1583 on cable, if that helps you.
edit- changing the type of connection does change the speed reported... but that may be bacuse each is optimised for the named service....
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Cox Cable modem or SBC Yahoo DSL?
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1583 on cable, if that helps you.
edit- changing the type of connection does change the speed reported... but that may be bacuse each is optimised for the named service....
Had SBC DSL, got 900-1.3 all the time, always worked, never had a problem.
To the people saying you have to be within 1700 or 200 feet of the "transmission station." It is actually about 17,000-27,000 feet depending on the companies equipment. And the "transmission station" is actually the switch for the telco, just like the Ethernet switch at work, essentially.
Most houses in a midsize/moderate to large city are within 25,000 feet of a telco switch.,
To the people saying you have to be within 1700 or 200 feet of the "transmission station." It is actually about 17,000-27,000 feet depending on the companies equipment. And the "transmission station" is actually the switch for the telco, just like the Ethernet switch at work, essentially.
Most houses in a midsize/moderate to large city are within 25,000 feet of a telco switch.,
It looks like a 50 50 push on both cable and DSL.
All I can say is that the Mac users that I know that have asked me for help with help with their high speed access have all had an awful time with Cox.
See my second post on this thread about how some high speed providers Suck Cox. Better put, some high speed providers are Cox Suckers. (The singular word form spelled differently
)
I'm not trying to get banned with this one, but I have no love for the cable provider mentioned.
To the Mods or Admin: If I went a little too far with the pun let me know. Im not shooting to get banned. Especially just after I got my avatar.
All I can say is that the Mac users that I know that have asked me for help with help with their high speed access have all had an awful time with Cox.
See my second post on this thread about how some high speed providers Suck Cox. Better put, some high speed providers are Cox Suckers. (The singular word form spelled differently
)I'm not trying to get banned with this one, but I have no love for the cable provider mentioned.
To the Mods or Admin: If I went a little too far with the pun let me know. Im not shooting to get banned. Especially just after I got my avatar.
Re: Cox Cable modem or SBC Yahoo DSL?
Well, it is SBC, that should be a good enough reason to RUN!
Well, it is SBC, that should be a good enough reason to RUN!
That really is weird, on the bandwidth meter it is vastly different depending on what you choose. I have Mediacom with a SURFBoard 5100 and when I click the cable option, I consistantly get over 1500 every time, but if I click DSL I barely get 1000, and if I click wireless or WAN/LAN I get anywhere between 900-1400. Doesn't seem like it's a very scientific way of measuring your true bandwidth at all.
I used SBC DSL in Cali and now I use Cox Cable in NV... I find the Cox setup to be much faster than my DSL, and haven't had problems connecting mutiple computers... No passwords with Cox either... Much better article retention and selection of newsgroups on Cox so far also. SBC censored some groups, so they weren't available. I would recommend the cable connection from personal experience and satisfaction, however, your mileage may vary.
I concur. I subscribed to my Cox's cable modem service on the first day it was available. After completing the paperwork, the clerk handed me a box containing the cable modem, a signal splitter, and a length of Cat5 cable. I brought it home, connected it up, and turned it on. I set my TCP/IP to DHCP and I was on. No muss, no fuss. Had I been a Windows user, I would have been directed to buy a NIC downtown. Cox did not specifically "support" any particular platform. The company just provided the bare minimum equipment to get connected. That's all I needed. Worked great. Eventually, my provider switched to DOCSIS modems. My old modem was recalled and replaced by a Toshiba PCX1100U. Recently, Cox stated that it "supports" only Windows. However, the company has implemented nothing Windows-specific in its service. I have a connection. My connection works. There is no hassle at all. Within the past year or so, I bought a Siemans router. It has made my service even better. Cox provides full access to the newsgroups, email, the Web, everything that I can ask for. The company recently added Web mail. I know that Cox is something of a confederation of previously independent or smaller cable companies. Therefore the experiences of any one particular subscriber are not universal. However, my experience with Cox is pretty darned good.
Argh, didn't you get that form my post? OMG, that is nothing but a cheap advertising stunt, don't you get it? all bandwith testing is to send you a packet. BAM. How would you even know that those cnet servers are fast enough to compare? They are closer to someone, connection is faster, and so on.
Do you even know who C|Net is owned by? Blah
I gave a an example, Me and y friend live 1 mile away from each other. he has SBC yahoo (middle package) I have Comcast cable. MY actual download speed from most servers is around 300kbs+
His is only 140kbs using same type of computer, same system, same browser, downloading at the same time from the same servers. Don't you think I tested it before I got cable? I had the same question before i got cable. "DSL? OR CABLE?"
But then again, most people will just recommend what they use if it performs decently. So don't forget everyone here including me have bias
Cheers.
From a previous thread on the same topic.
Some more tests. They should spawn a new browser.
I really don't think that CNET is packet bending, mainly because the JAVA code that they use is licensed to all sorts of venders, and not all of them are on their site. I don't see how they could gain commission, beyond advertising. I also respect CNET, but they are a company, and I do think that there are humans involved, so perhaps things may not be on the level. They have blasted advertisers products, as well as heralded them.)
Above are a number of different tests. Try them all, arrive and you should get a more reliable benchmark. Again keep in mind that localized traffic (both physical and temporal) will change the results. So do good science and minimize the variables.
Back on topic- I hope we here the final decision from the thread starter.
Some more tests. They should spawn a new browser.
1.) Small data test. Fast by Eircom.net
2.) Large data graphics- by Eircom.net (odd pictures)
3.) Toast.nets multi stream test. Like aSwiss Army .
4.) Similar to the CNET test.
5.) Another Java test , but not area code or zip code required.
I really don't think that CNET is packet bending, mainly because the JAVA code that they use is licensed to all sorts of venders, and not all of them are on their site. I don't see how they could gain commission, beyond advertising. I also respect CNET, but they are a company, and I do think that there are humans involved, so perhaps things may not be on the level. They have blasted advertisers products, as well as heralded them.)
Above are a number of different tests. Try them all, arrive and you should get a more reliable benchmark. Again keep in mind that localized traffic (both physical and temporal) will change the results. So do good science and minimize the variables.
Back on topic- I hope we here the final decision from the thread starter.
i did it. i just ordered cox cable here in orange county. they gave me a good deal! free cable modem and installation plus $10 off my cable bill every month. i'm looking at it as i'm paying $29.95 for cable modem because of this $10 off. i also get a 30 day money back guarantee if i'm not happy. pretty darn good deal! i couldn't resist...thanks for all your feedback, it helped me alot! hopefully i can start posting here at broadband speed...lol...thanks again! now, i'm trying to decide on a router...hmmm...hehe...
Originally posted by Eniregnat
From a previous thread on the same topic.
Some more tests. They should spawn a new browser.
1.) Small data test. Fast by Eircom.net
2.) Large data graphics- by Eircom.net (odd pictures)
3.) Toast.nets multi stream test. Like aSwiss Army .
4.) Similar to the CNET test.
5.) Another Java test , but not area code or zip code required.
I really don't think that CNET is packet bending, mainly because the JAVA code that they use is licensed to all sorts of venders, and not all of them are on their site. I don't see how they could gain commission, beyond advertising. I also respect CNET, but they are a company, and I do think that there are humans involved, so perhaps things may not be on the level. They have blasted advertisers products, as well as heralded them.)
Above are a number of different tests. Try them all, arrive and you should get a more reliable benchmark. Again keep in mind that localized traffic (both physical and temporal) will change the results. So do good science and minimize the variables.
Back on topic- I hope we here the final decision from the thread starter.
Well, on all the tests you have offered, they all show that speed is off the chart. So either those tests suck, or conenction is good.
But somehow i feel something is wrong with the tests...
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Definitely get a router with a firewall built-in. Does the speed degrade, no; you still have the same connection coming in. If you already have cable, a cable modem is an option, if you don't they usually charge extra. Typically, cable modem service is a month-to-month service; DSL typically wants you to sign a one-year agreement. Not to mention having to deal with the phone company.
Router: 802.11b or 802.11g?
since this question is related and i didn't want to start a new thread, i'd like to know if i will benefit from an 802.11b router rather than an 802.11g? i know the 802.11g offers 54Mbps, so i'm wondering why would one want to go w/ this for cable/dsl connections as well as networking/file sharing between 2 macs? will i benefit w/ the 802.11g or will an 802.11b router be fast enough? thanks alot for any comments, suggestions!
since this question is related and i didn't want to start a new thread, i'd like to know if i will benefit from an 802.11b router rather than an 802.11g? i know the 802.11g offers 54Mbps, so i'm wondering why would one want to go w/ this for cable/dsl connections as well as networking/file sharing between 2 macs? will i benefit w/ the 802.11g or will an 802.11b router be fast enough? thanks alot for any comments, suggestions!
Your only as fast as your slowest link.
For computer to computer, if one of your computers is 11b then the system will be no faster than 11b. For DSL (or any internet subscription), you will only benefit from 11g if you can get that bandwidth or better from your provider.
11g also seems to suffer more from interference and has a shorter range, but the off the shelf tuned antennas seem to do more for 11g. I have an older iBook, so 11b is the best I can do. Also, 11g is backwards compatible with 11b. If your entire system is 11g, you will notice. About double the speed. All of this is from what I have seen and experienced.
For computer to computer, if one of your computers is 11b then the system will be no faster than 11b. For DSL (or any internet subscription), you will only benefit from 11g if you can get that bandwidth or better from your provider.
11g also seems to suffer more from interference and has a shorter range, but the off the shelf tuned antennas seem to do more for 11g. I have an older iBook, so 11b is the best I can do. Also, 11g is backwards compatible with 11b. If your entire system is 11g, you will notice. About double the speed. All of this is from what I have seen and experienced.
Re: Router: 802.11b or 802.11g?
802.11g is backward compatible with 802.11b. So, your 802.11b cards will work just fine with your 802.11g router. If you have a PowerBook or PowerMac with Airport Extreme, then definitely go with 802.11g. If you are a Windows Weenie, then it is going to be a while yet before 802.11g is widely available. You might be able to go with 802.11b and wait for 802.11g. On the other hand, you can future-proof yourself with 802.11g now. When it is widely adopted, you will already be there.
oops, sorry forgot to mention my machines: i have an emac 1ghz as well as a powermac g4 1ghz. both will accept an airport extreme card. so i understand now if i wanted to share/transfer files, printers, i would benefit from an 11g router but as far as a cox cable modem connection goes, 11g speed i will not benefit from because the max download/upload for cable modem is 3Mbps correct? also, will i need airport cards or can i just connect via ethernet to the router? thanks again!
dslreports.com
dslreports.com has an extensive database of customer comments and complaints from pretty much EVERY service available. This is nice because not only will you get reviews of, say, SBC... You'll get reports from users using SBC from many locations, and most likely in your city. This is nice as service varies a lot from location to location
I have SBC and love it. I have had one hour of downtime in 9 months..... literally.
I get the full bandwidth they offer me and my modem has not dropped my connection in over 4 months. However, some people have had bad locations in different areas. I would suggest you look up your area at dslreports.com
dslreports.com has an extensive database of customer comments and complaints from pretty much EVERY service available. This is nice because not only will you get reviews of, say, SBC... You'll get reports from users using SBC from many locations, and most likely in your city. This is nice as service varies a lot from location to location
I have SBC and love it. I have had one hour of downtime in 9 months..... literally.
I get the full bandwidth they offer me and my modem has not dropped my connection in over 4 months. However, some people have had bad locations in different areas. I would suggest you look up your area at dslreports.com