😄 I'm pushing narratives? So this change in the law didn't later require Prop 36 to address the rampant shoplifting problems in California? You're trying to push a narrative that suits you, instead of what is.
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Retail employees are, generally, not worried about shoplifters having guns. At least I never was working retail for 10 years.
Insulting someone by stopping them unless you’ve actually seen them take the item and go past the POS to exit, that was something we were always very concerned about.
Maybe we should create a "Security Exit" at stores along the lines of TSA. A quick scan of the packages and body and if nothing is seen, they can leave the store. If there is an issue,, the pre-positioned paddy wagon will give the person an immediate ride downtown where a single "judge" will both press charges and send the person to a nearby prison/work farm.
After this week, anything is possible.
After this week, anything is possible.
That is why you fail.
Show me where that was what I said. I'll wait...
You said we allow shoplifting now, right, Yoda?
I asked if it was made legal, and you've ranted and raved about a bunch of other things that you think somehow has made shoplifting legal, but it hasn't.
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Above you quoted yourself as writing that the law promotes shoplifting - whatever that means - and also linked to an opinion piece that asserted that shoplifting in San Francisco is de facto legal because there has been no effective enforcement of the law. You adopted this position when you used it to rebut another argument without clearly qualifying that you still believed shoplifting is illegal.
Locking up merchandise may be the only tool left in a retailer's toolset to encourage thieves to move on to easier targets, including customers leaving the store with merchandise in hand (recently, this happened at Fashion Island in Newport Beach, Calif., where a tourist was murdered in a botched robbery outside the store).
What CVS is trying seems innovative, if imperfect. But the hard truth is that all retailers are attempting to reduce labor costs (use self-checkouts please), so the stores are scarce of employees, leaving customers and thieves to their own devices.
Addressing retail theft is going to require a multifaceted approach including securing merchandise, prosecuting thieves, cracking down on resales of stolen merchandise, and other broader efforts to reduce crime, which will involve a collaboration between government and industry because neither one can do this all alone.
🤣 "Opinion piece" Let's see;
1. California shoplifting law gets changed in 2021.
2. Shoplifting in California goes rampant.
3. Many retailers close locations.
4. Those that decide to stay start locking things up behind barricades.
5. Retailers get the great idea of requiring "shoppers" to have a $429 device to open the barricades.
6. California finally reverts the shoplifting law.
Which part of that is an "opinion"?
I have. Apparently neither you nor I know what you are trying to say.
I don't get it. Society is falling apart and your tilting windmills. You see what's going on around you (maybe you don't) and you prefer to play a game of semantics.
The laws were changed. Shoplifting went rampant as a result. Laws were changed again, crime rates are starting to come down. What don't you get? Why do you insist on trying to get me to prove something I did not say? 😄
The Hoover article is opinion ("We probably shouldn’t call it shoplifting anymore") based on some underlying facts, which do not convert opinion into fact - there is a difference. The Hoover article is also hyper-partisan. The assertion that shoplifting is "de facto legal" (it's even in the headline in case you missed it) is opinion too, and you used that link to support your argument that the laws have changed without ever clearly saying that shoplifting is and always has been illegal.
Just show me where it says that shoplifting is now legal, please. There must be a law that says shoplifting is legal. I'm assuming it was news when they made the change.
My local law official (?) didn't tell me that shoplifting is legal now though. Look man, just admit you said something stupid. It's ok, we all do it. You got whipped up about something and became hyperbolic.
It's not the end of the world.
AGAIN, show me where I said it was LEGAL. Look man, just admit you said something stupid. It's ok, we all do it. You got whipped up about something and became hyperbolic.
I've pointed multiple times to your post. You said we allow shoplifting now. So I asked you to please point out where it was made legal, so that I can also accept that we allow shoplifting now.
But we don't allow shoplifting, and it is in fact, still illegal.
Despite of what other commenters said here, it was made not a crime in CA for items under 900 dollars.
There's a backlash now and people are shutting it down but it was completely ridiculous to see security guards under strict orders not to interfere with thieves stand by while people steal stuff. There's a ton of videos of it online.
I think it's ending. It will go down as one of the stupidest periods in the history of mankind. When stealing wasn't a crime, but interfering with theft could land you in jail. When rapists got let off but girls who complained were jailed for defamation. An insane period in western civilization.
Natural law will return where everyone has the right to defend their property. It's in the constitution.
Incidentally I've left the USA a long time ago. I live in Asia. There's no shoplifting here. Doesn't exist. But if anyone tried, traditionally here on my island the punishment for theft was death. No trial either, you just get dragged into the jungle and you're never heard from again. That was in the old times. But still - this place is 1000x safer than anywhere in the USA or Europe.