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Damn Apple!!!! How to delete photos synced through iTunes?
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You can also purchase a 3rd party app to generate slide shows. Try Portfolio. It is good at organizing photos.
Doesn't iPhone Explorer still need to be run on a computer???
The OP's problem is that he does not have access to his computer.
At least for his situation, a 'work around' has been found.
But thanks for the heads up on that program - it can be useful!
Personally, if given the choice between one-way syncing and no syncing but being able to manually manage my photos on my iPad I would definitely choose one-way syncing. I've now got an iPad, iPod Touch and iPod Classic having to manually choose what is on each would be extremely annoying. I would far rather have libraries of music, video and photos on my Mac and let the computer figure out what should be transferred when I plug my devices in.
Two-way syncing so changes are automatically transferred back to a "home" computer is something I would be interested in but VTMac does make the good point that there is much more risk of data loss. There is also the human factor to consider, imagine a young child picking up a iPad and deleting all the photos they didn't like. With two-way syncing those pictures would be gone forever unless you had good backups.
Ultimately I think that improving syncing is something that Apple needs to do if they want to grow iOS into a fully-fledged OS. However there are a lot of issues they need to consider to make it work well, especially if they want to retain the ease-of-use that people like so much about iOS. Placing your libraries in the cloud may help but there is still the problem of changes made off-line and the huge amount of bandwidth needed to move everyone's stuff into the cloud in the first place.
Two-way syncing so changes are automatically transferred back to a "home" computer is something I would be interested in but VTMac does make the good point that there is much more risk of data loss. There is also the human factor to consider, imagine a young child picking up a iPad and deleting all the photos they didn't like. With two-way syncing those pictures would be gone forever unless you had good backups.
Ultimately I think that improving syncing is something that Apple needs to do if they want to grow iOS into a fully-fledged OS. However there are a lot of issues they need to consider to make it work well, especially if they want to retain the ease-of-use that people like so much about iOS. Placing your libraries in the cloud may help but there is still the problem of changes made off-line and the huge amount of bandwidth needed to move everyone's stuff into the cloud in the first place.
PhotoAlbums+
Requires a jailbreak. Integrates seamlessly with Photos app on the iPhone itself.
Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJfDTOnnSJU
Edit: Sorry, not iPad compatible yet.
Requires a jailbreak. Integrates seamlessly with Photos app on the iPhone itself.
Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJfDTOnnSJU
Edit: Sorry, not iPad compatible yet.
I'm not sure I understand this one way sync idea?
I thought changes you made on the Computer got put onto the iPad, and changes you made on the iPad got put onto the Computer.
Can anyone explain?
I have a security program which is an App and also a PC program.
I'm sure if I delete things on the PC version and sync then they will be deleted on the iPad and if I delete things from the app on the iPad then they will be deleted from the PC.
It would seem odd to me to delete them on the iPad and then them all still be there on the PC. then if I synced back all the items I deleted on the iPad would be put back onto the iPad at the next sync.
that would be very confusing
I thought changes you made on the Computer got put onto the iPad, and changes you made on the iPad got put onto the Computer.
Can anyone explain?
I have a security program which is an App and also a PC program.
I'm sure if I delete things on the PC version and sync then they will be deleted on the iPad and if I delete things from the app on the iPad then they will be deleted from the PC.
It would seem odd to me to delete them on the iPad and then them all still be there on the PC. then if I synced back all the items I deleted on the iPad would be put back onto the iPad at the next sync.
that would be very confusing
Yeah, I interpreted what he said as that he didn't have access to his own machine and what was on it, rather than not having any access to any computer. But I think you're probably right -- he had access to nothing.
Even so, had he had access to anybody's Mac or PC he could have downloaded and run it.
One potential issue is what if you are away from your comp and your iPad is filled with photos and then you want to purchase iTunes store material? You can't because you can't delete photos. Not very smart, is it?
I'm not sure I understand this one way sync idea?
I thought changes you made on the Computer got put onto the iPad, and changes you made on the iPad got put onto the Computer.
Can anyone explain?
I have a security program which is an App and also a PC program.
I'm sure if I delete things on the PC version and sync then they will be deleted on the iPad and if I delete things from the app on the iPad then they will be deleted from the PC.
It would seem odd to me to delete them on the iPad and then them all still be there on the PC. then if I synced back all the items I deleted on the iPad would be put back onto the iPad at the next sync.
that would be very confusing
As far as I know syncing for third party Apps is the responsibility of the App developer themselves and iOS doesn't really provide any assistance. The developer of the security App you're talking about must have created the code to do two-way syncing for their App data themselves. Another example of two-way syncing is the contacts and calendar data stored on iOS devices. Additions, deletions and edits on iOS are transferred back over either USB or MobileMe if you pay for it.
However Apple's syncing of music, videos and photos is for the most part one-way, from a computer to iOS. One-way syncing only really works if you can't edit data on the target device and you are right, it can be confusing if you can. For example you can delete videos on an iPad but when you sync iTunes will put them back on if you have space free.
I'm not sure I understand this one way sync idea?
I thought changes you made on the Computer got put onto the iPad, and changes you made on the iPad got put onto the Computer.
Can anyone explain?
I have a security program which is an App and also a PC program.
I'm sure if I delete things on the PC version and sync then they will be deleted on the iPad and if I delete things from the app on the iPad then they will be deleted from the PC.
That is just how that particular app happens to work. Obviously the developer of *that* app has implemented two-way syncing. But that has nothing to do with how iTunes handles syncing data between the iPad and your computer.
Even within iTunes, syncing is handled differently depending on the data type. Contacts info and Safari bookmarks sync two-way. Apps and video can be deleted off the iPad, but they stay on your computer when you sync. Songs and photos can't be deleted off the iPad at all.
I think the reason why Apple hasn't implemented deleting songs and photos off the iPad is that the syncing UI would be a nightmare. Think of how you can tell which apps or videos are synced to the iPad - each app or video has a checkbox in iTunes that gets checked or unchecked to show whether or not it is synced to the iPad. Now imagine what would happen if each song or photo had to have that checkbox. Once the number of items get up into the thousands, which can happen with songs and photos, it would be quite unmanageable. Two-way syncing wouldn't require such an unwieldy interfce, but then as has been pointed out, there would be the danger of losing data.
I would rather risk losing data/pictures/vids/etc through some accident/error then not be able to organize/delete what's on my device. This is really like Cut & Paste all over again, isn't it?
Just listen to you people. Instead of defending Apple for crap like this we need to demand that Apple lets us do more without using it's iTunes.
Sure there are work arounds but this should not be happening in the first place! Does not matter as Apple will NEVER let the iPad stray to far from the mommy itune.
The iPad could be so much more if Apple let it. I hope the other slates, coming soon, will not be so encumbered!
Sure there are work arounds but this should not be happening in the first place! Does not matter as Apple will NEVER let the iPad stray to far from the mommy itune.
The iPad could be so much more if Apple let it. I hope the other slates, coming soon, will not be so encumbered!
Just listen to you people. Instead of defending Apple for crap like this we need to demand that Apple lets us do more without using it's iTunes.
Sure there are work arounds but this should not be happening in the first place! Does not matter as Apple will NEVER let the iPad stray to far from the mommy itune.
The iPad could be so much more if Apple let it. I hope the other slates, coming soon, will not be so encumbered!
It's only a matter of time.
The iPad is selling well as it's the best Tablet out there by a mile right now.
Unless Apple brings out an "iPad Pro" or something more or an independent tablet, not tied to iTunes, and not build, designed or wanted by Apple to be a full stand alone device.
When other tablets come along by other makers which do offer full independence. And they will do. It may take 1 year, it may take 5 years, but they will come.
People who want more than the Apple iTether experience will flock to them.
There will always be people who want the safe and fool proof Apple way of working, but there are and will be people who want more, and if Apple choose to never offer those people want they want, they will move away elsewhere, perhaps reluctantly.
I do see a place for Apple to satisfy both types of user, but we shall have to wait and see what Apple do in the next few years.
Except the 'optimizing' usually increases the file size.
3.2GB of photos on my PC, becomes 5.7GB in iTunes. :/
Actually I tend to take the RAW image from my DSLR and then tweak/crop the original down to what I want it to be, then use Photoshop to save a jpeg image compressed down as well as Photoshop can without damaging the quality.
If any other "optimising" is done on my images, I can only imagine it would degrade them in one way or another.
Yes, but you see, this is where you are wrong.
You have your images stored in only 3.2GB of space, when in fact, they should be stored in a more correct 5.7GB of space.
Don't worry, one day you will understand where you went wrong
Well optimizing can mean different things in different situations; my bet is that iTunes is optimizing for on-device performance and not file size or quality. I'm pretty sure that in the days of the iPod Photo the optimizing step would produce uncompressed images of exactly the right size for the display. I'm not sure if that is still the case but it might be given how quickly you can flick between photos on an iPad.
The more I re-read this thread and look at the OP's problem, the more incredulous I feel. We are talking about something as simple as being able to delete a photo or reorganize a slideshow?!? This is 2010, right? Sheesh!
...which would not be anything to fret about if I could just turn around and delete that pesky photo from my iPad again. I'll take this scenario any day over not being able to modify the contents of my iPad at all when I'm away from my computer (which happens a lot, since it's a desktop machine).
I fail to see why 2-way syncing has to be complicated. Why not give the user the option of replacing only the files that are newer on the source device, and not deleting any files that exist on the target device but not on the source. Oh wait, that would not be good, because, God forbid, granny Louise might find it too confusing. Jeez Louise!
I can not buy the "it will make syncing more complicated" argument!
A few questions from the sync program during sync would be good too and solve the problem. If Windows can do this Apple should be able to do it too!
I love my iPad and will buy the iPad2 version when it arrives, just get a little peeved at Apple's games!
A few questions from the sync program during sync would be good too and solve the problem. If Windows can do this Apple should be able to do it too!
I love my iPad and will buy the iPad2 version when it arrives, just get a little peeved at Apple's games!
I don't wish to use the word "Stupid" as such.
However, is it becoming more obvious at time goes on that Apple is seeing it's success as a company by developing computing items that are specifically aimed towards the non technical area of society that, and I've heard this phrase used for iMac's also. Don't want to mess about and have to fiddle/worry about things.
Just use their Apple product to simply and easily get the job done, and move on.
Is there a danger, as this market grows and Apple seem, in their eyes to be ticking all the right box's to keep this market happy and selling more and more of this type of designed product that the things we, or some of us, and I use the term in a humours way, Techy Types are going to be left behind/left out in the cold by Apple as we are the old market and we are not where the big money is for them.
Apple can and go make simplified, in some areas, devices that look pretty, and do what they have been made to do in a reliable way.
They can sell these things by the bucket load.
They can sell apps and take a nice chunky cut for themselves
They are going to make it even easier for Mac users with their new store and another chunky cut for themselves.
They can sell Books, Music, Video on their iTunes store for in many cases a higher price than a physical copy, to a generation that just cannot be bothered to look elsewhere to buy and/or wait 2 or 3 days for the item to arrive in the mail.
Given this is happening now. I do wonder if we are hoping for the impossible that Apple may shift its current win win focus back to satisfy people who wish to do more than Apple allows.
Perhaps, Windows, Linux, Android is going to be the only place in time for people who wish not to follow the line of sheep?
Just a thought.
However, is it becoming more obvious at time goes on that Apple is seeing it's success as a company by developing computing items that are specifically aimed towards the non technical area of society that, and I've heard this phrase used for iMac's also. Don't want to mess about and have to fiddle/worry about things.
Just use their Apple product to simply and easily get the job done, and move on.
Is there a danger, as this market grows and Apple seem, in their eyes to be ticking all the right box's to keep this market happy and selling more and more of this type of designed product that the things we, or some of us, and I use the term in a humours way, Techy Types are going to be left behind/left out in the cold by Apple as we are the old market and we are not where the big money is for them.
Apple can and go make simplified, in some areas, devices that look pretty, and do what they have been made to do in a reliable way.
They can sell these things by the bucket load.
They can sell apps and take a nice chunky cut for themselves
They are going to make it even easier for Mac users with their new store and another chunky cut for themselves.
They can sell Books, Music, Video on their iTunes store for in many cases a higher price than a physical copy, to a generation that just cannot be bothered to look elsewhere to buy and/or wait 2 or 3 days for the item to arrive in the mail.
Given this is happening now. I do wonder if we are hoping for the impossible that Apple may shift its current win win focus back to satisfy people who wish to do more than Apple allows.
Perhaps, Windows, Linux, Android is going to be the only place in time for people who wish not to follow the line of sheep?
Just a thought.
Wow. Two way syncing is very complicated, mainly because you have to consider all sorts of unusual situations. Two way syncing is not complicated for the simple situation you describe, but consider:
1. I delete one picture on device A, but not on B. When I sync, do I move the missing picture from B to A, or remove it from B and leave A alone?
2. OK, #1 was easy. Now I delete one picture (X) from B and a different picture (Y) from A. When syncing, do I: 1) delete X and Y from A and B; 2) move X from A to B and Y from B to A; 3) move X from A to B and leave A alone; 4) move Y from B to A and leave B alone?
3. Now I have three devices. I delete one picture from B, but not A or C. When I sync B and C, do I delete the picture from C? If so, then what if I delete a different picture from C, independently add a picture to A, then sync A and C. OK, C now has the new picture. Then I sync to B. What pictures do you want on B?
4. I delete one picture from A, a different one from B, a still different one from C. I add a picture to A, add a different on to B, and rearrange C. Now I sync A to C, then delete a picture from C but not A. Then I sync A to B, then sync B to C. Then I sync A to C. What pictures do you want on each device?
You can come up with unusual situations by yourself - give it a try! It's fun!.
True, for each situation, you can come up with a rule that covers it. But the difficulty is that the rules are complex (because, as we have seen above) the situation is complex. Thus the user becomes unsure what will happen to their pictures. This is true even for mega-ultra-power-tech-users like yourself.