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I really miss my running.

Contrary to advice, after I have my back surgery, I will start walking again (ran my last marathon in May, haven't run since), and then transistion back into running by spring in order to train for next year's fall marathon schedule.

Also, after the surgery, I'm going back on a totally organic, all-natural diet.

They all tell me I can't run anymore, but I could not wake up tomorrow, so eff them. I've put on nearly fourty pounds in the last four months. My fighting weight is usually around 190. I was 230 at my pre-op physical Monday. :rolleyes:

Can't wait to be back on the Mall in DC on Sunday mornings!
 
Anyone here tried a vegan diet for losing weight? I've read that you can eat whatever you want if you eat that way and not gain weight.
 
MacLady said:
Anyone here tried a vegan diet for losing weight? I've read that you can eat whatever you want if you eat that way and not gain weight.

Bearing in mind you could technically drink a pint of vegetable oil, or eat 10 slices of fried bread and still remain vegan, I would probably think this to be not entirely true ;).
 
I'm 18 and I've lost so far lost 51lbs. (used to be 19 stone 5 pounds, now 15 stone 10 pounds).

I started off calorie controlled, but switched over to fat controlled and the weight fell off quicker. I don't feel calorie controlled is best. i.e. you can eat a 400 kcal meal which is 20 grams of fat, or a 400 kcal meal which is 4 grams of fat... get my drift? I'm not an expert on dieting, but I think you could say there is no relationship for fat counting towards calories and vice versa.

I eat about 2 grams of fat for breakfast, 3 for lunch and about 6 for dinner.

I would say the best things to eat are normal baked beans (extremely low in fat, filling and very high in fibre), wheatabix (low in fat, high in fibre) and most chicken dishes without the fatty sauces.

After losing 50 odd pounds you'd think I'd be more energetic - but I'm not, I feel sluggish in the mornings even after 12 hours sleep. I used to take a multivitamin, but not any more. I think I might start taking the tablets listed in the first post.

I actually don't eat many fruit and vegetables, maybe I should try having my 5 a day...

Just something to add - it's took me 7 months to lose this weight which is good as losing weight too fast is not particularly good. Also, if your cutting fat, don't cut your carbohydrates - fat provides double the amount of energy than carbohydrates, so don't cut them out or you will have no energy intake! (my chem teacher was the one who told me fat has twice the energy as carbohydrates... is he right?).
 
MacLady said:
Anyone here tried a vegan diet for losing weight? I've read that you can eat whatever you want if you eat that way and not gain weight.

LOL. That's about the biggest contradiction I've ever heard. Some vegan girl just freaked out on my wife today because she (my wife) was eating an egg salad sandwich. "What's that?!" "Gross, I don't eat chicken menstrations" "or chocolate, or meat, or cheese" I swear after living in ultra conservative MT, I'm in the freakin' twilight zone of hippieville. I told my wife I'd start sending her to work with any meat I could find and she could start chewing with her mouth open.

Let's see...where's a baby seal I can club... :rolleyes:
 
FearFactor47 said:
...... (my chem teacher was the one who told me fat has twice the energy as carbohydrates... is he right?).

Yes, he is.

1 gram fat = 9 kcal or "Calories"
1 gram Carb = 4 kcal
1 gram protein = 4 kcal

And you're right, if you're feeling sluggish, you should definitely add some veggies to your diet. The most important thing to a diet is to make sure you're getting nutrition. It's one thing to lose weight and look healthy. But if you're only eating protein or only carbs (no fat) or whatever, you're killing yourself just as you would by being overweight. It just won't be as sudden as a heart attack.
 
I've lost about a hundred plus pounds.. about 10 so far this year, and 90+ in the months between 01/2004 and 07/2004. I did it by simply making better choices in terms of macronutrients--meaning the three big ones, protein, carbohydrates, and fats. 30/55/15%, respectively--and by working out 3-5 times per week. (I blended 1-3 10minute bursts of cardio as warmups and cooldowns, and a barrage of weight-training, with a focus on heavy weights and fewer reps, but not quite to the point of powerlifting-training.)

Overall, there's tooooo much to respond to in this thread. But the one thing that worries me the most is how it's being hijacked by vegans/vegetarians. Take your campaign elsewhere, this should be just about weight loss. Dairy products and lean meats, when chosen wisely (and even organically, I agree) are huge resources for those trying to lose weight or gain muscle.
 
wongulous said:
I've lost about a hundred plus pounds.. about 10 so far this year, and 90+ in the months between 01/2004 and 07/2004. I did it by simply making better choices in terms of macronutrients--meaning the three big ones, protein, carbohydrates, and fats. 30/55/15%, respectively--and by working out 3-5 times per week. (I blended 1-3 10minute bursts of cardio as warmups and cooldowns, and a barrage of weight-training, with a focus on heavy weights and fewer reps, but not quite to the point of powerlifting-training.)

Overall, there's tooooo much to respond to in this thread. But the one thing that worries me the most is how it's being hijacked by vegans/vegetarians. Take your campaign elsewhere, this should be just about weight loss. Dairy products and lean meats, when chosen wisely (and even organically, I agree) are huge resources for those trying to lose weight or gain muscle.

WOW, that is awesome, your family and friends must be very proud of you and how hard you have worked to make such a life altering change. Hats off to ya!
:)
 
wongulous said:
But the one thing that worries me the most is how it's being hijacked by vegans/vegetarians. Take your campaign elsewhere, this should be just about weight loss.

what are you talking about? in the last 2-3 pages at least, there was one post about someone who knew a vegan and then one post making fun of vegans (which was offensive by the way).. someone's a little sensitive....

the best part is, no one said anything trying to convince someone to not eat meat/animals, just posed it as a way of losing weight. and yet someone took it upon themselves as a reason to attack veganism.
 
jelloshotsrule said:
what are you talking about? in the last 2-3 pages at least, there was one post about someone who knew a vegan and then one post making fun of vegans (which was offensive by the way).. someone's a little sensitive....

the best part is, no one said anything trying to convince someone to not eat meat/animals, just posed it as a way of losing weight. and yet someone took it upon themselves as a reason to attack veganism.

Well, I certainly hope you don't think I'm attacking veganism. I respect it fully. I have vegan and vegetarian friends. One of my best friends works for a vegan organic grocery store. I just happen to disagree with it.

It's probably an interesting enough topic, or argument at least, that it should be devoted its own thread. But this is about weight loss, and even just speaking about one's own progress is a form of advice and definitely an influence to those seeking to lose weight--and it's my general opinion that veganism, while definitely a disciplined and ethical way of life, and in some ways healthy, is not something that should be advised as a solution to someone seeking to change their body shape.

I meant (and mean) no harm by what I said or by any of this. Maybe you read too much into it by my use of "campaign"--but I meant it in terms of an informational campaign. Nothing political.

So anyway, back to weight loss. Thank you, stu. :) Everyone noticed a change and I got a lot of attention for it. It's totally turned my life around in many ways.
 
Lau said:
On a (marginally) more calorie friendly point, I believe wine (preferably red) is supposed to be the best thing to drink if you're on a diet. Has health benefits and suchlike*, and isn't as sugary and calorific as beer or mixers.

*Incidentally, if this is tre, I am so healthy :D

A glass of red wine each night is pretty good for you. But too much isn't good. It is just a healthy-er alcohol.

MacLady said:
Anyone here tried a vegan diet for losing weight? I've read that you can eat whatever you want if you eat that way and not gain weight.

Eh. No. Being a vegan doesn't automatically qualify you as healthier or not. I have a family member who is a vegan and he is in great shape-- but then again, I am too and I eat quite a bit of meat. I run on the cross-country team and I eat right. That's all it takes really. Another vegan family member nearly died because she said that she wanted only earth-based medicine... she gave that up fast however and stuck to being a vegan (and smoking :confused: )

The best way to stay in shape and loose weight: Eat less. Exercise more. Walk across the mall's parking lot instead of driving, the extra 5 minutes don't mean anything. (and the parking will kill the time gain) It takes ~15 minutes for your stomach to signal that it is full, so you can eat quite a bit less and still feel full.
 
jelloshotsrule said:
what are you talking about? in the last 2-3 pages at least, there was one post about someone who knew a vegan and then one post making fun of vegans (which was offensive by the way).. someone's a little sensitive....

the best part is, no one said anything trying to convince someone to not eat meat/animals, just posed it as a way of losing weight. and yet someone took it upon themselves as a reason to attack veganism.

I'll just go ahead and assume you're referring to my previous post. First, I was not making fun of vegans, I was stating that to say being vegan means you can eat whatever you want and be healthy is a contradiction--which it is. Vegans have a very strict diet and if you can committ to that, more power to you, I admire your perseverance.

Secondly, I did not attack all vegans, only the ONE that very rudely (and fairly disgustingly) tried to push her lifestyle on my wife. Those were actual quotes that girl screamed upon entering the lunchroom. Do I think this is representative of all vegans? Heck no. However, I do take offense to anyone that verbally abuses another (especially someone I love) simply because that person thinks they're better than everyone else.

As far as the hippie comment goes.... That stems from the fact that this girl is not the only one to criticize me or my family based soley on some aspect of our lives that shouldn't even matter. I actually come from an extremely conservative and downright bigotted state so much so that if you heard how casually racial/sexual/religious slurs were mentioned in everyday vernacular you'd probably explode. It's part of the reason we left. Since we've moved, however, it seems that we've come under such scrutiny from all of these activists shoving things down our throats and getting mad at us if we don't hop on their bandwagon.

Anyway, I changed "chick" to "girl" as I can see where that might be offensive. I was just hot as my wife had just told me of her day as I was typing something that would have been a bit more constructive (see previous posts). Also, I would like to assure everyone that no baby seals were harmed in any of my posts. ;)
 
FearFactor47 said:
I'm 18 and I've lost so far lost 51lbs. (used to be 19 stone 5 pounds, now 15 stone 10 pounds).

I started off calorie controlled, but switched over to fat controlled and the weight fell off quicker. I don't feel calorie controlled is best. i.e. you can eat a 400 kcal meal which is 20 grams of fat, or a 400 kcal meal which is 4 grams of fat... get my drift? I'm not an expert on dieting, but I think you could say there is no relationship for fat counting towards calories and vice versa.

I eat about 2 grams of fat for breakfast, 3 for lunch and about 6 for dinner.

I would say the best things to eat are normal baked beans (extremely low in fat, filling and very high in fibre), wheatabix (low in fat, high in fibre) and most chicken dishes without the fatty sauces.

After losing 50 odd pounds you'd think I'd be more energetic - but I'm not, I feel sluggish in the mornings even after 12 hours sleep. I used to take a multivitamin, but not any more. I think I might start taking the tablets listed in the first post.

I actually don't eat many fruit and vegetables, maybe I should try having my 5 a day... Also, if your cutting fat, don't cut your carbohydrates - fat provides double the amount of energy

Yeah, if you're living primarily on simple carbs your energy is going to peak a little while after a meal, then crash for the rest of the day until your next meal. (This is a primary concept of the Zone diet, and while I don't go along with the Zone thing, the reasoning behind the carb-sugar-insulin metabolism is persuasive. Read about it for that info, even if you don't plan to follow the diet)

Personally, I don't think severe fat restriction is the way to go -- your body needs fats, just as it needs protein and carbs. Fats aren't bad per se, it's just that it makes it easier to get too many calories with fats and oils, esp. in commercially prepared foods (not just deep fried, but lots of things you wouldn't associate with fats and oils, like commercial bran muffins). With too little fat, your body is hungry all the time.

What works for me is to get my fats from 'good' sources -- olive oil, flax oil, salmon, tuna, egg, cheese, nuts. I drink skim milk and eat lean cuts of chicken and beef but I'm not fanatic about animal fat -- simple saturated animal fats I think are still better for you than hydrogenated unsaturated fats in shortening, most margarines, and virtually all commercial baked goods.

I have cut out bread, cereals and baked goods; my carbs come from vegetables -- tomato salads, veg stir fry, spinach salad -- a good spinach salad with hardboiled egg or fish, sunflower seeds, feta cheese & parmesan. tossed with olive oil - that's filling and satisfying, great on fibre, veg, good fats and protein.

I make a protein-fibre drink from protein powder, flax seed, chia seed, and psyllium husk, ground up, and that in water swells up and gives me a 'full' feeling stomach, so I eat less during meals. I often add "greens" powder to that for extra nutrients, and unsweetened cranberry and blueberry juices for antioxidents.
 
Here's an update for me
Roughly 10 weeks ago, I weighed 306 pounds. I was having a difficult time losing the weight (my fault- I love to eat). So I went to a weight watchers meeting. The lady let me do an "unofficial" weigh-in. I weighed in at 306. This past week, I weighed in at 288. So I'm down 18 pounds in roughly 10 weeks. The final WW meeting is this week, but I'm going to sign up again. It seems to be working for me, so I will stick with it for a while. :)

How are the rest of you doing?
 
That is AWESOME! I am very proud of you, you obviously worked hard. Good job Rog!

I on the other hand have been reversing my previous trend of late. Training and lack of preperation has me eating poorly again.:mad: thanks for the update, and I know you have to be feeling a little more energy now too.
 
I feel your pain. I missed two meetings in a row, and I immediately went back to old eating habits. Bleh, guess I'm just weak. Stick with it though. You can do it. :)
 
Calories

this is really very good work
good that you lost your calories
it makes you so confident
now you can also go out cinfidently
even i was obese before
i got some good tips from a forum i joined two months ago
it is called http://www.imsickofbeingfat.com/*
i am an active member of the forum and i found the tips given by members very useful
 
I'm on day three of the "new me!"

I finally got the OK from the neurosurgeon to begin low impact cardio and lifting without any bending.

No caffeine, no alcohol, nothing with any artificial flavors, colors or preservatives and no eating after 7 p.m.

Been to the gym every day so far (and at 5 a.m. no less). Did my lifting regimen today, back to cardio tomorrow.

So far so good. 40 lbs to go. :eek:
 
Well, just like a bunch of NASA engineers cheering a launch...... GO>>>>GO>>>>GO>>>>GO!!!!!!

I have gained 8 back in my new job, not paying attention to eating while I work myself hard!:(
 
Well on June 4th I wieghed 220 pounds for the first time in my life, I was rapidly ballooning in to my first heart attack.

I said enough! (so did the Navy btw) And did the only thing I knew to do, count calories.

Physics 101, if I take in less calories than I use, I will use up my reserves to balance the equation. No *****! Today, after low but healthy calorie intake (many days at 800 calories or less) I am 187 pounds and falling. In 9 weeks I have lost 33#s!

I have more energy, more clothes (some are now falling off), more better times with the kids cause I'm not too tired to play.

I ate lots of fruit, took Bcomplex, a multi vitamin, a baby aspirin, 500mg C, omega3, and fiber supplements.

I feel great! and wanted to share my success. I am on the way to 165-175 pounds, nearly 50 pounds lighter, a 22% reduction in ME.

I wanted to share this, not as braging, but as hope. You see, it is one of the surest things in the universe. The sun will rise, apples fall to the ground (gravity), and less calories intake vs useage = wieght loss. It WILL work, It always will work, as long as you don't cheat yourself, lie to yourself, or kid yourself. The ONLY way it will not work is if you don't do it.

Good luck, and I applaud your efforts if you choose to try it.

Hi Stubeef,

I just registered today in order to reply to this thread and thank you personally for being the inspiration to my weight loss. I've been fairly hefty my entire life and at my pinnacle weighed 226lbs.

Here's a couple of 'before' pics. I weighed about 226 in these:

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Drinkin' a beer.

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Me eating a burrito with a powerglove. Don't ask :p

And after at 199lbs!

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Sorry I didn't comb my hair :(

I started your regime of an 800 cal diet in January, my eventual goal being 175lbs by May 1st. I'm not gonna lie, it wasn't easy. But I found that using www.fitday.com to keep track of my calorie intake helped a TON. Also, I took your advice of drinking a crap-ton of water a day as well as curbing my intake at 7:30pm.

But, I also deviated. Im finding myself getting pissed everyweekend, but to be honest, it's not holding me back and I'm still losing weight. The trick to staying on the bandwagon is to let yourself have those days during the week where you don't count the calories.

As a wicked-awesome bonus, Im getting a LOT more attention from the opposite sex now, which also attributes to the everyweekend piss-ups.

I just wanted to reiterate how happy I am to have been inspired by you, stu. You helped me get this way and I hope Karma is repays you tenfold. You changed my life.

Thanks
 
800 cal? wow I think I'd die if I ate so little. Anyway if we are showing before and after pictures. Sorry for the largish pics

Before:
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After
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I wasn't at my 'biggest' in that before pic though. I've lost about 27 kilos all up.
 
All these people loosing weight!!! You all are doing fantastic.

Here is a pic of me at about 180-190 lbs
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Hi Stubeef,

I just registered today in order to reply to this thread and thank you personally for being the inspiration to my weight loss. I've been fairly hefty my entire life and at my pinnacle weighed 226lbs.

Here's a couple of 'before' pics. I weighed about 226 in these:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/117035869_fd35aece9f.jpg
Drinkin' a beer.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/75/220189447_677adc0408.jpg
Me eating a burrito with a powerglove. Don't ask :p

And after at 199lbs!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/422317124_afe81cd643.jpg
Sorry I didn't comb my hair :(

I started your regime of an 800 cal diet in January, my eventual goal being 175lbs by May 1st. I'm not gonna lie, it wasn't easy. But I found that using www.fitday.com to keep track of my calorie intake helped a TON. Also, I took your advice of drinking a crap-ton of water a day as well as curbing my intake at 7:30pm.

But, I also deviated. Im finding myself getting pissed everyweekend, but to be honest, it's not holding me back and I'm still losing weight. The trick to staying on the bandwagon is to let yourself have those days during the week where you don't count the calories.

As a wicked-awesome bonus, Im getting a LOT more attention from the opposite sex now, which also attributes to the everyweekend piss-ups.

I just wanted to reiterate how happy I am to have been inspired by you, stu. You helped me get this way and I hope Karma is repays you tenfold. You changed my life.

Thanks

DUDE, you give me too many props!
As you know it is hard, you are the one that did it, no one else.
I am a lot older (46 now) and my metabolism is not that of a young one like yourself. I have been on the rollercoaster of weight loss for a few years now.
The real trick is to KEEP it off, to KEEP the good habits. I must admit I have not done real well with that.
Everything everywhere will tell you this is the wrong way to lose weight, so make a healthy transition so that I won't feel bad if you balloon up again.
You did great, look great, and it is good to have chicks digging you.
I must admit it was wild seeing this tread revived. and thanks for the nice words.

Job Well Done rhinez0r!!!!!!;)
 
Congratulations...I am glad to hear that u have lost so much of weight.....coz not many people achieve in it even though they try so hard and put in so much of effort to loose weight...I am happy for u ....u are a winner.
 
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