DDR4 in the next MacBook Pro release?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Nanker/Phelge, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Nanker/Phelge macrumors regular

    Dec 6, 2010
    Any thoughts guys? I know the standard is starting to make the rounds to the manufacturers and Haswell is said to support it.
  2. duervo, Apr 17, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2013

    duervo macrumors 68020


    Feb 5, 2011
    Hynix started making DDR4 modules last year to send to their "customers". AFAIK, they were the first to start manufacturing it. Very likely that Haswell systems will come with it, but time will tell for certain.

    If Haswell systems do come with DDR4, then I suspect that will account for most of the performance gains in those systems over current gen CPU's. Of course, lots of people will attribute the performance gain to the CPU, so I expect there to be a fair bit of confusion in the "blogosphere" or forums in that regard.
  3. Mr MM macrumors 65816

    Mr MM

    Jun 29, 2011
    haswell dont support it, we know broadwell does. Haswell E supports that.

    The idea is 2014, and given the leaked tid bit about sata express in chipset 9 (broadwell chipset) Im glad Im going to buy a notebook only next year or the other
  4. Lil Chillbil macrumors 65816

    Lil Chillbil

    Jan 30, 2012
    Am I the only one who doesn't really care about the Macbook pro line ever since they went retina and ditched the 17'' models.
  5. Nanker/Phelge thread starter macrumors regular

    Dec 6, 2010
    In this case I was referring to the Retina MacBook Pro's as well
  6. Freyqq macrumors 601

    Dec 13, 2004
    Not haswell, but probably broadwell. The rmbp already uses DDR3L, so that's pretty fancy already :)
  7. dusk007 macrumors 68040


    Dec 5, 2009
    Not really. DDR3L has been around for like 2 years and could work on most systems just like that if they allowed the different settings. So basically any desktop and some notebooks.
    It also only saves a very small bit of energy. Like 1-2W under load and 0.4W idle. Also no performance difference whatsoever. Not fancy.

    DDR4 will be pretty neat for integrated GPUs. Honestly I think with the whole IGP push this year and last they should be ready for DDR4 now and no wait so long. CPUs don't need it but those IGP sure do and it was ready for a while. DRAM manufacturers have mostly been waiting for the go ahead of the CPU/GPU guys.
    End of 2014 will be DDR4 arrival.
  8. emigrant macrumors newbie

    Jun 15, 2009
    New York-Bklyn
    DDR4 2015 imho, 2014 only server/workstation machines.
  9. Mr MM macrumors 65816

    Mr MM

    Jun 29, 2011
    couple that with the new kaveri design with GDDR5 and the new broadwell igpu arch, with DDR4 we might see a good improvement there

    and that 1-2w and 0.4w figures are actually around 20min+ of battery, still the thing that draws more energy is the screen, but anything is welcome
  10. AppleMacFinder macrumors 6502a


    Dec 7, 2009
    You both are right, DDR4 will be supported in Haswell.
    At the moment it is confirmed to be in server versions:

    DDR4 could come to consumer Haswells as well, but not at the same time with server.
    Or it could not come at all, and we will have to wait until Broadwell. Who knows :rolleyes:
  11. MrNomNoms macrumors 65816

    Jan 25, 2011
    Wellington, New Zealand
    I doubt we'll see it in the next MacBook Pro release - the features listed on the wikipedia sounds like the high end workstations and servers have the most to benefit from it hence if anything the Mac Pro users should be getting excited before us MacBook Pro users.
  12. armaster macrumors newbie

    Nov 6, 2012
    What is a Mac Pro? :rolleyes:
  13. Doward macrumors 6502a

    Feb 21, 2013
  14. Squilly macrumors 68020


    Nov 17, 2012
    Isn't there already DDR5? :confused:
    Or is that GPU only?
  15. Mr MM macrumors 65816

    Mr MM

    Jun 29, 2011
    its GDDR5
  16. cube macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    DDR4 seems to be delayed because of the weak PC market.

    If we are lucky we'll see it on the client next year, but that's just what I hope for.
  17. Mr MM macrumors 65816

    Mr MM

    Jun 29, 2011
  18. cube macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    Just search the news.
  19. Lancer macrumors 68020


    Jul 22, 2002
    So I don't have to worry about my new 2012 iMac being outdated in a few months when the new CPUs are likely to surface :rolleyes:
  20. Mr MM macrumors 65816

    Mr MM

    Jun 29, 2011
    i have searched and came out with the confirmation that haswell EX will come with DDR4, we still dont have hard intel evidence aside long leaked things on broadwell

    so source?

    I dont see economical or other technical reasons for this
  21. cube macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    I said client, not server.
  22. Mr MM macrumors 65816

    Mr MM

    Jun 29, 2011
    kk, i still dont see the reason.

    the leaked info is from 1 year ago, while its not as solid, intel leaks are usually accurate

    and given the ramp up on production for the DDR4 by the 4 manufacturers, and given that broadwell is basically a SoC most of the times, it quite a huge ordeal to change all to DDR3
  23. cube macrumors G5

    May 10, 2004
    The news says DDR4 is now not expected to be in volume production until 2015/2016 because of lack of demand.
  24. Mr MM, Apr 20, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2013

    Mr MM macrumors 65816

    Mr MM

    Jun 29, 2011
    again please show me that, I havent saw it, crucial and samsung are moving forward with the 2014 plan, the others I have no clue, they are more tight lipped

    one thing that I forgot, there are only 3 now, crucial bought elpida, so it remains, crucial, hynix that has an apparent partnership with samsung (which doesnt make much sense), and samsung. So we are only missing hynix here

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