Crash crash boom. Now I remember what it was like to be a windows user

[pdpardue]

I just did an upgrade from tiger and have had no issues at all. Guess I am one of the lucky ones. A few questions:

1. Have you done repair and verify permissions from the DVD?
2. Do you have any 3rd party apps that could be causing the problem?
3. Hacked any part of your OS?
4. Did you try downloading OnyX? Great program!
5. Using cheap RAM? Take out your RAM and reinstall the RAM that came with your computer.

Hope this helps you...

1. No, have from disk utility in leopard
2. no
3. not had time, and no.
4. Have the tiger version, haven't tried the newest. Suggestions for use?
5. Stock ram

 

[HLdan]

If many of us DO have issues with Leopard, then what does that tell you? You've got to be blind, stupid, have your head in the sand or be some sort of Leopard issue denialist to think every thing's fine with Leopard...it just isn't - a 5 second look at this very forum proves that beyond all doubt.

Even IF you try to write it off as something to do with 3rd party applications - how and why should installing something else cause a crash in an Apple application, on an Apple OS, on Apple hardware. People pay 50% premiums for Apple hardware for the explicit reason of avoiding this sort of crap.

Well done to you for having a lovely stable experience with Leopard - I envy you that - but I'll not have some smug apple fan boy try and blame users for OS issues - that's simply moronic and you do neither yourself or Apple any favors like that.

Doug

Your post is completely idiotic! I stand by what I said earlier, if many of us are not having problems with Leopard then what does that mean? It means were doing something right here. Am I suppose to feel bad because I can't be part of the crowd that's having issues? Something somewhere is not right for the people that are having issues. It amazes me that you blame only the OS as if the user couldn't possibly be the culprit.
We are ALL using Apple's computers and the same OS so it stands to reason that the people with good experiences are not just having good experiences by luck. Get your head out your a$$.

 

[DoFoT9]

to the OP: i have the same computer as you (2gb RAM) and it is running PERFECTLY... i do not have one single problem, nearly a month uptime, running 2 parallel machines, transfering files, making HD movies with imovie etcetcetc. nothing crashes.. its perfect.

i am running 10.5.0.. maybe 10.5.1 has a small problem???

 

[djellison]

It amazes me that you blame only the OS as if the user couldn't possibly be the culprit. .

It amazes me that you blame the users as if the OS couldn't possibly be the culprit. By your argument, Leopard is 100% perfect, no bug or error can be anything other than the fault of the User and if anything goes wrong then it's the users fault. I'll give you just one little example. There's LOTS of reports of keyboards locking up for a minute or so, for a short while. New mac users with BRAND NEW hardware and OSX installs, experienced users suggesting the use of external keyboards etc. This isn't a user issue - this is a widely accepted problem with OSX. There are many others - take 5 seconds to look around this very forum - if you don't accept this sort of problem, might I suggest that the reality check is required by you rather than anyone else.

Doug

 

[Yuppi]

Did you update the icons in your dock?
Because that was my problem when I did an upgrade & install. All applications that were renewed by leopard still had the tiger reference in the dock. If you thus tried to start one of them they crashed.
Remove all icons from your dock and replace them with the apps from the application folder. Maybe that helps.

 

[kaiwai]

So, I installed Leopard the other night, on my gen one MBP. 2.16 Dual core intel 1 GB Ram, in case you care. installed via archive and install. Upgraded to 10.5.1 immediately.

My first impressions had been positive, spaces rocks my socks, spotlight is lighting quick, haven't used time machine yet.

Now, I'm finding it ANNOYING. I feel like a windows user from years ago, maybe worse. I have problems with programs crashing like mad crazy. Even apple apps like safari and ical crash crazy.

In the few days since I've installed, I've had safari, ical, ichat, system pref, painter, msn messenger, and itunes et cetera all crash on me; sometimes repeatedly. I can't open terminal at all. Obviously I haven't fully tested all my software but this is starting to piss me off. I am now (as many others) starting to hate the transparent menu bar, I keep wanting to drag my windows higher only to realize that the menu bar is there but feels like empty space to me.

I haven't felt this frustrated with my computer since I was using windows. I don't have an external drive I can use to back up my user files, otherwise I would do a clean install and dump everything back over.

Anyone have any suggestions?

It screams of two problems - bad memory. Bad memory doesn't always result in kernel panics, it can result in unexpected application behaviour. The second can be because of 'bad settings' but given that you did the prudent thing of 'clean install', it might be bad settings.

I am assuming you're not stupid enough to do upgrades or archive/install.

 

[pdpardue]

It screams of two problems - bad memory. Bad memory doesn't always result in kernel panics, it can result in unexpected application behaviour. The second can be because of 'bad settings' but given that you did the prudent thing of 'clean install', it might be bad settings.

I am assuming you're not stupid enough to do upgrades or archive/install.

Memory is fine, how would upgrading from a perfectly running Tiger set up into leopard suddenly also result in bad memory.

Yes, I was stupid enough to do a archive/install.

I have however since trashed my preferences and thus far things seem to be working fine.

 

[Hawkeye411]

I had a bunch of weird problems and a fresh, clean install fixed everything.