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Also, a very easy security feature I hadn't though of until was mentioned by a 'genius' at the Apple Store...the numbers don't all have to be different. Obviously you don't want something like 8 of the same, but if you double or triple up a couple times, it exponentially expands the pool of probabilities that any hacking must deal with.

Why would you even think that the numbers have to be different? It would make it a lot easier if a 6 digit passcode only contained different numbers - if the one who attemtps to crack it knew that. Luckily, it's probably not something you assume, when cracking a passwort. Take the passphrase "whywouldyoueventhinkthat"... you wouldn't change that because some letters are used more than once, would you. and, because of it's length it's probably a lot safer - and easier tonremember - than something like "G5!hebifk5".
 
It’s funny because Apple Stores use Cellebrite machines to transfer data from device to device. I don’t think they use them much anymore, but stores definitely have them.
What ? this doesn't even make sense, why would Apple have to use third party tolls to break into Apple devices, Apple probably has just hardware to connect to phones with lighting devices to transfer data using password from the user.
what Israel firm is advertising is to break into iOS devices with out password.
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As long as Apple continues to have bugs that allow people to break in, how can Apple claim the high ground with regard to privacy. At the end of the day, it does not matter whether its a bug (in Apple's case) or a feature (in Google's case) it still puts our devices at risk.

Security is not Zero or One.
it's all about how hard it is to break in.
And this is cat & mouse game.
There is no software out there that cant be broken.
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The problem is that with a closed system like Apple, we really don't know if it was a bug or a feature. The FBI really backed off Apple and that is not like the government, unless they have negotiated something else in private.

This dance could go on forever, "Ops here is another bug (we won't tell what exactly it was, but we fixed it)". Then wash and repeat for the next Apple NSA feature that gets exposed.

Apple seems to have better security, but after all Apple is also the best marketing company and prefers marketing over real technology, so we really don't know do we?

Android is Open Source, and why is FBI not paying million dollars to break into Android devices ?
Open Source software is supposed to be secure.
 
I hope it’s worth it to them, because the cost this tech comes at is far greater than the price tag.

Their buyers are governments, and governments don't pay too much attention to cost since the taxpayers are the ones paying for it.

The cost I was referring to is the greater, non-monetary cost they pay. The consequences of police continually escalating their arms race in weaponry and surveillance against the public that employs them. A public that only has one means of recourse...
 
If you’re in a jurisdiction which would consider that an illegal search anything they find would be inadmissible.

Good question? What would make it an illegal search? In the US, you could argue that you are not being forced to self incriminate since your face is clearly visible and unlocking the device requires no affirtmitive action on your part to reveal the code to access it. Is that any different than if the police find a scrap of paper on you with a passcode and it unlocks the device? In other countries, how do privacy laws interact with search laws?

I don't know the answer; and it is an interesting and important question as technology changes what was once the norm with capabilities not forseen by current laws or centuries old documents that set the basis for them.
 
Good question? What would make it an illegal search? In the US, you could argue that you are not being forced to self incriminate since your face is clearly visible and unlocking the device requires no affirtmitive action on your part to reveal the code to access it. Is that any different than if the police find a scrap of paper on you with a passcode and it unlocks the device? In other countries, how do privacy laws interact with search laws?

I don't know the answer; and it is an interesting and important question as technology changes what was once the norm with capabilities not forseen by current laws or centuries old documents that set the basis for them.

Interesting reading about the topic: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/14/forced-biometric-unlocking-not-allowed-iphone/
 
Android is Open Source, and why is FBI not paying million dollars to break into Android devices ?
Open Source software is supposed to be secure.
Just mentioning Android is too much of a generalization.
There are Android phones with more advanced security features than the iphone which would also be harder to bypass by anybody. One such example is Samsung's Knox security platform, another example is HTC's upcoming blockchain-based smartphone.
 
How come Israelis are really good at cracking code?
It seems like all the security breaching software is coming from over there.

Inside info has to come from some where. Someone either worked some where or someone knows someone from somewhere ;) If you see oil under your car that means there is a leak somewhere ;)
 
Not fake, but not what Apple claims either.

For example, they claim to be very privacy minded. For example, your data in iCloud is encrypted. This encryption has keys that only Apple has, but that you as the owner cannot control. So this encryption is for marketing only. At the end of the day, Apple, NSA, FBI, criminals, and any other government agency that wants to forge up a court order to look at anything they want.

The technology exists, and has for years, to allow users full control of the encryption on iCould. But Apple has not implemented it. Why? Because it is an additional cost and Apple's marketing is working right now without it. Most people believe Apple's marketing and would never question the company.

The result is that we get fantastic claims and mediocre delivery. Now I agree that Apple's delivery is better than the alternatives, but that does not mean that we, as users, should not be demanding more. We need to force Apple to live up to its marketing claims.

I like the way you placed criminals on the same playing field along with the other groups.
 
If i recall correctly, Apple did not "refused to provide the FBI with tools to unlock the device" they simply said they had no way to do what they were asked.....

That's what Apple says though, And any company going on the privacy been will tell you the same, regardless..

Trust. And of privacy is important, why should i want to 'trust' y own data with 'a company' i can do a much better job at anyway even for convince ?

After all, the element of 'privacy' is keeping it to yourself... And if you give it up to someone, your not keeping it to yourself anymore.. Your doing exactly the opposite, so what better way than saying "We value your privacy" as a foot-hold to make you trust someone else
 
How come Israelis are really good at cracking code?
It seems like all the security breaching software is coming from over there.
It’s become yet another North Korea, only, a well funded one, & this is what you get from that scenario. But, they’re OUR North Korea. Ignoring international law + being extremely bad at making friends + running an arms race against everyone around them, invading your neighbors & seeking a constant state of war = military spending out the wazoo on weapons and surveillance. So you can expect to see more where that came from as we march toward war with their neighbor.
 
As long as companies continue to find ways to break into devices, there is no need for legislation requiring manufacturers to provide law enforcement with back doors.

So the cynical me would think that the tech companies leave small exploits in their devices that these high-end companies can exploit. And they do it on purpose so that there isn't a push for a legal requirement to do so.

I mean Apple looks a whole lot better if their software is broken by Cellebrite vs. helping law enforcement themselves.
 
So the cynical me would think that the tech companies leave small exploits in their devices that these high-end companies can exploit. And they do it on purpose so that there isn't a push for a legal requirement to do so.

I mean Apple looks a whole lot better if their software is broken by Cellebrite vs. helping law enforcement themselves.

I kind of agree with you, I don't know anything about software making but if it was so easy for any to security to be broken by "cyber security" companies then how come software for banks, airports, gov. military is not affected? If there were so much exploits we will often see ATM machines spitting out cash.
 
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