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Imagine being an iPhone 15 Pro user, 12 months ($1000) after buying it, with a chipset that runs at just under 7% of the iPhone 16 Pro or 3% of the iPhone 16 and being told that your phone isn't powerful enough to run some live filters. Imagine believing that. This is a massive kick in the teeth for iPhone 15 Pro users. Let's be frank, this is money grabbing/planned obsolescence at its worst.
 
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Good article. Good to see the new feature. Disappointing to see that it is not available in 15 Pro
 
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If you read what the Verge article says this is clearly just software. There's absolutely no reason why this couldn't be available on older phones. They are talking about a rearranged software pipeline and a slightly different file format for the image (or rather, additional data stored next to the image). No new hardware is required.
 
Imagine being an iPhone 15 Pro user, 12 months ($1000) after buying it, with a chipset that runs at just under 7% of the iPhone 16 Pro or 3% of the iPhone 16 and being told that your phone isn't powerful enough to run some live filters. Imagine believing that. This is a massive kick in the teeth for iPhone 15 Pro users. Let's be frank, this is money grabbing/planned obsolescence at its worst.
So what if it is money grabbing? The purpose of a corporation is to make as much money as it can.

Today, an iPhone 15 does everything it did when you bought it. Nobody is forcing you to buy a new phone and spend that money. Just don't do it! I generally wait 3 years between phones. I didn't this time only because I expect to be dead before the next one comes out.

A new device having more features than your current one hardly makes yours obsolete. The 15 will be a perfectly good and supported phone for MANY years. You could EASILY be just fine using it another 4 years, if you can resist the urge to feel unhappy because you don't have the latest and greatest.

Hell, my MacBook Pro is from 2012. Coming up on 13 years old! It works just great! My 2007 Jeep and 2009 Yamaha TMAX (motorcycle) are also old but just fine.

It's all about mental attitude. Choose to be unhappy with your current phone, or not. It's up to you, not Apple.
 
Why can’t I disable HDR though? This used to be an option. Now it isn’t. The hardware improvements are negated by the heavy-handed processing. Most photos taken with newer iPhones look absolutely awful to me and thousands of other people (look at the “Me too” responses on Apple forums).

It seems like Apple engineers have fallen into the HDR Hole - a phenomenon that frequently happens to beginner photographers where they go totally overboard with HDR before realising how bad it looks.
 
Why can’t I disable HDR though? This used to be an option. Now it isn’t. The hardware improvements are negated by the heavy-handed processing. Most photos taken with newer iPhones look absolutely awful to me and thousands of other people (look at the “Me too” responses on Apple forums).

It seems like Apple engineers have fallen into the HDR Hole - a phenomenon that frequently happens to beginner photographers where they go totally overboard with HDR before realising how bad it looks.

Yep agreed. HDR tends to looks fine on HDR displays such as MBP Micro-LED / iPhone OLED. On non-HDR displays and things that poorly emulate HDR it looks like utter crap so I never use HDR either.
 
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The purpose of this forum is not to enrich Apple shareholders, so people will voice their opinions as they see fit. That's a consequence of this decision that you and Apple will have to deal with.
Right. I didn't make a simple claim that people shouldn't voice their opinion. But nice try.

We both deal with it just fine (;
 
So what if it is money grabbing? The purpose of a corporation is to make as much money as it can.

Today, an iPhone 15 does everything it did when you bought it. Nobody is forcing you to buy a new phone and spend that money. Just don't do it! I generally wait 3 years between phones. I didn't this time only because I expect to be dead before the next one comes out.

A new device having more features than your current one hardly makes yours obsolete. The 15 will be a perfectly good and supported phone for MANY years. You could EASILY be just fine using it another 4 years, if you can resist the urge to feel unhappy because you don't have the latest and greatest.

Hell, my MacBook Pro is from 2012. Coming up on 13 years old! It works just great! My 2007 Jeep and 2009 Yamaha TMAX (motorcycle) are also old but just fine.

It's all about mental attitude. Choose to be unhappy with your current phone, or not. It's up to you, not Apple.
Lol, wut? This isn't a hardware decision, it's a software decision. The lovely people over at Apple have purposely stopped users accessing a software feature based on a generational hardware designation. Apparently a Pro user/buyer from 2023 right up to September 2024 is of no interest to them now the new phone is out. That's a disgusting business practice.

Also, "so what if it is money grabbing" - I mean, wow.
 
Software that could be easily added to older phones… pass for greedys
Tim’s Apple is the epitome of greed! You are very correct, and there’s no reason this couldn’t have applied to any photo you even bring into iOS; even if you took it with your Android!

In addition, Apple’s presets don’t look very good. Take the Fujifilm cameras, they make some amazing presets! Apple should have just copied them - like they don’t steal every day from developers and customers!!! Apple brags how great they do - it’s all corporate greed!
 
Lol, wut? This isn't a hardware decision, it's a software decision. The lovely people over at Apple have purposely stopped users accessing a software feature based on a generational hardware designation. Apparently a Pro user/buyer from 2023 right up to September 2024 is of no interest to them now the new phone is out. That's a disgusting business practice.

Also, "so what if it is money grabbing" - I mean, wow.
Not sure why it matters if it is a hardware or software decision.

As a shareholder, I cheer Apple on as it grubs as much money as it can.
 
So what if it is money grabbing? The purpose of a corporation is to make as much money as it can.

Today, an iPhone 15 does everything it did when you bought it. Nobody is forcing you to buy a new phone and spend that money. Just don't do it! I generally wait 3 years between phones. I didn't this time only because I expect to be dead before the next one comes out.

A new device having more features than your current one hardly makes yours obsolete. The 15 will be a perfectly good and supported phone for MANY years. You could EASILY be just fine using it another 4 years, if you can resist the urge to feel unhappy because you don't have the latest and greatest.

Hell, my MacBook Pro is from 2012. Coming up on 13 years old! It works just great! My 2007 Jeep and 2009 Yamaha TMAX (motorcycle) are also old but just fine.

It's all about mental attitude. Choose to be unhappy with your current phone, or not. It's up to you, not Apple.
You are exactly right. Glad to see I am not the only intelligent person here.
 
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You also need to mention in that article that as well as selecting HEIF in the settings and not most compatible, but you also cannot use ProRAW. You have to select HEIF Max in the Pro default section.
The latter kind of makes sense. ProRAW is designed to give the most possible editing latitude at the expense of the image looking Apple-fied out of the box (whether you like Apple's processing or dislike it). The new Photographic Styles are kind of an in-between of a straight up HEIF and ProRAW, it allows for some expanded editing latitude but not to the degree ProRAW does.
 
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If you read what the Verge article says this is clearly just software. There's absolutely no reason why this couldn't be available on older phones. They are talking about a rearranged software pipeline and a slightly different file format for the image (or rather, additional data stored next to the image). No new hardware is required.
The Verge doesn't say one way or another that it's just software, just that it's due to a reshuffled computational photography pipeline. Apple's computational photography system utilizes a number of components of the SoC, including the image signal processor. It's not purely software. The ISP does a significant amount of the work assembling the image output which is then manipulated by the Neural Engine and other components. Since the pipeline had to be reshuffled to implement Photographic Styles it is entirely possible it required changes to the ISP and how it outputs the image for that reshuffle to occur, and that older ISPs might not be compatible.
 
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So? You got everything that was promised on your old phone when you bought it. They never guarantee you get new features. You paid for what you got, not for what may be added later.
Exactly.

You could always sell your 15 and buy a 16 if you value the new features so much.

If you don't value them so much, I guess I don't see what the complaint is all about.
 
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