Crazy Active & Resting Calories Counts! Apple Watch Series 4 Nike+

kh3khalid

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Hello all,

I’ve been facing issues with my AW S4 Nike+. The resting and most importantly active calories counts are crazy high.

I’ve been sick in the past couple of days and haven’t been working out and stayed in bed all day (only went to the hospital at noon) and the active calories count is 765! Total is 4,232! Also says that I exercised for 10mins.

I mean if I’m burning this much calories with minimal activity I wouldn’t need to lose weight :)

I went to the Apple Store a week ago and got the watch replaced and still facing the same issue.

I’m running the lastet iOS (iPhone X) and the latest WatchOS.

Anyone else facing the same issue?
Any suggestions about a fix?

Thanks.
 

keysofanxiety

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Possibly your heart rate has shot right up if you've had a fever, so it's detecting the calories burned as higher?
 

kh3khalid

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Possibly your heart rate has shot right up if you've had a fever, so it's detecting the calories burned as higher?
I’ve been facing this issue since I got it two weeks ago. This is the second watch (I got one replaced). faced the same with both.

What are the chances that the replacement is also faulty?

Or does their formula go crazy with obese people? It shouldn’t and I highly doubt that.
 

Ghost31

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Possibly your heart rate has shot right up if you've had a fever, so it's detecting the calories burned as higher?
Hundreds of calories? Uh....no. That would probably bring you near death. Your heart shouldn’t be working THAT hard

And to the OP: this is a known issue since watch os 5 first came out. The resting calories as well as active calories are completely screwed up. In the intitial watch os 5, everything was messed up for a lot of people. People were filling their exercise rings just sitting down. Then apple issued the update 5.0.1 that fixed the exercise rings filling up, but now the resting calories and move ring are still screwed up. Supposedly this is fixed in 5.1. We’re on the fourth beta of that one, so hopefully the official release is soon.

There are threads with others echoing your same concerns so you’re definitely not alone

https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch...ing_calorie_accuracy/?st=JNGKYQ2C&sh=3f83eec8

The relatively good news is that although my total daily calories is screwed up and completely worthless right now, the workout tracking is dead on. I went to the gym yesterday and everything was on point
 

anthonymoody

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My S4 gives 10% greater distance. Someone suggested resetting the fitness calibration (Apple Watch app on phone, privacy, reset). I’m giving it a try.
 

nicho

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Or does their formula go crazy with obese people? It shouldn’t and I highly doubt that.
Since you have the same problem with a replacement, it's more likely that than a faulty unit.

Have you checked your weight? Could you have inputted your weight in lbs as your weight in kg, thus making you seem 120% heavier?

Not sure what formula Apple uses to calculate resting calories exactly, but if you made that mistake in the Harris-Benedict Equation, someone who was 100kg, 180cm and 40 years old would go from 2064 to 3672 per day, 77% higher than usual.
 
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kh3khalid

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Hundreds of calories? Uh....no. That would probably bring you near death. Your heart shouldn’t be working THAT hard

And to the OP: this is a known issue since watch os 5 first came out. The resting calories as well as active calories are completely screwed up. In the intitial watch os 5, everything was messed up for a lot of people. People were filling their exercise rings just sitting down. Then apple issued the update 5.0.1 that fixed the exercise rings filling up, but now the resting calories and move ring are still screwed up. Supposedly this is fixed in 5.1. We’re on the fourth beta of that one, so hopefully the official release is soon.

There are threads with others echoing your same concerns so you’re definitely not alone

https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch...ing_calorie_accuracy/?st=JNGKYQ2C&sh=3f83eec8

The relatively good news is that although my total daily calories is screwed up and completely worthless right now, the workout tracking is dead on. I went to the gym yesterday and everything was on point

So Apple actually addressed this in 5.1 or you’re just assuming that they definitely are fixing it?

I’m thinking of returning mine and getting a refund if they’re not fixing it in 5.1 for sure because it’s really annoying.
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Since you have the same problem with a replacement, it's more likely that than a faulty unit.

Have you checked your weight? Could you have inputted your weight in lbs as your weight in kg, thus making you seem 120% heavier?

Not sure what formula Apple uses to calculate resting calories exactly, but if you made that mistake in the Harris-Benedict Equation, someone who was 100kg, 180cm and 40 years old would go from 2064 to 3672 per day, 77% higher than usual.
Yeah I’m sure about the units I double and triple checked before.

If their formula is the reason then it’s pretty silly of them to make this mistake considering that many buy the watch to help in losing weight.
 

Ghost31

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My 3.2 mile walk is once again 3.2 miles after resetting the fitness calibration. Weird.
Nice. I tried the same resetting calibration again too and unfortunately for my problem and the crazy active/move calories, it still didn’t fix it. Says I burned 3000 calories stating home doing nothing. So my fitness tracker is basically gimped right now. Poo

And to the OP: yes I saw somewhere I think on reddit that someone updated to 5.1 and it fixed our problem. So here’s hoping we get an update next week
 

Julien

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OP Did you check to be sure your weight is not set too high or you are very heavy. Calories are relative and 4K a day could happen to someone that is sedentary that weighs about 300 Lbs. If you have your weight set too high even a moderate HR increases could be seen as "Activity".
 

Ghost31

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OP Did you check to be sure your weight is not set too high or you are very heavy. Calories are relative and 4K a day could happen to someone that is sedentary that weighs about 300 Lbs. If you have your weight set too high even a moderate HR increases could be seen as "Activity".
To burn 4000 calories while relatively inactive you’d have to be 400+ lbs. I don’t know op’s weight, but I’m not 400 lbs. or even 300. And yet I have crazy high calories burned since watch os 5
 

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My health figures have been off since 5 and 5.1. No doubt the a logarithm was off. On 5 it was very bad, 5.1 toned it down some but I am maintaining a record activity streak since putting on my AW4.

It has made me lose a lot faith in the health numbers if Apple lets them go crazy. Disappointed and just use the number for reference to compare day to day.
 
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jucesanc

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I'm having similar issues to many people here. I'm 29 yo, male, 250 lbs. Work in an office setting, and workout for typically an hour in the evening. On a typical day like this, I'll get a total calorie count of 4,000+ calories. Seems way off to me.. My weight is entered in lbs. Not sure what else to try... should I reset the fitness calibration data? It warns me that I'll get less accurate workouts.
 

Ghost31

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I'm having similar issues to many people here. I'm 29 yo, male, 250 lbs. Work in an office setting, and workout for typically an hour in the evening. On a typical day like this, I'll get a total calorie count of 4,000+ calories. Seems way off to me.. My weight is entered in lbs. Not sure what else to try... should I reset the fitness calibration data? It warns me that I'll get less accurate workouts.
So I was in this thread last year complaining about the crazy numbers and I've had time to kinda...try them out and see if they're accurate. It seems that watch os 5 may have made the calorie burns MORE accurate. So if you're seeing 4,000 calories, it may be true. How tall are you?
 

tl01

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I'm having similar issues to many people here. I'm 29 yo, male, 250 lbs. Work in an office setting, and workout for typically an hour in the evening. On a typical day like this, I'll get a total calorie count of 4,000+ calories. Seems way off to me.. My weight is entered in lbs. Not sure what else to try... should I reset the fitness calibration data? It warns me that I'll get less accurate workouts.
Reset the calibration...it made a big difference for me!
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Hello all,

I’ve been facing issues with my AW S4 Nike+. The resting and most importantly active calories counts are crazy high.

I’ve been sick in the past couple of days and haven’t been working out and stayed in bed all day (only went to the hospital at noon) and the active calories count is 765! Total is 4,232! Also says that I exercised for 10mins.

I mean if I’m burning this much calories with minimal activity I wouldn’t need to lose weight :)

I went to the Apple Store a week ago and got the watch replaced and still facing the same issue.

I’m running the lastet iOS (iPhone X) and the latest WatchOS.

Anyone else facing the same issue?
Any suggestions about a fix?

Thanks.
What does the watch say your heart rate has been? Is it higher than normal? Yes
 

jucesanc

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So I was in this thread last year complaining about the crazy numbers and I've had time to kinda...try them out and see if they're accurate. It seems that watch os 5 may have made the calorie burns MORE accurate. So if you're seeing 4,000 calories, it may be true. How tall are you?
I'm 6' tall. Typical workout for me is a cardio workout where I do 30 min on treadmill and run about 2 miles, and 30 min on stairmaster with varying speed. Or I do an hour of strength training. I use MyFitness pal to track calories, but usually those are just estimates. By my estimates, I eat about 2,500 calories on a typical day, and about 3,000 on a high day.

I reset the calibration over the weekend, and seems like the count is going down but still pretty high. I got 3,900 calories burned for saturday and sunday with an hour of cardio, and lounging the rest of the day..
 

Ghost31

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I'm 6' tall. Typical workout for me is a cardio workout where I do 30 min on treadmill and run about 2 miles, and 30 min on stairmaster with varying speed. Or I do an hour of strength training. I use MyFitness pal to track calories, but usually those are just estimates. By my estimates, I eat about 2,500 calories on a typical day, and about 3,000 on a high day.

I reset the calibration over the weekend, and seems like the count is going down but still pretty high. I got 3,900 calories burned for saturday and sunday with an hour of cardio, and lounging the rest of the day..
So if you put your numbers into a tdee calculator, you come out to numbers similar to what you’re getting.

For what it’s worth, those numbers might SEEM crazy, but if you’re overweight they’re not. Since your body is larger, it requires more calories to maintain all that mass and to propel it forward during activities. I’m overweight too and just sitting at home doing nothing I burn about 3000 calories. On days I work I burn about 3500
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I'm 6' tall. Typical workout for me is a cardio workout where I do 30 min on treadmill and run about 2 miles, and 30 min on stairmaster with varying speed. Or I do an hour of strength training. I use MyFitness pal to track calories, but usually those are just estimates. By my estimates, I eat about 2,500 calories on a typical day, and about 3,000 on a high day.

I reset the calibration over the weekend, and seems like the count is going down but still pretty high. I got 3,900 calories burned for saturday and sunday with an hour of cardio, and lounging the rest of the day..
When you go to the gym, do you start a workout on your watch? How many calories does it say you burn just for the workouts?
 

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jucesanc

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So if you put your numbers into a tdee calculator, you come out to numbers similar to what you’re getting.

For what it’s worth, those numbers might SEEM crazy, but if you’re overweight they’re not. Since your body is larger, it requires more calories to maintain all that mass and to propel it forward during activities. I’m overweight too and just sitting at home doing nothing I burn about 3000 calories. On days I work I burn about 3500
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When you go to the gym, do you start a workout on your watch? How many calories does it say you burn just for the workouts?
Yes. I’ll use the Apple Watch workout app to track my workouts. Today I did 40 min on treadmill and the app recorded 750 calories total and 650 calories active, with an average bpm of 151.
 

Ghost31

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Yes. I’ll use the Apple Watch workout app to track my workouts. Today I did 40 min on treadmill and the app recorded 750 calories total and 650 calories active, with an average bpm of 151.
Here’s where you can get a rough idea of calorie burns

http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html

Thing is though when you go to the gym and do workouts, the calories you burn there get added to your daily number of calories your body is burning by itself. So if being sedentary you’re burning 3000 calories but you burn 800 at the gym, you’re at about 4000 calories total for that day which is totally understandable.

I use my fitness pal and this stuff can get a bit confusing at first. Especially when you set your activity level on fitness pal and then ADD extra exercise calories on top of that. I used to set my activity level as sedentary and then add exercise calories from workouts on top of that but really. All that matters is you look at your daily total calories from apple waych and deduct from there. Well for me anyway.

If I burn 3000 calories, I eat 2000
 
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