I tried embedding this question in the threads about the new releases, but it's pretty clear it will just be buried in the other kinds of discusssions. If anyone has updated to iTunes 8.0 and found that it stopped their third party applications from crashing, I would be eager to see their report here. It seems possible that it will fix the crashes, given that downgrading from 7.7.1 to 7.7 does cure the crashes. That seems to imply that iTunes is the main issue, but it would be useful to know for sure before too many of us down-graders try it. TIA! To answer my own question, I uninstalled all apps, updated to iTunes 8.0. Things seemed fine for a awhile, but after loading one updat directly to the phone, all third party application are now crashing. It may be poor form, but I am going to put this as a new post at the end of the thread. Maybe I can save some others some grief.