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Yes! Stop this non-sense. It's just another new toy for most of us. I get as many toys as I can, whenever I can. I don't plan to replace anything after I get the iPad. Probably redistribute the amount of time spent on my other machines, but will be just another toy.

I think of it like this - I have my fast German sedan (130mph+), big American SUV (480hp), and a motorcycle... Nobody argues or questions which does what better. I use a different vehicle depending on my mood. They all take me from point A to B just fine... Where it differs is how many passengers, how comfortable, how fast, and how safe. I'll use the best that fit my need or mood at the time. Isn't this the same thing with the MBA (or any other small profile device) and the iPad? :confused:

Have your big and powerful desktop, powerful notebook, portable notebook/netbook, iPhone, and now the iPad and wait for the next toy to add to your inventory. Your life is not an RPG game that only allows you to carry a limited number of things in your satchel. Have as many as you can. :D

I pretty much agree with you. People just get defensive about their choice to buy or not to buy. I think most can agree that an iPad isn't going to replace anyones computer. It's simply not made to do that. Typing on it looks awkward (but I'll hold out on a final judgement), and typing with some keyboard and then touching and going back and forth looks even worse. Remember that writing emails, chatting, FB updates is a huge part of a typical users daily computer use.

Personally, if I get an iPad it'll just be another gadget/toy I have around the house. It certainly won't change how I lived and travelled like the iPhone surprisingly did and I'm not going to carry around a 3rd device (iPhone + MBP already). If I need portable and won't need to work then it'll still be the iPhone all the way. If the iPhone won't handle my needs it means I have to do more than just consume content so I'll have the full power of my MBP.

Oh and to the person above about swiping as the best way to look at pictures lol. No, hooking a large TV up to a mac mini/apple TV is by far the best way to look at pictures.
 
Every journalist at the media event was invited to play with the device. These same journalists have said plenty of negative things about it but they all describe it as blazingly fast and enjoyable to use.

Being fast and a joy to use doesn't mean it has a purpose.

I love my MBA to death but I believe the iPad does several things better and I feel these features are worth the $500. For example, I will do almost all of my web browsing on the iPad because I feel multi-touch is a more enjoyable experience than a trackpad for surfing the web. The cons (lack of flash) do not outweigh the pros.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I like not having to constantly switch devices. If I'm at my computer editing a video, I want to be able to stay at my computer when I check my email. And even if I were to surf the web on an iPad, I wouldn't want to have to switch to a computer each time I needed Flash.

While the iPad doesn't replace a laptop and isn't as functional, what it does do gives a more enjoyable experience. I also believe that most of what people do on a laptop does not require extensive use of a keyboard and having it there is a negative.

I use my keyboard more than my mouse most of the time, actually. From typing posts like this, to doing a simple command+s to save something, a keyboard is my input device of choice. Most computer users who have even slightly better than a "newb" level of skills use keyboard shortcuts all the time.

If you want to argue about redundant features, a MBA does everything a iPod does. Why buy an iPod? Because it's more portable and convenient? Well, the same applies to the iPad.

But it's not! An iPod fits in your pocket, something most people have on them every day, whether they want one or not. An iPad requires a whole separate bag to carry it in, which can be an inconvenience. Bags can get lost, stolen, crushed, forgotten... not to mention they're a nuisance. A pocket is with you all the time; there's nothing extra to remember, and unless you're an idiot and sit down with an iPod in your back pocket, the worst that can happen to it is it's pick-pocketed (or stolen out of your hand).

If you need to carry something so large that it requires a separate bag, why not at least use that bag to hold a device that has the maximum utility you can get?

A MBA is 2x heavier than an iPad and 1.6x the size.

A MBA can do an ∞ amount more than an iPad. 2x the weight and a slightly larger footprint are more than worth it. You need to consider all that you're getting for only slightly more heft.

By comparison, a MBP is only 1.5x heavier than a MBA and has similar dimensions, yet most people feel the difference and are willing to pay a huge premium for the MBA.

A low-end 13" MacBook Pro costs $1199. A low-end MacBook Air costs $1499. The $300 difference is hardly a "huge premium," especially when you're willing to spend that much on a computer as it is.
 
Being fast and a joy to use doesn't mean it has a purpose.

The purpose is to have fun.

I use my keyboard more than my mouse most of the time, actually. From typing posts like this, to doing a simple command+s to save something, a keyboard is my input device of choice. Most computer users who have even slightly better than a "newb" level of skills use keyboard shortcuts all the time.

When I say "extensive keyboard use", I meant typing long documents or code. The on-screen keyboard is fine for posts on a message board. I type 40-45WPM on the iPhone (with perfect grammar and punctuation) and I expect to get at least that on the iPad. In fact, I am typing this post on an iPhone and don't feel that it's slowing me down.

An OS built for multi-touch displays eliminates the need for keyboard shortcuts altogether.

If you need to carry something so large that it requires a separate bag, why not at least use that bag to hold a device that has the maximum utility you can get?

1.5 vs 3 pounds makes a big difference to me. I look forward to not having to bring a laptop for weekend trips when I don't need to do heavy computing. Also, the form factor is makes a huge difference.

With a laptop, you need to sit down, place on your lap, and open it. On an iPad, you just grab it with one hand and continue reading a website you had open earlier while you walk to the kitchen. I must not be the only one who likes to browse the web while walking around my house.
 
The purpose is to have fun.
Congrats if this is what you look for in a computer.
It's fun to get a cheap Polaroid and take photos, but you wouldn't use that for professional work or even as a hobby. Would you?

I type 40-45WPM on the iPhone (with perfect grammar and punctuation)... the form factor is makes a huge difference.
Heh, yea.

With a laptop, you need to sit down, place on your lap, and open it. On an iPad, you just grab it with one hand and continue reading a website you had open earlier while you walk to the kitchen. I must not be the only one who likes to browse the web while walking around my house.

And that is really a problem? I keep my Macbook on my bedside table. It takes around... 10 seconds to lift it from there, place it on my lap and open it up where it instantly wakes from sleep. Is this hindering me in any way? No. The speed of which a laptop is operable and the faster nature of a physical keyboard negates the incessantly long setup time before I can use my computer.
As for the weight; I carried around a PB for years weighing around twice as much as my current Macbook. When it's in my Crumpler bag the noticeable weight difference is negligible.
 
I think the dichotomy, demonstrated in this thread, between those who view computers, iPhones, iPads, etc., as toys and those of use who view them as tools is fascinating. I agree with those of you who view the iPad as a neat toy. It is certainly that, so I certainly understand the thinking of those who are going to buy one right away. I am not, however, because the iPad is so small it lacks a keyboard, has only a 9.56 inch display, and yet is too large to be carried in a pocket. No thanks, then, the iPad is not for me.

I have lusted for an ultraportable 13 inch computer ever since the MBA was introduced. Unfortunately, I run a bunch of Windows apps on my MBP, thanks to Windows 7, VMware Fusion, and a bunch of memory. Because the MBA's RAM is limited to the 2Gb hardwired into it, I couldn't use it, or at least not comfortably. When I ran Windows and Fusion on my MBA with only 2Gb of RAM, Windows apps were both slow and unstable. Thus, I can't imagine that I would have any better luck with the MBA.

The foregoing frustrates me because at the moment Apple doesn't have a product that would work for me. The iPad is too small and too limited and the MBA lacks the RAM to do for me what I would need it to do. Even the impressive ultraportable Sony Z i7 wouldn't work for me. Why not? It won't run OS X, which ends the inquiry as far as I am concerned.

The only good news is that the AppleCare coverage on my MBP has the better part of a year to run, so I can afford to wait to see what comes next, and maybe the next time after that.
 
The foregoing frustrates me because at the moment Apple doesn't have a product that would work for me. The iPad is too small and too limited and the MBA lacks the RAM to do for me what I would need it to do.

Not to worry.

Yours truly, Sir Steve
 
should get to the gym more … …:D

True. The MBA is about the same weight by the time the iPad and its accessories are thrown into a bag. The MBA is slightly less portable, but it's a hell of a lot more functional.

What I find amazing is the willingness of people to buy all of the accessories that contradict the whole iPad experience. Add a keyboard dock that makes the iPad sit upright so it's not easy to work with the touch screen interface. How many times will they smear the display with fingerprints? How many times will they knock the iPad over after not touching the iPad lightly enough? Seems like they will need a bluetooth mouse too, but no the mouse doesn't work with the iPad? Why would they want a cover that ruins the experience? Then they have to remove the cover to connect to their keyboard dock. Then they have various assortments of cables which don't really allow them to connect to a TV with no video port... doesn't have any USB inputs to interface with cameras and other peripherals. So, people are going to throw all of this into a bag, and it carry it everywhere and have a worse experience than the MBA could provide. All for a device that cannot even surf the web.

I will use the MBA on the go... and an iPad will be a toy that I can show off and see if it somehow will provide a better experience for anything my MBA can already do... but I don't expect it to be better than the MBA at anything other than as a book reader and an away from home movie viewer (for content I am willing to pay for). What I expect is the iPad will go right in the MBA's bag when I am traveling. When I am on a plane, I will watch a few movies on the iPad. When I want to read a book, I will read an iBook on the iPad. When I want to work, I will use the MBA. When I want to check email on the go, I will use the iPhone. When I want to find a business in the back of a cab, I will use the iPhone. When I want to make a call, I will use the iPhone. When I want to take a photo and send it to a friend, I will use the iPhone. When I want to play a game on the go, I will use the iPhone. When I want to surf the web, I will use the MBA. When I want to run an app, I will run it on the MBA. When I want to type, I will do it on the MBA. It's this simple... the MBA is for work, web, and free entertainment (Flash capable)... the iPad is for movies (those I'm willing to pay for) and iBooks reading... the iPhone is for all communications.

There is a little bit of overlap, but each device has a specific purpose that I am willing to pay for. If I don't end up using the iPad, it will go to the kids or stay on the coffee table as a conversation piece - or it will be used by guests to check their email or browse for movie times or find something to do for the night like find a restaurant.

I see a place for the iPad, but I don't see it replacing the MBA for a long time.
 
True. The MBA is about the same weight by the time the iPad and its accessories are thrown into a bag. The MBA is slightly less portable, but it's a hell of a lot more functional.

What I find amazing is the willingness of people to buy all of the accessories that contradict the whole iPad experience.

I am not buying a single accessory (not even a case) and I don't think the majority of people are either.

BTW, "you need to go to the gym" arguments are ridiculous. I can argue that if you need a MBA over a 17" MBP, you need to go to the gym. If you can't pick up a 27" iMac, you need to go the gym. Lighter is always better. That's why I have an iPod shuffle. Are you saying that an iPod nano is too heavy for me?

The iPod shuffle is good comparison, actually. It's a crippled and less functional version of bigger iPods. Even the biggest iPod fits in your pocket so, according to people here, it is not more portable. Yet they are still selling like hotcakes.

So, people are going to throw all of this into a bag, and it carry it everywhere and have a worse experience than the MBA could provide. All for a device that cannot even surf the web.

It can surf the web just fine. You are a little shortsighted. The future is flash free and Apple will accelerate the process. CBS and NBC has HTML5 versions of their site and ABC is following. Hulu and all the others are next. In six months, flash will be dead.

My friend, a photographer, has his whole website designed in flash. When he heard that the iPad won't display it, he immediately started redesigning it without flash. Most companies have this mindset.
 
True. The MBA is about the same weight by the time the iPad and its accessories are thrown into a bag. The MBA is slightly less portable, but it's a hell of a lot more functional.

What I find amazing is the willingness of people to buy all of the accessories that contradict the whole iPad experience. Add a keyboard dock that makes the iPad sit upright so it's not easy to work with the touch screen interface. How many times will they smear the display with fingerprints? How many times will they knock the iPad over after not touching the iPad lightly enough? Seems like they will need a bluetooth mouse too, but no the mouse doesn't work with the iPad? Why would they want a cover that ruins the experience? Then they have to remove the cover to connect to their keyboard dock. Then they have various assortments of cables which don't really allow them to connect to a TV with no video port... doesn't have any USB inputs to interface with cameras and other peripherals. So, people are going to throw all of this into a bag, and it carry it everywhere and have a worse experience than the MBA could provide. All for a device that cannot even surf the web.

I will use the MBA on the go... and an iPad will be a toy that I can show off and see if it somehow will provide a better experience for anything my MBA can already do... but I don't expect it to be better than the MBA at anything other than as a book reader and an away from home movie viewer (for content I am willing to pay for). What I expect is the iPad will go right in the MBA's bag when I am traveling. When I am on a plane, I will watch a few movies on the iPad. When I want to read a book, I will read an iBook on the iPad. When I want to work, I will use the MBA. When I want to check email on the go, I will use the iPhone. When I want to find a business in the back of a cab, I will use the iPhone. When I want to make a call, I will use the iPhone. When I want to take a photo and send it to a friend, I will use the iPhone. When I want to play a game on the go, I will use the iPhone. When I want to surf the web, I will use the MBA. When I want to run an app, I will run it on the MBA. When I want to type, I will do it on the MBA. It's this simple... the MBA is for work, web, and free entertainment (Flash capable)... the iPad is for movies (those I'm willing to pay for) and iBooks reading... the iPhone is for all communications.

There is a little bit of overlap, but each device has a specific purpose that I am willing to pay for. If I don't end up using the iPad, it will go to the kids or stay on the coffee table as a conversation piece - or it will be used by guests to check their email or browse for movie times or find something to do for the night like find a restaurant.

I see a place for the iPad, but I don't see it replacing the MBA for a long time.

Your first paragraph was great, made loads of sense... but it all came apart in the second paragraph.

You say you're going to buy an iPad for movies and iBooks. You also say you'll always have the MBA and iPad together. So why would you want to watch movies on a 10" 4:3 screen as opposed to the 13" 16:10 screen you'll have with you as well? And iBooks... if all it is to you, then, is an eBook reader, why not save a couple hundred dollars and get a Kindle? You'll get several weeks of battery, ability to download eBooks anywhere, etc, and depending on which rumors you believe, books will be cheaper or the same price on a Kindle. Or, if you don't mind the form factor, you can even get eBooks on your Air, and have even less to carry.
 
I am not buying a single accessory (not even a case) and I don't think the majority of people are either.

BTW, "you need to go to the gym" arguments are ridiculous. I can argue that if you need a MBA over a 17" MBP, you need to go to the gym. If you can't pick up a 27" iMac, you need to go the gym. Lighter is always better. That's why I have an iPod shuffle. Are you saying that an iPod nano is too heavy for me?

The iPod shuffle is good comparison, actually. It's a crippled and less functional version of bigger iPods. Even the biggest iPod fits in your pocket so, according to people here, it is not more portable. Yet they are still selling like hotcakes.

It can surf the web just fine. You are a little shortsighted. The future is flash free and Apple will accelerate the process. CBS and NBC has HTML5 versions of their site and ABC is following. Hulu and all the others are next. In six months, flash will be dead.

My friend, a photographer, has his whole website designed in flash. When he heard that the iPad won't display it, he immediately started redesigning it without flash. Most companies have this mindset.

First, I never made the "gym" argument, so go elsewhere with your quote and reply. Take your ridiculous BS and shove it. Honestly, do a little research and see who made the statement before you go accusing me of somehow offending you - maybe lighten up a bit. Quite honestly, you have downright pissed me off. How many times do you ever see me making personal attacks here or calling people names or shortsighted or whatever on these forums just because they don't agree with me?

People need to take a chill. We're not talking Communism vs. Democracy... nor Abortion vs. Pro life... We're debating MBA vs. iPad. It's not that important that we need to call people names. I get sick of the damn disgusting comments people make on these forums all the time when someone attacks their favorite Apple product or points out a truth about a product's shortcomings. We are discussing technology not people. I am not here to attack anybody, why the hell do people think they can go ahead and tell people off and call them names... all over your furor to a damn comment I never made!

I already pre-ordered the iPad myself too, so don't go tell me that I don't get it or I don't know the facts of the product. I get the whole thing. I am looking forward to it, but it doesn't mean I am going to throw my MBA away. It also doesn't mean I cannot see where the iPad has serious limitations.

BTW, I think the long term success of the iPad will be amazing and bigger than the iPhone and iPod Touch. I see them being used for so many things not even thought of yet, and the App Store is where the real breakthroughs will come. It's the App Store that drives the innovation and app development then drives sales of the iPad. The App Store doesn't make Apple a bunch of money from its 30% cut of the app sales... the Apps make the innovation and uses of the products more specific to the end user. The desire to buy and use the apps actually drives sales of iPod Touches and iPhones unimaginably, and it will work even better with the iPad.

In the short-term, I find its lack of power and ability to surf the web troubling. In addition, I don't feel like many people will be happy when they learn they have to pay for every bit of content on their iPad and learn just how big the Flash loss truly is to their surfing. I don't believe most people are aware that Flash isn't just videos and banner ads. People just don't care now, but I think they will care when their iPad doesn't do what they really need it to do on occasion.

The bottom line is I like to argue both sides of the issue. I find a lot of the iPads inabilities easy to fix. In the long run HTML5 and h.264 will provide an acceptable solution - the problem is in the short term, Apple doesn't have any way to display the Flash content whether it's a video, navigation, an intro page or an advertisement. Flash isn't going to be removed from the Internet in six months - maybe five years (no not even then). Even then, why should we remove Flash unless it's actually inferior to a better solution. The recent Flash vs. HTML5 and h.264 testing results showed the same performance where both apps had access to hardware decoding. Flash isn't evil and neither is Adobe. But at least Apple can be happy knowing that Adobe doesn't beat it at web graphics player technologies - that's really how stupid this whole thing is. Jobs doesn't like Adobe and cannot accept Flash as a standard, so he is going to bring it down and call it crap software.

Do you realize how many small business, entrepreneur, and even text-based sites there are on the web that use Flash for an introduction, graphics, or even the navigation bar? Those are not going to be changed out in six months. At least 90% of them will not even know an iPad cannot view their site. How many went and removed Flash from their sites with the iPod Touch and iPhone releases? About as close to none as is possible. A year ago, 98% of all devices that connected to the Internet had Flash installed and where fully capable of displaying Flash content. The bottom line is it's going to cost a lot of money to rid the Internet of Flash. If I owned a small business, I wouldn't change my website for less than 1% of Internet users using iPad/iPhone... and probably wouldn't change anything unless I owned a tech based company with heavy Apple product users buying my products or services or sold products and services that worked with Apple products. Otherwise, there's very little reason to rid the Internet of Flash. It's not worth small business owners money to change out Flash. About the only thing I would do is remove Flash from homepage graphics and ensure navigation was acceptable. I definitely wouldn't remove video content being displayed by Flash. The bottom line is Flash is an accepted standard whether Apple likes it or not.

Please do not take it as a personal attack that I can argue against the iPad and in favor of the MBA when it comes to this debate. At the same time, I am buying an iPad, and already committed the money to Apple via a pre-order. I will have it day one, because I am an Apple fan. In addition, my AAPL pays for my Apple products. If I didn't own AAPL, I probably couldn't afford Apple products, LOL.
 
Your first paragraph was great, made loads of sense... but it all came apart in the second paragraph.

You say you're going to buy an iPad for movies and iBooks. You also say you'll always have the MBA and iPad together. So why would you want to watch movies on a 10" 4:3 screen as opposed to the 13" 16:10 screen you'll have with you as well? And iBooks... if all it is to you, then, is an eBook reader, why not save a couple hundred dollars and get a Kindle? You'll get several weeks of battery, ability to download eBooks anywhere, etc, and depending on which rumors you believe, books will be cheaper or the same price on a Kindle. Or, if you don't mind the form factor, you can even get eBooks on your Air, and have even less to carry.

Um, I will decide how I use my iPad, iPhone, and MBA. I don't need anyone else telling me that my preferences are incorrect. It all comes down to personal preference.

Yes, if I am on a plane or in bed I THINK I would rather watch a movie on an iPad. I don't have it yet. We're talking about overlap of abilities here. The iPad has a 9.6" IPS display. While it's 4:3, it's not going to display an HD movie distorted in 4:3. It's not as big, but it also doesn't have a keyboard in the way so it can be held closer to the eyes and doesn't have to sit on a lap or table.

Again, it's my PREFERENCE to use an iPad and not a Kindle or Nook to read on. I considered those, but I would rather give my money to Apple. I like the look of Apple's products much better. I like the multifunction of the iPad whether I plan to use every function all the time. I know that it can do basic tasks like light Internet, brief email replies, games and etc if I want to use it for those, but most of the time I will have an iPhone on the go too.

For work, a keyboard is absolutely necessary. I am not going to type out a book, client plan, or even reply to MR threads on the iPad. The MBA is a work tool. The iPad is an entertainment device. The iPhone is a communication device. Sure, I could just use the MBA to do most of what the iPad will do, but I want the iPad - that's a good thing. I want the iPad even though I know the MBA is far more capable. Just like I know the iPad is slightly more capable than an iPhone, but the iPad will not work as well for communications and isn't as portable. The iPad will provide a better experience for reading books and watching movies for the way I wish to use them. I don't think it seems that crazy. I am not exactly hurting for money so I cannot pay for either. My AAPL easily pays for my Apple product addictions.

I don't care about having less to carry the four to six days per month I usually travel. We're talking a whole extra 1.5 lb in my bag. It's not like I am taking both the MBA and iPad to the gym with me. It's not like I am taking the MBA and iPad both to work with me. It's that when I am traveling, I would prefer to use an iPad for entertainment. I don't want the MBA's keyboard in the way when I am watching a movie or reading a book. If you think about it, the iPad will actually feel bigger to view because it doesn't have a keyboard in the way so you can place it closer to your eyes for the exact size you want the display within your vision. At 12" from your face, I assume it will look bigger than the MBA sitting on an airline tray table.

In the end, I want to spend the money, and I don't give a damn about the $700 nor the extra 1.5 lb to carry in my bag when I am traveling across the country. It seems pretty obvious to me that while a lot of the features of these Apple products overlap but one product might result in a better user experience for certain tasks... for me, an iPad is for entertainment on the go or in bed. If I am on the couch, the LCD TV does the job better for movie viewing, but the iPad still works better for reading an eBook.
 
Better at what?

Web? No
Email? Yes
Photos? No
Music? Same
Video? No
Ebooks? lol No
Games? blololol No

Apps? what apps? No
 
Um, I will decide how I use my iPad, iPhone, and MBA. I don't need anyone else telling me that my preferences are incorrect. It all comes down to personal preference.

Yes, if I am on a plane or in bed I THINK I would rather watch a movie on an iPad. I don't have it yet. We're talking about overlap of abilities here. The iPad has a 9.6" IPS display. While it's 4:3, it's not going to display an HD movie distorted in 4:3. It's not as big, but it also doesn't have a keyboard in the way so it can be held closer to the eyes and doesn't have to sit on a lap or table.

You forgot to mention that a MBA can not finish a 2hr+ movie on a single charge...

Side note on the 4:3 display... Beside the strange look of a widescreen tablet, wouldn't a widescreen format media, show it's proper ratio on an iPad with horizontal bars top and bottom? In this case, the screen would display, approximately, as a 7" widescreen, right??? Which is acceptable to me. Screen aspect ratio is a trivial matter to me, as no "one" format is a do it all. Maybe in the future where more and more media gets produced widescreen(EDIT: replaced 16:9) centric, this won't be an issue Displaying 4:3 on 16:9 monitor is not fun either... So, which is better, vertical black bars or horizontal? :D
 
People need to take a chill. We're not talking Communism vs. Democracy... nor Abortion vs. Pro life... We're debating MBA vs. iPad. It's not that important that we need to call people names. I get sick of the damn disgusting comments people make on these forums all the time when someone attacks their favorite Apple product or points out a truth about a product's shortcomings.
Your understandable reaction to another poster's emotional, to me at least, defense of the iPad brings something else to mind. Ever since I again started posting regularly here, I have noticed that too many posters seem to be ill-informed and angrily defensive, and demonstrate a mental age of about 14. Fortunately, however, they represent a minority of those who post here. Most seem to be courteous, cool-headed, and well informed.

As already noted in an earlier post, for my purposes the iPad's weaknesses outweigh its strengths. Thus, unless later developments change my mind, I won't be buying one.
 
Side note on the 4:3 display... Beside the strange look of a widescreen tablet, wouldn't a widescreen format media, show it's proper ratio on an iPad with horizontal bars top and bottom? In this case, the screen would display, approximately, as a 7" widescreen, right??? Which is acceptable to me. Screen aspect ratio is a trivial matter to me, as no "one" format is a do it all. Maybe in the future where more and more media gets produced 16:9 centric, this won't be an issue Displaying 4:3 on 16:9 monitor is not fun either... So, which is better, vertical black bars or horizontal? :D
Virtually all HD shows are filmed in 16:9 format and 1.85:1 movies are shown 16:9, which requires no significant cropping of the horizontal aspect of the film. 2.35:1 movies, though, if shown in their original aspect ratio, are shown with black bars at the top and bottom of the image. As a practical matter, it seems to me that about as many movies are released with a ratio of 1.85:1 as are released with a ratio of 2.35:1.

I don't want to watch a movie on any handheld screen when I can see it on a Blu-ray disc displayed on a big screen HDTV. Finally, though, I agre with you that the aspect ratio used on any film viewed on an iPad's tiny screen should be regarded as a trivial matter.
 
First, I never made the "gym" argument, so go elsewhere with your quote and reply. Take your ridiculous BS and shove it. Honestly, do a little research and see who made the statement before you go accusing me of somehow offending you - maybe lighten up a bit. Quite honestly, you have downright pissed me off. How many times do you ever see me making personal attacks here or calling people names or shortsighted or whatever on these forums just because they don't agree with me?

People need to take a chill. We're not talking Communism vs. Democracy... nor Abortion vs. Pro life... We're debating MBA vs. iPad. It's not that important that we need to call people names. I get sick of the damn disgusting comments people make on these forums all the time when someone attacks their favorite Apple product or points out a truth about a product's shortcomings. We are discussing technology not people. I am not here to attack anybody, why the hell do people think they can go ahead and tell people off and call them names... all over your furor to a damn comment I never made!

You are the one that needs to chill. I didn't say you made the gym comment. I just said gym arguments, in general, are ridiculous and you replied "True" indicating you agreed with it. When did I personally attack you or call you a name? Saying I think you are shortsighted here is just my opinion, not an attack or a name, and didn't deserve that angered response. Calling someone a "moron" or an "idiot" is calling someone a name. Shortsighted, on the other hand, is used in debates all the time.
 
Virtually all HD shows are filmed in 16:9 format and 1.85:1 movies are shown 16:9, which requires no significant cropping of the horizontal aspect of the film. 2.35:1 movies, though, if shown in their original aspect ratio, are shown with black bars at the top and bottom of the image. As a practical matter, it seems to me that about as many movies are released with a ratio of 1.85:1 as are released with a ratio of 2.35:1.

I don't want to watch a movie on any handheld screen when I can see it on a Blu-ray disc displayed on a big screen HDTV. Finally, though, I agre with you that the aspect ratio used on any film viewed on an iPad's tiny screen should be regarded as a trivial matter.

True... I too, rather watch any HD media on my big screen.

Your comment actually made me remember something that was on my mind while reading this thread from the beginning... I'll probably keep the iPad in my bathroom stacked right next to my magazines (the same magazines that will probably disappear as more and more of them become digital versions. At least I would prefer them in digital version because I travel so much) and stop taking my iPhone or MBA to the bathroom when I go do my business. :p
 
True... I too, rather watch any HD media on my big screen.
Yeah, there were a couple of threads over in the MacbookPro/Powerbook Forum where a number of posters thought that Apple was being irresponsible by not putting Blu-ray burners in the Macbook Pro, instead of DVDs. When I said that I thought Apple had a point, they went nuts. Those of us with decent home theater setups understand that the remarkable visual and aural experience one gets from a BD seen in a decent home theater can't be duplicated on a laptop, or even come close to it. That led me to conclude, as Apple has, that putting BD players in its laptops need not be a high priority. Some of the guys, though, not to put too fine a point on it, disagreed robustly. :)
 
Yeah, there were a couple of threads over in the MacbookPro/Powerbook Forum where a number of posters thought that Apple was being irresponsible by not putting Blu-ray burners in the Macbook Pro, instead of DVDs. When I said that I thought Apple had a point, they went nuts. Those of us with decent home theater setups understand that the remarkable visual and aural experience one gets from a BD seen in a decent home theater can't be duplicated on a laptop, or even come close to it. That led me to conclude, as Apple has, that putting BD players in its laptops need not be a high priority. Some of the guys, though, not to put too fine a point on it, disagreed robustly. :)

BluRay isn't just to play back BluRay films, you can burn discs too with 25gb storage. That's probably why people want them in their computers (I'm one of them).
 
OK, so one night last week the weather was superb and the minute I walked in the door I knew that I wanted to sit out on my balcony and enjoy the warm air and the emergence of spring. I went into the the other room, disconnected the Magsafe from my first-gen MacBook Air, grabbed the mouse and mouse pad and set up the table on the balcony, firing up the MBA so that I could then relax and enjoy myself while catching up on emails and such. True, I wouldn't HAVE to have brought out the mouse and mousepad, as I can and do sometimes use my MBA's touchpad, but I still tend to prefer the mouse. Since I knew I wouldn't be out there all that long I figured I'd just run on battery and not worry about plugging in......

As I was doing all this prep, the thought kept going through my head, "wait until I've got the iPad!" With an iPad I can walk in the door, grab the iPad, step out on the balcony, sit down and as soon as I've touched the thing be ready to roll with my email and other stuff..... OK, fine, I probably won't be writing lengthy emails or responses to forum posts on the iPad if I'm just sitting out there with it, no dock or anything, but I'm sure I'll type at least short messages and I'll definitely enjoy the experience of not having to set anything up, just being able to get out there with it, press the home button and hop online, etc.

Only a week left now until I (and everyone else!) will know for sure just how our iPad experience is going to work for us.....

Do I think the iPad will totally replace my MBA or my MBP? No. I do think it will do some things very well so that I won't need to fire up one of those instead, and I'd be more inclined to tote it along in a bag with me when going out somewhere than I do even my MBA.

Just remains to be seen, this whole new device!
 
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