Dark Mode is better, but...

Discussion in 'OS X Yosemite (10.10)' started by tekboi, Oct 1, 2014.

  1. tekboi macrumors 6502a


    Aug 9, 2006
    I still don't understand why we don't have a full dark mode for Yosemite. I'm glad the dock and menubar is finally dark. But what about the window backgrounds and bezels. Shouldn't those be dark also for consistency purposes.
  2. KALLT macrumors 601

    Sep 23, 2008
    I’m not happy with the dark mode. I like how the menu bar looks, but the Dock seems to have an added glow to it. If only it was slightly darker, it would look perfect! Perhaps it was too much work to change the windows as well. I hope that developers at least update the menu bar icons soon!

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  3. kissmo macrumors 6502a

    Jun 29, 2011
    Budapest, Hungary
    Maybe because there is Mr. Ive (I've) messed up the OS.
    I don't get it either... Some nice dark transparent windows would be normal...

    Maybe they wait for next OS release to add it as feature and call it a revolution - although I started to like Yosemite despite the bad battery life under safari.
  4. Cougarcat macrumors 604

    Sep 19, 2003
    What's interesting is they did start a full dark mode, you could enable it in previous betas but it has a lot missing. My guess is they either had an internal debate about how far it should go, or they ran out of time and it'll appear in 10.11.
  5. leman macrumors G3

    Oct 14, 2008
    Because it would probably break a lot of existing software. You don't want to get black text on black background.
  6. cookies! macrumors 6502

    Jul 3, 2011
    this is why I've always been confused by the entire concept of dark mode on OS X. It never seemed feasible.
  7. leman macrumors G3

    Oct 14, 2008
    Well, the 'dark' and 'light' are actually two visual themes which are available in Yosemite. There are all kinds of smart APIs that work around these themes and the UI elements can adapt accordingly. Manu of the core UI elements can detect which theme they are running and change their color/drawing etc. to match (e.g. a label would use white text color when running under dark theme and black text color when running a light theme).

    So what the 'dark' mode in Yosemite actually does is toggle the theme on selected system UI. Doing it on third-party applications would be impossible without severely restricting the freedom of the developers. Potentially, this is possible, but it would require explicit developer support.
  8. besler3035 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 29, 2004
    Grand Rapids, MI
    Wallpaper please!
  9. KALLT macrumors 601

    Sep 23, 2008
  10. 576316 macrumors 601

    May 19, 2011
    I like your background image, where's that from?
  11. koifish22 macrumors member


    Sep 2, 2014
    Pale Blue Dot
    This is why I don't like dark mode. At least with it enabled, the notification center matches the menubar.
  12. JoelBaka macrumors member

    Aug 7, 2014
    I actually thought Dark Mode would be similair to the dark theme in iBooks, so reading would be better. Or that everything around the one program you're using would be dark. So I was like, huh that's nice. But I didn't get the fuss. Then I enabled it and saw what it actually was :eek:

    And I love it, it makes Yosemite incredibly beautiful for me. I have a white macbook, so all the whiteness was a tad overkill. Dark mode creates a more confined and homey feel, and it makes the colours of the apps pop out.

    But to be honest, I think that all the other 'Dark Mode' features you can think of are actually more separated. So I think they'll be available as separate settings, either still in Yosemite or in 10.11.

    But I was pleasantly surprised by Dark Mode! :D
  13. AeroZ macrumors 6502


    Aug 7, 2013
    I suggest that everybody who thinks that dark mode should have dark finder windows etc too then use the feedback assistant and tell Apple about it (like I did). That's the only way we might see full dark theme in the future.
  14. Liam555 macrumors regular


    Jul 14, 2014
    The whole purpose of dark mode is to make it easier to focus on the main content. Making the main content also dark defeats the point?
    I understand why people want dark mode to be everywhere, but a part from the aesthetics, there's no real reasoning behind it. :confused:
  15. KALLT macrumors 601

    Sep 23, 2008
    I suppose it begs the question: what is the main content? Apparently, Apple thinks that apps are the main content, complete with toolbars. But you may equally think that the content of those apps, e.g. a webpage inside the browser, is the ‘main content’. The grey toolbars are visually very dominant and expose the user to a similar amount of distraction as the menubar and the Dock. I think Apple’s dark mode is more about aesthetics rather than purely focus, regardless of what Federighi said.
  16. DiabBarca macrumors regular


    Oct 20, 2013
    Omdurman - Sudan
    Menus and sidebars :(

    If only the added the right click menus and sidebars to the dark mode that would be awesome

  17. 8CoreWhore macrumors 68020


    Jan 17, 2008
    Big D
    Spotlight Search Field unusable

    It is still using black font over black background. Here, I typed "dark mode", you can't really see what you are typing...

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  18. 8CoreWhore macrumors 68020


    Jan 17, 2008
    Big D
    We need to be able to easily make certain things dark at night - for instance Reader doesn't allow dark background with white text like iBooks does and Readability, etc. It's so trivial to give us choices but then Jony Ive's eyes will bleed.
  19. jharrison macrumors newbie

    Oct 17, 2014
    Like Dark Mode

    Find it easy on the eyes and will keep it for a while. Yosemite Standard mode is too bright and washed out for me.
  20. lotones macrumors regular

    Aug 6, 2010
    I totally agree. And Safari should have a dark mode also. Especially for the menu bar and Top Sites screen. It would look badass.
  21. petsounds macrumors 65816

    Jun 30, 2007
    You have a messed-up install or something strange is going on that's mucking with your font. In Dark Mode the Spotlight search text shows up as white for me.

    In regards to why Apple shelved more integration with the OS/apps, I think they'll probably have introduce an appearance API so that developers can select appropriate text and graphic colors. Or they may have just decided it's just too much effort for everyone to bother.
  22. jarofclay73 macrumors 6502


    Nov 15, 2008
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    I'd like to change the color of the blue folders.
  23. PhillyGuy72 macrumors 65816


    Sep 13, 2014
    Philadelphia, PA USA
    I like the darker theme personally. I grabbed the beta wallpaper a few months ago and dropped the brightness/contrast.

    I placed some here, click "DOWNLOAD" for all image in a .zip file

  24. tripmusic macrumors 6502


    Oct 26, 2012
    I dig Dark Mode a lot, but I do have this issue with the utility App, Hardware Monitor's Menu Bar.

    Screen Shot 2014-10-19 at 2.10.27 AM.png

    It's funny though, in the first few Betas it actually displayed the text, but it wasn't very legible. It got worse somehow
  25. Proginoskes macrumors member

    Oct 19, 2014
    Tempe, AZ
    Write up a CSS with some defaults that you like. Then you can go to: Safari > Preferences ... > Advanced > Style Sheet and choose it.

    It can be overridden, but it's better than nothing.

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