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Apple has implemented a series of short- and long-term defenses to its iMessage protocol after several issues were discovered by a team of researchers at Johns Hopkins University, according to a report published today (via PatentlyApple).

This attack is different to the one Johns Hopkins researchers discovered in March, which allowed an attacker to decrypt photos and videos sent over iMessage.

The technical paper details how another method known as a "ciphertext attack" allowed them to retrospectively decrypt certain types of payloads and attachments when either the sender or receiver is still online.

The scenario requires that the attacker intercepts messages using stolen TLS certificates or by gaining access to Apple's servers. While the attack takes a high level of technical expertise to be successful, the researchers note that it would be well within the means of state-sponsored actors.
Overall, our determination is that while iMessage's end-to-end encryption protocol is an improvement over systems that use encryption on network traffic only (e.g., Google Hangouts), messages sent through iMessage may not be secure against sophisticated adversaries.
The team also discovered that Apple doesn't rotate encryption keys at regular intervals, in the way that modern encryption protocols such as OTR and Signal do. This means that the same attack can be used on iMessage historical data, which is often backed up inside iCloud. In theory, law enforcement could issue a court order forcing Apple to provide access to their servers and then use the attack to decrypt the data.

The researchers believe the attack could also be used on other protocols that use the same encryption format, such as Apple's Handoff feature, which transfers data between devices via Bluetooth. OpenPGP encryption (as implemented by GnuPGP) may be vulnerable to similar attacks when used in instant messaging applications, the paper noted.

Apple was notified of the issue as early as November 2015 and patched the iMessage protocol in iOS 9.3 and OS X 10.11.4 as a result. Since that time, the company has been pushing out further mitigations recommended by the researchers through monthly updates to several of its products.

However, the team's long-term recommendation is that Apple should replace the iMessage encryption mechanism with one that eliminates weaknesses in the protocol's core distribution mechanism.

The paper detailing the security issue is called Dancing on the Lip of the Volcano: Chosen Ciphertext Attacks on Apple iMessage, and was published as part of the USENIX Security Symposium, which took place in Austin, Texas. You can read the full paper here.

Article Link: Cryptography Experts Recommend Apple Replace its iMessage Encryption
 
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I think I read this on news.google.com.au.... sounds like a beat up to me. Next....
 
John Hopkins is a renowned medical school in Baltimore. What makes them the experts on cryptography?

They have an Information Security Institute. Professor Matthew Green was part of the research team.

Green is part of the group which developed Zerocoin, an anonymous cryptocurrency. His research team has exposed flaws in more than one third of SSL/TLS encrypted web sites as well as vulnerabilities in encryption technologies, including RSA BSAFE, Exxon/Mobil Speedpass, E-ZPass, and automotive security systems. In 2015, Green was a member of the research team that identified the Logjam vulnerability in the TLS protocol.

Green is a member of the technical advisory board for the Linux Foundation Core Infrastructure Initiative, formed to address critical Internet security concerns in the wake of the Heartbleed security bug disclosed in April 2014 in the OpenSSL cryptography library.

He sits on the technical advisory boards for CipherCloud, Overnest and Mozilla Cybersecurity Delphi. Green co-founded and serves on the Board for Directors of the Open Crypto Audit Project (OCAP), which undertook a security audit of the TrueCrypt software.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_D._Green
 
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John Hopkins is a renowned medical school in Baltimore. What makes them the experts on cryptography?

Comments like these annoy me quite a bit (unless I'm missing some type of sarcasm). As an Apple user and someone with a background in cryptography who has actually read the entire paper, you don't need to have a MIT or Stanford paper to make a cryptanalysis. In cryptography papers are heavily peer reviewed and skepticism is part of the process the whole time. At the end of the day it boils down to mathematics and computer science and these are provable things, so it's not hypothesis. The paper includes examples of how the attacks can be carried out and under specific conditions. It explains the protocols and the exact mechanisms used to extract the payloads in their settings. All the caveats are stated. Also, it does state that Apple implemented a lot of their recommendations in later versions of iOS and OS X/macOS (their paper references iOS 9.3 and OS X 10.11.4 or later)
 
John Hopkins is a renowned medical school in Baltimore. What makes them the experts on cryptography?

It's more than just a medical school.

Jesus ****ing christ on a stick we're less than three comments in and 2/3 of them are dismissing this out of hand because it's not a 100% positive Apple story but a constructive criticism of how they can improve weaknesses in their cryptography.
 
I suspect it will only become more problematic now that Apple pours so much code and complexity into iMessage with all these features in iOS 10, particularly iMessage apps, instant previews (e.g. weblinks) and visual effects (there have been some critical security bugs in Apple’s media frameworks recently).
 
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It's more than just a medical school.

Jesus ****ing christ on a stick we're less than three comments in and 2/3 of them are dismissing this out of hand because it's not a 100% positive Apple story but a constructive criticism of how they can improve weaknesses in their cryptography.
Familiar with 'on a bike'. On a stick is new to me, what does it mean?
 
I think I read this on news.google.com.au.... sounds like a beat up to me. Next....
What? The school praises Apple, says they've been working with suggestions in order to make shorter term patches but the team recommends replacing the whole encryption method. It's very useful constructive criticism. If I were to guess, Apple is probably testing a more permanent solution but, since the messaging platform is used across millions of devices, it takes some time.
 
I think iMessage was one of the first to have end to end encryption. Now that technologies for breaking that are being funded by governments it makes sense that apple open to others finding ways to close those holes.

I still believe apple is the only major software maker to implement systems that don't have backdoors and should be used without any fear compared to android or Skype or even iOS apps that claim to be secure.
 
. . . . . I still believe apple is the only major software maker to implement systems that don't have backdoors and should be used without any fear compared to android or Skype or even iOS apps that claim to be secure.

I would not get very invested into that belief. The fact is, that if the gov, having failed with public criticism of Apple supposedly supporting terrorism, issued a national security letter/FISA court order then we would never know about it.

If you want security, you have to install it yourself, which is not possible on iPhone or Apple TV because they are closed systems. Apple is also working on making Mac a closed system so you can't do it there either. Closed systems should be one of the most important issues that people keep blasting Apple for. There is no reason for the Apple TV to be closed, except for someone eventually being able to monitor everything you do in your own home.
 
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Comments like these annoy me quite a bit (unless I'm missing some type of sarcasm). As an Apple user and someone with a background in cryptography who has actually read the entire paper, you don't need to have a MIT or Stanford paper to make a cryptanalysis. In cryptography papers are heavily peer reviewed and skepticism is part of the process the whole time. At the end of the day it boils down to mathematics and computer science and these are provable things, so it's not hypothesis. The paper includes examples of how the attacks can be carried out and under specific conditions. It explains the protocols and the exact mechanisms used to extract the payloads in their settings. All the caveats are stated. Also, it does state that Apple implemented a lot of their recommendations in later versions of iOS and OS X/macOS (their paper references iOS 9.3 and OS X 10.11.4 or later)
It was a genuine question...and I appreciate the answers of everyone who replied.
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It's more than just a medical school.

Jesus ****ing christ on a stick we're less than three comments in and 2/3 of them are dismissing this out of hand because it's not a 100% positive Apple story but a constructive criticism of how they can improve weaknesses in their cryptography.

I was not hostile at all in my post, you on the other hand decided it was better to criticize rather than directly answer my question like others did.
 
I think that apple used the best encryption software and practices when first developing imessage for the scale/scope that it needed.. And at the time of developing. It was damn near impossible to break.. But now, several years later. As new and better and more secure options are available.. It may be time for an update.. But as of right now. Only a handful of people have the resources to execute this attack.. Is it worth overhauling the system now? I don't think so.. But in the next 2-3 years?? Yes. Definitely.
 
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17 comments and yet I'm the first one to bring up the paper title.

I have absolutely no clue about encryption but I do know a thing or two about vulcano lips.
 
Nice to see the vulnerabilities being outed so Apple can fix them. We want secure / private messaging services folks, this paper is a good thing (it'd be better if they couldn't find any vulnerabilities, but that's not the real world).
 
That's what you think, "cryptography experts." Tim Cook is the real deal when it comes to security. You should just fall back in line with the rest of the herd.

sarcasm*
 
OK, it's somewhat disconcerting that they were able to retrospectively decrypt certain content. But iMessage certainly isn't a "secure messenger" (like Threema or Signal). Yes, it offers end-to-end encryption, but you're not even able to verify that you're actually using your conversation partner's public key to encrypt your messages (hi there, man in the middle). It surely doesn't come as a surprise that you probably shouldn't use iMessage (or WhatsApp, for that matter) if you care about security.
 
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