Hello long time no see. I have started rewriting my site css and html to be much cleaner and scale nicely however i have a stumbling block in my road that i can not seem to resolve though i did before with many many lines of css that it was shoe horned to work before. Under "<!-- Navigation --><div id="navigation_main">" there is a element selected now this element has a bottom border from the base.css file that sets it to over lap the item below it so it appears as if these elements are the same uniform colour as demonstrated on the old clunky version here. However on this new version it fails to overlap and it also seems to be merged with another element at the end. Sorry i can't access my ftp to upload a demonstration just now but all the code is below. I have tried googling for a solution of course and most are pointing to using a clear both which i believe i did before though this is no longer working as a solution. UPDATE: Its looking much more how i imagined it now. link Finishing up and making it work with internet exploder next i guess.