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Is it me or does it seem like SSD storage prices has not declined in relation to the increase in processor power. I mean, $500 more to go from 512GB to 1TB? That's a huge percentage of the total cost.

The $500 gets you a better powerbrick, a couple of CPU cores and a couple of GPU cores as well as the SSD space. But...

Apple has always gouged on RAM and storage. Back in the day I used to buy what I needed and upgrade later with aftermarket HDD and RAM sticks. Now it's a profit center for Apple. On a more positive note you do get what you pay for - the SSD specs are best in class.
 
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Apple has always gouged on RAM and storage. Back in the day I used to buy what I needed and upgrade later with aftermarket HDD and RAM sticks. Now it's a profit center for Apple.

What we saw as a feature, Apple realized was a bug...

Normally they aren't very good at fixing bugs, but when it's a bug fix that leads to way more revenue...they know how to get those kinds of bugs fixed..
 
this is a great deal but I really, really wish it was on a 10 core or higher one. my guess is that not many are buying the 8 core
Most people will see little to no practical benefit from the 10 core, either today, or when the computer is 5y old.
 
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The $500 gets you a better powerbrick, a couple of CPU cores and a couple of GPU cores as well as the SSD space. But...

Apple has always gouged on RAM and storage. Back in the day I used to buy what I needed and upgrade later with aftermarket HDD and RAM sticks. Now it's a profit center for Apple. On a more positive note you do get what you pay for - the SSD specs are best in class.
Ahh maybe when I clicked on the 1TB option I didn't notice the change in other specs.
 
Then don’t. That’s all I need and I’m glad I can buy it. If it started at 32GB and 1TB it wouldn’t cost $1999.
It would if Apple didn't whack on a 300,000% mark up on RAM and SSD.

TBH, no one would complain about base 16GB/500GB if the mark ups to higher specs weren't so eye watering.

I want a 16" MBP w 32GB/2T, but the price tag makes me wait. Very annoying. And yeah, my use case means a 16/500 is useless to me. I already use 800GB of my current 1TB of SSD space, even with constantly emptying the recycle bin, and having to store some files on external drives, which is annoying when I need them quick. My next machine *needs* 2TB minimum, and preferably 4TB. I currently need the 16GB I have, so wouldn't be comfortable with less than 32GB in my next machine, especially with no ability to upgrade after the fact. If Apple weren't so ruthlessly greedy, no one would complain, and I'd have my new machine by now.
 
It would if Apple didn't whack on a 300,000% mark up on RAM and SSD.

TBH, no one would complain about base 16GB/500GB if the mark ups to higher specs weren't so eye watering.

I want a 16" MBP w 32GB/2T, but the price tag makes me wait. Very annoying. And yeah, my use case means a 16/500 is useless to me. I already use 800GB of my current 1TB of SSD space, even with constantly emptying the recycle bin, and having to store some files on external drives, which is annoying when I need them quick. My next machine *needs* 2TB minimum, and preferably 4TB. I currently need the 16GB I have, so wouldn't be comfortable with less than 32GB in my next machine, especially with no ability to upgrade after the fact. If Apple weren't so ruthlessly greedy, no one would complain, and I'd have my new machine by now.

Sounds like the MBP you need would cost as much as a used car with what Apple charges for RAM/SSD.

It really is crazy that they artificially inflate the prices on storage and memory the way they do but it's mostly because they can and there's no other way to get these things since they're not user replaceable.
 
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Does anybody understand how this works? How can Amazon drop Apple listed price by 249$ and still make a profit? Do Apple sell very large numbers of their products to Amazon at such a big discount and, if so, why?
This is basically how retail for any merchandise works. Sell in bulk to a retailer (which saves a lot of costs in shipping and inventory) with a price cheap enough for the retailer to also make a decent profit. If amazon choose to make less so they can sell more, then it's up to them.
 
Does anybody know if the 14 and 16 MacBook Pro have a metal casing? Feels like cheap plastic...
 
This is basically how retail for any merchandise works. Sell in bulk to a retailer (which saves a lot of costs in shipping and inventory) with a price cheap enough for the retailer to also make a decent profit. If amazon choose to make less so they can sell more, then it's up to them.

I get it, but if this is the case can you imagine Apple’s margins, those must be incredible if they can sell it in bulk to Amazon 250$ less than their listed retail price and both companies still make profits.
 
I get it, but if this is the case can you imagine Apple’s margins, those must be incredible if they can sell it in bulk to Amazon 250$ less than their listed retail price and both companies still make profits.
Do Amazon often make considerably more "profit" than most retailers because they basically circumvent most countries tax rules? So they can sell products at cost price and make the "profit" (or not in accounting terms!) on the sale still.
 
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Love it. I'm borrowing that. How to resist consumerism.
To resist consumerism put the money into investments like stocks, bonds, a business and even land.

I take joy in seeing a rise of 20% or more within a business week

I only replace when
  • It's a business expense
  • When its beyond economical repair
  • Security Updates cease to be issued
These generally has a scheduled replacement by 2yrs, 7yrs and 10yrs.
 
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Do Amazon often make considerably more "profit" than most retailers because they basically circumvent most countries tax rules? So they can sell products at cost price and make the "profit" (or not in accounting terms!) on the sale still.
That was the case years ago. These days Amazon has been legislated into making customers paying sales tax in most jurisdictions (that I’ve bought from anyways).
 
I get it, but if this is the case can you imagine Apple’s margins, those must be incredible if they can sell it in bulk to Amazon 250$ less than their listed retail price and both companies still make profits.
Given $250 is just a 12% discount, it‘s not too astounding that Amazon can pull it off given their scale and size of bulk orders. But in any case, Apple is quite obviously making quite a decent amount on these laptops nevertheless.
 
To resist consumerism put the money into investments like stocks, bonds, a business and even land.

I take joy in seeing a rise of 20% or more within a business week

I only replace when
  • It's a business expense
  • When its beyond economical repair
  • Security Updates cease to be issued
These generally has a scheduled replacement by 2yrs, 7yrs and 10yrs.
Yeah sure, you get an average of 20% rise per week huh. You must be the investment guru.

Anyway, apart from the ridiculous flex, wise words indeed.
 
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Yeah sure, you get an average of 20% rise per week huh. You must be the investment guru.

Anyway, apart from the ridiculous flex, wise words indeed.
I am not offering any service to that effect.

When I am sent notice of insider buying it tends to go up that high.
 
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