shot down.
Posts about these get buried in the current fora, and if they get a response it's "buy a new one."
Posts about these get buried in the current fora, and if they get a response it's "buy a new one."
We've set up obligatory thread prefixes for all new threads in the iPhone section. As of now, users have to choose one of these when creating a new thread:
iPhone 5 and earlier
iPhone SE
iPhone 6(+)
iPhone 7(+)
iPhone 8(+)
iPhone X
Other
iPhone 5 and earlier
iPhone SE
iPhone 6(+)
iPhone 7(+)
iPhone 8(+)
iPhone X
Other
Thank you VERY much for doing this..
It's so much better already..
I can just scroll right down by color and ignore most all of it (loads of X talk, as would be expected) and ultimately click on my tag of choice (SE).
Very very welcome addition to the site!
It's so much better already..
I can just scroll right down by color and ignore most all of it (loads of X talk, as would be expected) and ultimately click on my tag of choice (SE).
Very very welcome addition to the site!
Thank you again for adding these tags!
As I'd figured would be the case, any SE discussion is lucky to have even one thread per forum page of late, if that..
Having the tags makes it actually possible for me to enjoy the iPhone forum as I just scan down and find my color and scroll right past the rest with minimal cognitive load looking for my threads...
As I'd figured would be the case, any SE discussion is lucky to have even one thread per forum page of late, if that..
Having the tags makes it actually possible for me to enjoy the iPhone forum as I just scan down and find my color and scroll right past the rest with minimal cognitive load looking for my threads...
https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/iphone.99/?prefix_id=56
If you want, you can just click on one of the SE prefixes and see nothing but those like in my screenshot. Or you could bookmark this ^ and do the same thing.
If you want, you can just click on one of the SE prefixes and see nothing but those like in my screenshot. Or you could bookmark this ^ and do the same thing.