Crap! How to sync music after Apple Music?

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  1. yalag macrumors 65816

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    I have a large collection of music that I have in iTunes. I've always synced them to my iphone and my wife's iphone.

    We started using Apple Music and all of a sudden I can't sync music from iTunes. Help!
     
  2. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

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    Have you tried syncing it with your iCloud account?
     
  3. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    How would I do that? And also, what does that mean? Do I have to upload all my songs to icloud??
     
  4. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    No one else using apple music? I can't believe it
     
  5. flur macrumors 68000

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    You probably have already uploaded your songs to the cloud without even realizing it. If you've updated your iTunes to the new version, there's a pop-up (for most people) that asks if you want to use iCloud Music Library. If you said yes to that (or if you didn't get a pop-up at all), your computer jumped in and uploaded/matched everything in iTunes to the cloud. To access that stuff on your phone, just enable viewing of cloud music (there's a toggle in the search in the library view on your phone) and select the songs/album that you want to download to your phone.

    If you have NOT already upgraded iTunes and/or enabled iCloud Music Library on your computer, know that it has FUBARed many people's libraries and personal music files, so be sure to make and keep a good backup of all your music (not just your iTunes library) before you upgrade and/or turn it on.

    The other option is to turn off iCloud Music Library on your phone and sync the usual way, but this severely limits what you can do with Apple Music. That said, it is the option many of us are taking because of all the issues/bugs with iCloud Music Library.
     
  6. Chundles macrumors G4

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    You don't.

    If you're using iCloud Music Library (which is on by default with Apple Music) then any music you load on your computer can be downloaded to your phone. No more syncing required.
     
  7. WJKramer macrumors 6502

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    Turn off iCloud music library......You can't sync between iTunes and iOS with it turned on. I have had nothing but problems with iML. Permanently turned off on all devices for now.
     
  8. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Ok this sounds like a dream, until you have two users, like me and my wife. How does it work then?
     
  9. flur macrumors 68000

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    Both on the same account? You put all your music in the cloud and download what you each want on your respective devices.
     
  10. turbineseaplane, Jul 11, 2015
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    It will also come with a couple interesting new features like:

    1. Randomly new metadata for your songs...which keeps things interesting
    2. Impossible to decipher downloaded or not song status....for fun guessing games on the road
     
  11. memo90061 macrumors regular

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    I can't sync my music either!! I also ran out of data, and I can't play them when I'm out of the house. -_-
     
  12. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    We have different iCloud account
     
  13. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    Ever heard of the "show music available offline" toggle?
     
  14. turbineseaplane macrumors 68020

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    Ever heard about all of us that got our metadata nuked by iCloud music library?
     
  15. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    I was not even talking about the metadata...
     
  16. flur macrumors 68000

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    Then each would upload their own music to their own account and download what they want onto their devices from the cloud.
     
  17. rwilliams macrumors 68040

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    To manually put songs on your iPhone from iTunes, you have to disable iCloud Music Library on your iPhone in Settings -> Music. Otherwise you'll keep getting a popup error message in iTunes. Once you've copied the music to your phone, you can enable iCloud Music Library again.
     
  18. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Are there any good way of doing this? Say I have a 100GB of music library. Do I just copy it and make it a 200GB library for 2 icloud accounts? And then each time I add a song to the library, I do it to both library?
     
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    I think the family share plan for Apple Music lets you share the same library between two accounts. (I could be wrong though, I never looked into the exact details of the family share plan.)
     
  20. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I haven't found anything in family sharing related to this? Anyone else got a solution?

    It just doesn't make too much sense duplicating my music library just so I can have two users sync with the same library...
     
  21. Primejimbo, Jul 12, 2015
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    No, doesn't work.. I have tried before I came up with the fix below in the post.

    My wife and I have the same issues and I found a work around.

    Now I do have my iTunes library on an external drive, but I think you can do this another way. We use a Mac Mini for all our media, and it's shared.

    I made an account/user for my wife on the Mac Mini. From there I connected her iTunes to the same iTunes library as before, now the music is shared on both sides. My wife's side is just for this purpose, and it works. Now she has all the music available on her iTunes account and no issues. There are tons of articles about how to share 1 iTunes library on multiple user accounts on the same computer. The way I did it is probably not the correct way, but I was able to do it this way.

    I said this in another thread, but apple needs to make iTunes a family sharing "hub" for situations like this. So many people/families use the same iTunes for their devices.
     
  22. Poob Bubes macrumors 6502a

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    I did the same but I pointed my wife's library to a copy of our library so we each have the same initial starting library but can customize from that point on to match our individual tastes. Now I can finally prune out tons of music I've added for her over the years that doesn't really catch my interest.
     
  23. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Can you clarify on your situation? How did you "connect" her iTunes to the same iTunes library without duplicating the whole library?

    Do you literally mean, just put the itunes library in an external drive and open it up with iTunes from her computer account? Does that actually work? Does that mean you have to make sure only one user is opening it at a time?

    I would be surprised that would work, because aren't you going to be writing user specific data to the library?
     
  24. Primejimbo, Jul 12, 2015
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    EDIT: Not working like I have planned. I added some moves and they don't show up on my wife's side. But this is a start.

    It works and works great. You can have the library on an external drive and network it too. The other cool part is all her stuff is set to her (shows stuff she's made off line, her likes, and her tastes).

    Only one user can be on the computer anyways.

    May articles out there how to move your library to an external drive, and here is one:
    http://www.imore.com/how-move-your-itunes-library-external-drive

    Now how I did it, please note, I don't think this is the offial way

    Use an USB drive and copy the file (.itl file) and copy it to the USB drive (it was somewhere under music, iTunes, and in that folder)
    Make a account/user for your wife on the computer
    Plug the USB port in and move .itl file to someplace on the computer (I just put it on the desktop)
    Hold down option and open iTunes
    This will ask you to open another iTunes library and select open other library (I think that was the wording)
    It will asked you to select a library, click on the .itl file and iTunes will load
    Sign into her account.

    Now I haven't added any music to the library since this, so that will be the next test.

    I bet there is an official way to do this, but people have an external hard drive with the iTunes library on it connected to a router. This lets anyone on the network access the library, so this can be done.

    Another article that did help me with ideas
    http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/ar...g-itunes-libraries-between-two-user-accounts/
     
  25. yalag thread starter macrumors 65816

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    So if I understood you correctly you basically have both users open the same library (one at a time). I would assume then that you both share the exact same playlists etc? If so, have you tested iCloud music library from both sides? They get uploaded to both sides?

    Alternatively the link you gave seems to suggest another option. Which is to have a separate library all together but import the same media files. I don't see how that would work though because iTunes does not "reference" music files. It copies it I believe.
     

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