Ok.. so I really want to be a part of this whole clean code & web standards movement by using mostly CSS instead of tables for websites.. I'm just having trouble being convinced, when creating a simple site that views great in safari, firefox... but is completely messed up by IE 5 and sometimes 6+... as much as I would like to ignore this demographic, it is unfortunately the majority. I have read up a bit on how to create two sets of rules.. one for IE to follow, one for the others.. I have not yet played much with implementing it, as I do not have IE 5 on a PC to really see what difference it's making... but I was curious if anyone out there knew of any programs, applets, tricks for automating bits of rules/code into the IE safe version? It seems plausible for a program that could look at how you coded it, understand that that way of writing it is for the Safari/firefox browser.. and create the secondary code for IE around it?? If it doesn't exist.. it sounds like a great way for a programmer to claim rights to the next big web-tech patent? Here's an example of a site that seems to load fine in any web app I use on a mac.. but there were numerous complaints about it's rendering on a PC.. using IE of either 5 or 6: http://www.violadesign.com/ Thanks in advance for any guidance to the issue.