Current Version of Handbrake, 0.9.2 and 5.1 AC3

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by Blazer5913, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. Blazer5913 macrumors 6502

    Jan 20, 2004
    So I just noticed that Handbrake has a new version out that supports 5.1 sound in the mp4 container. So my question to you guys is basically "Is this the missing piece we were looking for in Handbrake?" Can I know begin to rip my SD movies in all their 5.1 glory and retain this for the AppleTV2? I've been waiting for a "finalized" version of Handbrake in terms of 5.1 before I begin the ripping process, but it looks like it is here. I just want a final confirmation from you guys before I start... Thanks

    Oh, and I'm also kinda waiting for this "version" in the VisualHub camp as well. I know that they can now support 5.1 audio as well, but in the .mov container. This makes tagging with MetaX extremely challenging. The MetaX ppl emailed me back saying they will be adding .mov support very soon. My question to you guys is should use the .mov container? I thought .mp4 was better and that .mov didn't work on as many devices. The files will mainly be played on AppleTV and computer. But again, I want to wait to encode before I know that this is the "version" and workflow that I want to encode my HD .mkv's and be able to successfully tag them. Thanks guys
  2. bacaramac macrumors 65816


    Dec 29, 2007
    Ok, odd, what happened to the original thread. I can't find it, there was a thread already out for this topic and now it is missing.

    EDIT: Looks like it was moved under Mac Apps.
  3. Koola macrumors member

    Feb 16, 2008
    Handbrake is the best app right now for producing iPod, iPhone & :apple:TV compatible MP4 encodes. For instance, you can add AAC (Pro Logic II) + AC3 (5.1) to the same MP4 file in order to maintain compatibility with multiple devices "One rip to rule them all!".

    HB is great for DVD source encoding, however VH is better in terms of supporting more formats to encode from. This is perfect for HD .mkv --> .mp4 encoding. The downside is that it creates a .mov container which is why I'm not encoding HD content until as and when HB supports it (not that I have that many discs anyway).
  4. MikieMikie macrumors 6502a

    Aug 7, 2007
    Newton, MA
    I used it last night. I think the whole user experience has been improved. Encoding was painless.

    Kudos to the HB team.

    Blazer, your wait is over.
  5. zedsdead macrumors 68040

    Jun 20, 2007
    The HB team has no plans to break Blu-Ray's DRM. However, if someone does it for them, they will likely then add MPEG-4 support to encode with.
  6. Superman07 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 28, 2007
    I know this has been addressed, but I'm somewhat still confused as this is new to me. Is there a chart that covers file type compatability for the Touch, phone, 5G and TV? For example, .mk4 = ATV only. Note, I'm assuming the dual audio encode approach.

    I started to play with 0.9.2 last night, but didn't have much time. Otherwise this may make more sense from trial and error.
  7. liketom macrumors 601


    Apr 8, 2004
    what speeds are people getting with the new version ? i've yet to test it :)
  8. Scarpad macrumors 68000


    Jan 13, 2005
    Has anyone notice this with their encodes. It's probably my wireless connection but a few time during the movie I'll get some slight stutter where the movies will either slow down slightly or speed up for a few seconds, the return to normal.
  9. Blazer5913 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 20, 2004
    Alright, so for my SD DVD's that do not have HD versions, I am good to go and start encoding them with Handbrake, keeping the 5.1 surround sound?

    And as far as my 720p HD .mkv movies, I should probably wait a bit until VisualHub releases a newer version that can support the AC3 5.1 in the mp4 container and stay away from the .mov (due to troubles with MetaX described in other threads). They should be pretty quick to doing this correct? I mean, the Handbrake team basically figured out how to do it, why can't VisualHub??
  10. Cave Man macrumors 604

    Cave Man

    Yes, I did. "Batman Begins" with the HB ATV preset (2-pass) stutters by streaming, but does not when sync'd (AEBSn). This is why I'm seriously considering the 750 gb HD for my ATV.
  11. Nugget macrumors 65816


    Nov 24, 2002
    Houston Texas USA
    Ripping for AppleTV preset from the physical media right now on my 3.2 Mac Pro...

    Encoding: task 2 of 2, 73.08 % (124.55 fps, avg 116.39, ETA 00h07m48s)
  12. kagharaht macrumors 6502a

    Oct 7, 2007
    This has not happened to me at all with ATV on my AE Snow "G" with all my encodes with Handbrake. So far all has played flawlessly.

    I also would like to note, that upgrading to 10.5.2 has improved wireless networking tremendously with the AE. 10.5 had some issues and Apple has corrected them in 10.5.2.

    To test I started to transfer 20GB of files from my MBP 2.1 using File sharing to my iMac G5 2.0 ALS public shared folder. Went downstairs and started to stream a movie encoded with Handbrake. No stutters, no problem and it played without a hitch.

    Perhaps updating to 10.5.2 will fix your streaming to ATV issues?
  13. Cave Man macrumors 604

    Cave Man

    Doesn't work for me. My pre-092 encodes (DPLII) stream fine.
  14. kagharaht macrumors 6502a

    Oct 7, 2007
    You braggart!!! :eek:

    I want one of those!!!!
  15. dynaflash macrumors 68020

    Mar 27, 2003
    Maybe its that extra 448 kbps of AC3 DD 5.1 goodness running through your network ;)
  16. Blazer5913 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 20, 2004
    Wow, those speeds are absolutely incredible. Although I have some minor apps running in the background, I'm at Task 2 of 2... 35.69fps, avg. 32.56fps... Seems kind of slow... Oh well. Any answer to my VisualHub question? There's gotta be a new version out soon. Somebody give me some hope haha. Thanks
  17. Cave Man macrumors 604

    Cave Man

    I suspect that's it, my friend - and I ain't complain', that's for sure! The video quality sure seems better too, but maybe that's my imagination. If only I can find a silent enclosure for a 750 gig PATA drive...
  18. MikieMikie macrumors 6502a

    Aug 7, 2007
    Newton, MA
    My encode speed with 0.9.2 was noticeably faster than with 0.9.1.

    I had no stutter streaming Natural Born Killers (5.1) in the following config:
    iMac -> AEBS -> AirDisk -> AEBS -> iMac -> AEBS ethernet -> AppleTV​

    On VH: Write the developer an email. That seems to do some good.
  19. Blazer5913 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 20, 2004
    Sorry to sound like an idiot... But what do you mean by extra 448kbps for the 5.1 AC3? Is there anything special other than AppleTV preset (I use 2 pass as well) to get this high quality audio from the source? Sorry, I feel dumb right now...
  20. Cave Man macrumors 604

    Cave Man

    Choose the AC3+AAC option to get both Dolby Digital and DPLII audio tracks. The DD is larger, but sounds much better on a DD-capable receiver.
  21. MikieMikie macrumors 6502a

    Aug 7, 2007
    Newton, MA
    I think what he was saying was that the file size and, so, the amount of streaming data increases when you add a completely new, pass-through, audio track.
  22. chris200x9 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 3, 2006
    encoding with x264 on linux with the CLI I see no noticable speed differance (this may not be accurate I just did it a few seconds to test it)
  23. Blazer5913 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 20, 2004
    So how does this sound for my Handbrake settings for great quality SD DVDs:
    Select AppleTV preset
    I use 2-pass with turbo 1st pass
    And then change the CODEC to AVC/H.264 Video/ AAC + AC3 Audio

    Anything else I should be worrying about changing to have the best looking SD video possible for my AppleTV. I'm not worried about file size... Thanks guys, this thread has been such a great help for me!
  24. ingenious macrumors 68000


    Jan 13, 2004
    Washington, D.C.
    Slow!?! :eek: I was happy; the 0.9.2 update increased my encoding speed by 50%: I went from an average of 4.0 fps to 6.0 fps! :D

    HB is running on my iMac G5 2.0 GHz with 2 GB of RAM and no applications running. In all fairness, it is deinterlacing (Fast) right now, but that's about the speed I get, regardless. Is that normal?

    What's the best preset for multiple devices (i.e. iPod and :apple:tv?). Right now I'm using iPod High-Rez, but I noticed HB has an "Insert iPod Atom" option now; does that mean I can use whatever preset I choose and the resulting file will play on my iPod without iTunes have to convert it again?
  25. radpanic macrumors member

    Sep 5, 2007
    There is not a preset for Apple TV/iPod Touch so how do I get one rip that I can use for both? Will the new Apple TV preset just work on the Touch? I used the previous version of HB to rip my DVD's with the Apple TV preset but those files will not sync to my iPod Touch. Thanks.

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