Custom info on lock screen

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  1. MacrumoursUser macrumors 6502

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    When will we be able to see weather and other info on lock screen without sliding the NC down or unlocking the phone and going into relevant app? Much like on windows phone and android. So much wasted space.
     
  2. shenfrey macrumors 68000

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    I'm afraid it will be when you decide to cave and buy Android :(
     
  3. Pagemakers macrumors 68000

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    The Apple lock screen is terrible. So much unused real estate.

    Notification centre implementation is pointless.
     
  4. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Pointless how/why?
     
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  6. Crzyrio macrumors 65816

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    I personally prefer the notification centre implementation. My push notifications are usually more important than things like weather, where I don't require to see it every time I turn on my phone.
     
  7. bandofbrothers macrumors 601

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    Possibly if on iOS 8.1.2 or lower.

    But not the only reason.

    + lots of homework before doing so.
     
  8. Pagemakers macrumors 68000

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    In it's current incarnation (since iOS 1) all the lock screen is used for is to tell the time and show everybody else your new born baby pic or wife pic or boyfriend pic. 90% of the screen is useless.

    To get any information you have to swipe from the top and even then you may be presented with the wrong page so a click is needed to change tabs.

    If you have Touch ID you may as well just enter your phone and find what you were looking for, like your next appointment time. That could be done with 1 press and 1 click.

    I have no idea why the lock screen can't remember its last state. Eg if you pulled the notification screen down it stays down until you slide it up.

    When I pick up my phone I want INSTANTLY see my next appointment. My stocks, weather or whatever else I have customised on the lock screen.

    I should be able to pick up, look, put down. Not pick up, swipe, click, look put down. It makes the whole expensive pointless and cumbersome.

    This is one area where Microsoft wins hands down.
     

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  9. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    I sent Apple some feedback last week regarding an agenda idea for the lock screen. It would work by displaying the next 48 hours of calendar content directly under the clock on the lock screen, after the user enables the agenda in settings of course. The agenda would move down to show incoming notifications but a simple scrolling action would bring the agenda back into view.

    Any idea to add information to the lock screen would inevitably bring with it privacy concerns in the case that the phone were lost or stolen.
     
  10. Pagemakers macrumors 68000

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    I've sent then feedback for YEARS. Don't expect for a moment that they will listen and implement it.
     
  11. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    Being that we have no proof that our feedback is being completely ignored, we cannot rightly assume they aren't listening. Lack of a reply or implementation can be taken many ways. I prefer to give Apple the benefit of the doubt and assume they are working to implement things in the best possible manner. The fact that our lock screens can be viewed by someone who just stole an iPhone shows that Apple need to consider every possible scenario before implementing this type of feature.

    I, for one, wouldn't want someone who just stole my iPhone to know exactly where I will be at a certain time next week via calendar information on my lock screen.
     
  12. iConnected macrumors 6502a

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    I suspect that Apple may add this feature to iOS in the not too distant future.

    Particularly because it exists on watchOS / Apple Watch in the form of customisable "complications":

    "Apple Watch comes with a full range that can be added to most faces. Some complications are traditional, such as moon phases or sunrises and sunsets. Some are more modern, like stock quotes, weather reports, your next calendar event, and a daily activity tracker. And you can tap on certain complications to get more information from their corresponding apps"

    http://www.apple.com/watch/timekeeping/
    This will feed expectations that the same features should exist on iOS lock screens.
     
  13. Pagemakers macrumors 68000

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    Great, then For you, you can turn that option off and we are both happy.

    Sadly Apple don't give us many options. We are told how to use our devices.
     
  14. iConnected macrumors 6502a

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    Seems the expectations are already out there :)

    iMore: "Complications, as realized on the Apple Watch, are one of those features I never knew I was missing until I had them. Now I want them everywhere. Hopefully with iOS 9 or a future update we can get them on the iPhone, as well."

    http://www.imore.com/ios-9-complications-iphone-lock-screen

    appleinsider: "Looking toward future versions of iOS, it's easy to see how the concept of Apple Watch complications could be applied to the iPhone (or iPad) lock screen."

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...able-clutter-free-info-to-iphone-lock-screens

    Macworld: "But there’s a way Apple could bring a level of personalization with compromising its vision with themes or visible widgets: complications. On Apple Watch, they’re a way to personalize our faces with quick bytes of information that can be gleaned at a glance, and they could be just as useful on our iOS devices."

    http://www.macworld.com/article/293...ionary-features-to-transform-our-screens.html
     
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    I believe that the Time Travel feature from watchOS will come to iOS.

     
  17. CanadaMaple macrumors member

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    You see, me myself I like a very empty lock screen. Less information the better for me. Although, I wouldnt oppose the weather. I think Apple should definitely bring something like this out, but give people who may want to the option to DISABLE it. I don't use the calendar in my phone at all, so that part doesn't effect me.
     
  18. iConnected macrumors 6502a

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    Keep in mind that a key distinction is being drawn between widgets and complications.

    Widgets, in comparative terms, take up more space (and I wouldn't want those on my lock screen).

    Complications should be much smaller and more subtle / discreet (not the centre of attention on the lock screen).

    Of course, anything like this should definitely be optional and user-customisable.
     
  19. CanadaMaple macrumors member

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    Theirs a good example in a jailbreak tweak called weather when it comes to the weather at least. It's called ForeCast

    I've attached a couple screenshots with the options switched around. Mind you if it wasn't cloudy, the one with the weather at the top would look much nicer, with a sun or something there.

    It wouldn't take Apple much to do it. And I do agree with your opinion on the widgets, way too big for lock screen, give us subtle customizations.

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  20. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    So basically not pointless, but simply doesn't have as much information as you would like it to.
     
  21. iConnected macrumors 6502a

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    That's exactly the kind of thing we're talking 'bout :cool:
     
  22. DomC macrumors 6502

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    That might be the timeframe for Apple to implement their own complications, give it another year or two after that to see developers given the green light. If at all.
     
  23. Pagemakers macrumors 68000

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    It has NO information on it apart from the date and time.
     
  24. chrf097 macrumors 68040

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    For a lot that's all that matters.

    I personally don't care for lock screen widgets or "Complications" (people use that term like Apple invented it). I find it a security issue personally. Anyone can pick up my phone and see my next appointment and know where I'm going, read my email (if I had something like Android's Email lock screen widget). Sure they could be protected by a password, but then what's the point.

    It's not a bad idea though. If people want it to come to iOS then I think they should let it, but I'd never use it personally, and I know A LOT of people who wouldn't either.

    Besides considering the notification center can already display all this from the lock screen, that's probably the route Apple is taking for the very foreseeable future. The argument comes down to "I don't want to take the extra half a second to pull the notification center down".
     
  25. Pagemakers macrumors 68000

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    In that half second with touch ID I can be in my phone viewing the same stuff anyway and all using 1 hand not 2.

    If apple gave us and OPTION to display stuff on the lock screen we'd all be happy.
     

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