Since the D80 has come down in price, I have been wanting to get one. Amazon has some good prices but I'm hung up on the kit lens. I would really like the 18-135, but the 18-55 has VR. What would you guys go with? Does the vibration reduction really make a big difference? I've never had a DSLR before. I am upgrading from a P&S. Here are the prices: D80 with 18-135mm AF-S DX Zoom for $799 D80 with 18-55 AF-S DX VR for $739 The thing is that the 18-135 is over $200 bucks by itself and I'm not looking to buy a lot of glass until I've "gotten the hang" of things. So I think the 18-135 would let me do more now. I can always pick up a 18-55 later since it's only like $100. Just looking for some feedback into weather or not the 18-135 w/o VR is a deal breaker or not.