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I plan to buy the M4 512GB drive and replace my current hard disk in my 13" MBP early 2011.

1) Should I get the one with the transfer kit or is that not needed?
2) If answer to #1 is "not needed", then how do you do the initial formatting of the drive once it is installed in the laptop?
3) Assuming the answer to #2 is that it's not a big deal (ie. pretty simple), then how do I get the new SSD functioning like the drive it replaced? I would assume this is done via a backup of the original drive and then a restoration to the new SSD, but is there something special as far as the type of backup that needs to be done? Do I just do a standard time machine backup or is there a special "cloning" type of backup that I need to do?
4) Should I first install Lion to the new SSD before I do the restoration, or will the restoration take care of getting the new drive off and running?
 
Just curious to know how those who installed crucial (or even samsung) ssds deal with the trim problem. Depending on the drive model, it's not so obvious whether you need to use it or not. In theory you need trim, but some of the newer models apparently have internal mechanisms that deal with GC independently without needing any OS assistance. I'm wondering because I read that OSX only supports trim for its own ssds (please correct if wrong). Any thoughts appreciated... I searched the forum, but the answers were sometimes ambiguous.
 
A heads up with the M4 512.

I've bought 2 and both have failed. They failed in the exact same way, so these have a serious issue.

The good news is that customer service in Crucial is very good, so your covered. But drive failures are not something you want.

Note:
The two 512GB drives i've been using were swapped out a lot. Another M4 I use (256GB) is not (stationary). The stationary drive hasn't failed. But this is mostly irrelevant (just thought i'd mention it).

My 512 m4 that I bought back in March seems to have failed today. I just wrote crucial support. The drive isn't recognized in external usb enclosure (enclosure works fine with other drives) and it also isn't recognized when placed directly in the mac.

Worked fine in the computer, but the last couple of weeks I have been using it as an external drive. From reading mac jones' posts it appears that using these as external drives seems to make them a lot less stable than if they are in the computer. No problems for me when it was in my macbook pro it worked great. 2 weeks of using it as an external drive and it seems to be bricked. And yes, I always eject before disconnecting and I have been careful with the enclosure.

We'll see what crucial says.
 
My 512 m4 that I bought back in March seems to have failed today. I just wrote crucial support. The drive isn't recognized in external usb enclosure (enclosure works fine with other drives) and it also isn't recognized when placed directly in the mac.

Worked fine in the computer, but the last couple of weeks I have been using it as an external drive. From reading mac jones' posts it appears that using these as external drives seems to make them a lot less stable than if they are in the computer. No problems for me when it was in my macbook pro it worked great. 2 weeks of using it as an external drive and it seems to be bricked. And yes, I always eject before disconnecting and I have been careful with the enclosure.

We'll see what crucial says.

I wonder what the reason could be - maybe it's very sensitive to voltage or peak current and some external enclosures are not regulating it accurately? My April 2011 M4 512 is still working fine. It had a week in an external enclosure recently between Macs, but it's back in an MBP now.
 
Anyone know when notebook SSDs will be available in 768 GB or 1 TB capacity?
 
Just curious to know how those who installed crucial (or even samsung) ssds deal with the trim problem. Depending on the drive model, it's not so obvious whether you need to use it or not. In theory you need trim, but some of the newer models apparently have internal mechanisms that deal with GC independently without needing any OS assistance. I'm wondering because I read that OSX only supports trim for its own ssds (please correct if wrong). Any thoughts appreciated... I searched the forum, but the answers were sometimes ambiguous.

Most people don't bother with TRIM I imagine. Some people read a lot into an Anandtech article where they torture tested an M4 which saturated the drive's own garbage collection and caused it to slow down without TRIM. It was not a typical use and the M4's garbage collection seems to be pretty effective in general when left to its own devices. In a subsequent retest of different firmware they admitted that "Chances are that a standard desktop workload in a TRIM-free OS would be fine over the long run". Mine is 15 months old now and the same speed now as when it was new. I guess my view is I can keep TRIM in reserve if I do ever see a performance issue. If Apple changed OS X so I could enable it officially, then I would do so, but in the meantime would rather not complicate matters with kernel patches to force it on.
 
Most people don't bother with TRIM I imagine. Some people read a lot into an Anandtech article where they torture tested an M4 which saturated the drive's own garbage collection and caused it to slow down without TRIM. It was not a typical use and the M4's garbage collection seems to be pretty effective in general when left to its own devices. In a subsequent retest of different firmware they admitted that "Chances are that a standard desktop workload in a TRIM-free OS would be fine over the long run". Mine is 15 months old now and the same speed now as when it was new. I guess my view is I can keep TRIM in reserve if I do ever see a performance issue. If Apple changed OS X so I could enable it officially, then I would do so, but in the meantime would rather not complicate matters with kernel patches to force it on.

Nice to hear that and I'm glad it's working out for you. I'l still debating between a refurb MBP (to upgrade) and a 2012 model. So thanks for you feedback.
 
Anyone know when notebook SSDs will be available in 768 GB or 1 TB capacity?

I too am wondering this. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later, and will bring the price down on the 512GB SSD. If they brought the price of the 512GB drive down to the price of the 128GB SSD and made the price of the 768GB SSD the same as the current price of the 256GB SSD and made the 1TB SSD the same price as the current 512GB SSD, that would be amazing.

A man can dream, can't he? :)
 
I too am wondering this. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later, and will bring the price down on the 512GB SSD. If they brought the price of the 512GB drive down to the price of the 128GB SSD and made the price of the 768GB SSD the same as the current price of the 256GB SSD and made the 1TB SSD the same price as the current 512GB SSD, that would be amazing.

A man can dream, can't he? :)
HP has actually been working a memory chips (that can be used in SSDs among other things) that are a lot cheaper and faster than the current memory chips. But they are apparently waiting for the right market conditions to release them as they don't want to make the price of SSDs drop too much. So you could be looking at 2 years before 512GB SSDs are the price of 128GB ones are now.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/09/hp_memristor_and_photons/
 
My 512 m4 that I bought back in March seems to have failed today. I just wrote crucial support. The drive isn't recognized in external usb enclosure (enclosure works fine with other drives) and it also isn't recognized when placed directly in the mac.

Worked fine in the computer, but the last couple of weeks I have been using it as an external drive. From reading mac jones' posts it appears that using these as external drives seems to make them a lot less stable than if they are in the computer. No problems for me when it was in my macbook pro it worked great. 2 weeks of using it as an external drive and it seems to be bricked. And yes, I always eject before disconnecting and I have been careful with the enclosure.

We'll see what crucial says.

Yeah, just to be safe, I wouldn't use these as portables on USB ports. I have a 256GB version in a Lacie Thunderbolt drive and it's ok. The thing with the Thunderbolt drive is that it isn't swapped that much. The USB portables get heavy use.
 
Yeah, just to be safe, I wouldn't use these as portables on USB ports. I have a 256GB version in a Lacie Thunderbolt drive and it's ok. The thing with the Thunderbolt drive is that it isn't swapped that much. The USB portables get heavy use.

Crucial wrote me wanting me to powercycle the drive, but I don't have the pc or enclosure with power supply to do it. I wish they would just replace or fix the drive themselves. Any tips on how to get my warranty replacement. I feel like the drive should work and since it isn't I don't want any hassle more than it will be to mail it back to them.
 
Crucial wrote me wanting me to powercycle the drive, but I don't have the pc or enclosure with power supply to do it. I wish they would just replace or fix the drive themselves. Any tips on how to get my warranty replacement. I feel like the drive should work and since it isn't I don't want any hassle more than it will be to mail it back to them.

Easy. Just tell them you did the power cycle and it didn't work, so you would like a replacement....thank you.

They are great actually. They are required to tell you to do this first, for obvious reasons, in spite of the fact it's a waste of time and they sell shoddy junk.


On my second replacement, and am a happy (idiot) customer :)
 
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