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Snoopy4

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Maybe it's been there for a while, but I noticed when looking at file details on my iTunes movie collection 7.1 is now listed along with 5.1 on the ATV description. This wasn't there before. I thought it was just the 10 Cloverfield movie as a new release until I did a fair amount of checking other titles. They don't play in 7.1, but literally all of them now show it. Maybe it's finally arriving...
 

Snoopy4

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So after fiddling this morning, DD+ 7.1 audio is here on ATV 4 for iTunes titles.

Things I've found:

The vast majority of Disney titles are live with 7.1, exceptions are lesser titles.
Pixar is hit and miss.
For the Star Wars franchise, only "A New Hope" does not have the 7.1 Audio, all the others do (A New Hope is the limbo film).
Hit and miss all around the place with other studios. Martian is 7.1 as is 10 Cloverfield and Revenant. Interstellar is still 5.1.
New film descriptions are uploading with the file. I see a lot of 7.1 on new titles.

Perhaps catalogs are bulk uploading one studio at a time or something. It doesn't appear they're going to force us to pay again to get the audio upgrade, as it should be.

Thumbs up!
 

Speak

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I've rented on iTunes a few films with my 4th generation Apple Tv just to test the 7.1 DD+ capabilities but I'm completely disappointed by the fact that they play in standard Dolby Digital 5.1. I've got the latest Denon 2200 receiver connected to a 7.1 channels setup but so far I haven't succeeded in playing the 7.1 content. And boy I've tried: I did rent the latest Terminator, Martian and Deadpool, all listed as 7.1, but to no avail. Needless to say that my setup works perfectly when playing a 7.1 Audio track from a Blu Ray. Please, what am I doing wrong?
 

Snoopy4

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I must be missing something. All of these movies are listed as 5.1 in the iTunes store. Where do you see anything about 7.1?

In ATV scroll down to the file details. Also select best audio available in the settings menu. Any of them with 7.1 are playing 7.1. It only shows on on the ATV. I'm assuming it's also ATV4 only, we don't have 3s anymore and I don't believe it was capable anyway.

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I've rented on iTunes a few films with my 4th generation Apple Tv just to test the 7.1 DD+ capabilities but I'm completely disappointed by the fact that they play in standard Dolby Digital 5.1. I've got the latest Denon 2200 receiver connected to a 7.1 channels setup but so far I haven't succeeded in playing the 7.1 content. And boy I've tried: I did rent the latest Terminator, Martian and Deadpool, all listed as 7.1, but to no avail. Needless to say that my setup works perfectly when playing a 7.1 Audio track from a Blu Ray. Please, what am I doing wrong?

I watched a few minutes of the most recent Terminator flick to test it as its one that is listed and it plays back 7.1 fine. Maybe restart your ATV 4 and check your audio settings in the settings menu. My daughter is watching Snow White (animated) right now in 7.1. Checks out on all of our equipment and we have a mix of Denon, Marantz and Yamaha. You may also need to cycle your receiver or pre-amp audio format. I had to do that with the Yamaha. I hit pure direct then back to DD. The rest picked it right up.

Steps:

Set audio on ATV to best audio available.
Restart your ATV
Cycle your receiver/pre-amp
 
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Snoopy4

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Looks like it's been rolling out since the end of March....they should have bragged about it and content availability as it puts them on par with Vudu HDX on the audio side of the house.

Who the heck is running the Marketing Department?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204069
 
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Rigby

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In ATV scroll down to the file details. Also select best audio available in the settings menu. Any of them with 7.1 are playing 7.1. It only shows on on the ATV.
Ah, I see. Weird that it only shows up on the ATV but not on iTunes. I will not be happy if they start giving downloaded copies a second rate treatment and don't include the same quality as when you stream them from Apple's cloud though. I like to stream my content locally from my own iTunes server.
 

Snoopy4

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Ah, I see. Weird that it only shows up on the ATV but not on iTunes. I will not be happy if they start giving downloaded copies a second rate treatment and don't include the same quality as when you stream them from Apple's cloud though. I like to stream my content locally from my own iTunes server.

Got ya. Yeah, that would suck if that's what they are doing.
 

Speak

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Steps:

Set audio on ATV to best audio available.
Restart your ATV
Cycle your receiver/pre-amp

Thanks Snoopy, I've just followed the steps you outlined in your previous post. Then I purchased The Force Awakens on iTunes, played it on my AppleTv and, lo and behold, now on my Denon AVR 2200 Receiver's display the audio input switched to 7.1 multichannel! And finally sound comes out of the two rear speakers! At long last.
 

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Checked my latest purchase, "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi" and its showing Dolby Digital Plus 7.1, however many other movies are not. Also, its not showing in the iTunes Store, and its not showing on Mac, only showing DDP 7.1 on my Apple TV 4.
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EDIT: Out of my 55 movie library I have on iTunes, only two movies support Dolby Digital Plus 7.1:
“13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” and “The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies” (Only this One, the other two Hobbit movies don’t)
 
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Snoopy4

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Checked my latest purchase, "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi" and its showing Dolby Digital Plus 7.1, however many other movies are not. Also, its not showing in the iTunes Store, and its not showing on Mac, only showing DDP 7.1 on my Apple TV 4.
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EDIT: Out of my 55 movie library I have on iTunes, only two movies support Dolby Digital Plus 7.1:
“13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” and “The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies” (Only this One, the other two Hobbit movies don’t)

I have a feeling availability is new so the audio won't get updated unless the studio sends Apple a new file. I think Disney's wide availability is probably because of the linking method they use for authorization. Every time they make a change to DMA, I see a cover art change on ATV, always getting the newest version of the film. That's the only studio I've found that 7.1 is widely available.
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At long last.

You've got that right. They should have come out the gate with 7.1.
 

slapppy

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Nope. ATV software can't do it at all. It's ridiculous. Infuse can yet ATV 4 can't LOL
 

Speak

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Only iTunes purchased movies have access to 7.1 DD+, if you just rent them iTunes downloads the same old same old DD 5.1 audio. Just discovered it now.
 
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