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Those monopolist bastards! :mad:

But seriously, the only *possible upside* I see from something like this, would be if it gave way to a ruling that somehow forced Apple to open up their OS to run on any machine.

That would be the death knell for Apple, but I can't say they wouldn't deserve it.

Even so, the affront to the ideal of freedom would certainly NOT be worth it.
Why would they 'deserve' it? Don't they control the right to make and distribute their product, their intellectual property, in a way they want? The market provides many choices for phones and OS's. Should The Gap have to sell clothes made by Eddie Bauer?
 
Part of the problem is what apps you can buy. Some venues are excluded by Apple based on either the rules, guidelines, or Apple's arbitrary decision. Have alternatives would be beneficial. As to the vetting / review / other, that can be part of the discussion on how these apps get certified "works on iDevices".
That's a different argument though.

Yes, Apple absolutely has a conflict of interest with their App store rules that gives anything Apple provides a competitive advantage.

But thats a different discussion all together.
 
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It's not the prices for consumers that sucks.

The things that suck are:
- If Apple's rules don't allow an app, you can't have that app. Sometimes Apple rejects an app for legal reasons, but often Apple rejects it for reasons like it competes with Apple's own apps, or moral reasons (Apple's moralities are not necessarily the same as yours), or security reasons.
- Limited communication between developers and consumers within the app store.
- No way to have proper demos (IE, Mario Run is plagued with 1 star reviews from people who only have the free demo.)
- $100 annual fee to distribute.

I have tons of apps that I write, but I'm unable to distribute, because I'm not willing to pay the annual fee and I don't want to pass on the fee to customers. Ideally, it'd be a small program that I'd just serve on my personal website.

Apple should handle this the exact same way as on macOS. Make it so there's a toggle in Settings that allows you to install apps from outside the App Store - IE, by mail or from websites.
 
So when some idiot downloads an app from "Bob's" App store and it steals all their financial information do they get to sue Apple for not preventing it?

No. Duh.

I say again, MONEY GRAB.

Yeah, by Apple.

You know what I recall? How long it took before Slingbox was willing to give Apple 30% for their video player, which for years they had always sold from their own website. You bought their hardware, you always went to their site to buy the remote control / player. They had zero problem with people finding them.

The Apple App Store is easier for small developers, but can be a money pit for larger ones.

It'll be interesting to see if major game makers jump into this.
 
A more correct analogy would be buying a Ford automobile and then only allowed to buy gasoline from Ford. I agree with this ruling.
If that gas from Ford was optimized for Ford leading to better gas mileage and lower emissions, and was sold at market value.... then you would not agree because you support the lawsuit.
 
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It's not like Apple is prohibiting anyone from buying Android Apps? I do not understand how this can possibly be seen as a monopoly. There are multiple alternatives to the App store, and nothing stopping one from using them, unless I am missing something?

Yeah, And I don't want Android crap apps showing in my App Store app, just the same way I don't want any dumb judge to make it easier for malware to run on my iOS device.

I wonder who was the ignorant-idiot who ruled in favor of this non-sense, ignoring all facts about security.
 
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If that gas from Ford was optimized for Ford leading to better gas mileage and lower emissions, and was sold at market value.... then you would not agree because you support the lawsuit.
Let's sue Tesla for Monopolizing their charging stations.
And let's sue Apple for not lettings us have our Hackintosh freely.
 
Most apps are free or very inexpensive. What competition are you talking about. If I look for a word in the app store, say "TAX" numerous apps come up. There is plenty of competition.


Show me one restaurant with free food.
Anti competitive also has to do with apps being banned due to their content. For example, there isn't a single app containing porn. Because Apple doesn't allow it.

Not advocating for porn apps, just saying, if the content doesn't align with apple's vision, it isn't allowed. And there's no real avenue without jaikbreak to achieve it.

The fact that various levels of competition exist within a storefront does also not imply that there aren't certain anti competitive actions in place. For what it's worth itnused to be much worse. For a while (still talking hears) Apple wouldn't let apps into the store that duplicated functionality already in iOS. For example a calculator. "We already have one! Denied".
 
If that gas from Ford was optimized for Ford leading to better gas mileage and lower emissions, and was sold at market value.... then you would not agree because you support the lawsuit.

If Ford gave me the option to buy better gas but didn't require it then I would agree with the practice. I don't have any special affinity toward lawsuits; but I do have an affinity against antitrust behavior.
 
The argument is that once a user buys a piece of hardware, they own that hardrware, not apple, and if they chose to install applications from a 3rd party, Apple should have no right to block them from doing so

I don't disagree with them. But I'm not convinced a lawsuit is the correct response here. If a company does something you fundamentally don't agree with, your best answer is to not purchase that product from them
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This must be the "JailBreaking" Community that initiated the suit.
 
"Censor" apps? That's like saying you should be allowed to sell things under the Wal-Mart banner in a competing space because the real stores don't carry adult magazines.

Expand your outlook. There have been many apps arbitrarily removed because Apple didn't like the functionality, or it mimicked an Apple function, or would mimic a future Apple function, or bled into the adult world, or...
It's a long list.
btw - Walmart does enforce censorship on some products.
 
A more correct analogy would be buying a Ford automobile and then only allowed to buy gasoline from Ford. I agree with this ruling.

No, the correct analogy would be the gasoline you're allowed to buy is not from Ford, but from a gigantic number of gasoline brands on Ford's stores. With a great amount of competition between brands.
 
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Let's sue Tesla for Monopolizing their charging stations.
And let's sue Apple for not lettings us have our Hackintosh freely.

you know, i really wish you'd think before making silly comment like this:

Because Tesla gave openly let anyone use the patents to build their own compatible charging stations. Which is exactly the opposite problem that you're trying to draw an analogy with.
 
Fast forward one year...

Lawsuit waged against Apple because apps purchased on other sites compromised their iPhones! It's Apple's fault!

It should come as no surprise that we are living in a world of predominately stupid people, but at least we have more data to back up that claim now. Actually the data is growing by the day...
 
I'd like the option to install an alternative OS on my iPhone. Then I can continue to leverage my iDevice hardware after Apple gives up on it... but the app store has free apps. I don't understand the damage being done, or to whom.

You know who has overpriced apps? TGI Fridays.
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This has "Jailbreak" written all over it.
 
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Yes, the problem with the App Store is that it's too expensive. Sure!

These people are ridiculous. If anything the App Store created a race to the bottom—the likes of which the software industry has never seen before! Loads of 99 cent crap and freemium garbage.

Yep, race to the bottom, and even screwing developers by tapping in 30% percent into their revenue of which before Apple did get nothing (e.g. coming form the Mac).
 
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