Counting Bars in Rap

Discussion in 'Digital Audio' started by GrandPhrase, Aug 4, 2014.

  1. GrandPhrase macrumors 6502

    Jun 16, 2012
    Hey, I have what it seems like a basic question, but I'm a bit confused...

    First of all, we can all agree that 80bpm and 160bpm are pretty much the same - it's just that the metronome clicks twice as fast (we may want to go double time for some reason such that it helps us play a certain melody better)

    So let's say that I rap the first verse of 16 bars and my friend raps the second verse of 16 bars at 80bpm on some melody.
    Then let's say that I rap those bars on that same melody at 160bpm (BUT please keep in note that the melody's tempo isn't just simply increased by changing the BPM value - I've re-recorded the melody at 160bpm so that the melody plays at the exact same speed at what it played at 80bpm). Also, I will rap at the same speed regardless of 80bpm or 160bpm, YET my friend doubles his rap speed when going from 80bpm to 160bpm.

    Will my rap verse still count as 16 bars or will it be 8 bars on 160bpm? What about my friend's verse?

    I apologize for my confusion, as well as if I have confused anyone else in my explanation.

    Thank you.

  2. ChrisA macrumors G4

    Jan 5, 2006
    Redondo Beach, California
    If going from 80bpm to 160bpm does not change the length of the track then you have changed the time signature.

    None of this make any sense at al unless you say if it is 4/4 2/2 or whatever it is.
  3. sahnert macrumors 6502

    Oct 20, 2003
    Correct, the way to figure out how many bars you are counting is to figure out how many beats are in a bar.

    As the OP said, 80 and 160bpm are essentially the same, as long as you are counting 2 clicks of the metronome for a bar of 80bpm and 4 clicks of the metronome for a bar of 160bpm.

    So to address the scenario of how many bars of rap verse, just agree on how many metronome clicks you will count as 1 bar. If you rap for, say, 16 clicks at 4 clicks per bar, then you have rapped for 4 bars.

    The speed you are rapping at does not make a difference as long as you are counting the same number of clicks per bar.
  4. GrandPhrase thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jun 16, 2012
    So the only thing that matters is the agreement of the metronome clicks per bar?

    So in other words I could rap real slow and have like a (just for example's sake) 8 line verse in theory while my friend has a 16 line verse as long as we agree on the clicks per bar?

    So we would both rap the same number of bars, but I would just have less words (which are also rapped slower) correct?

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