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It depends how one views software and licenses. It is a constant utility such as mobile phone service, internet, electricity, heating, water/waste removal, etc or is it like buying a clothing item or electronic device with warranty for a year (or more depending) where it’s purchased once.

Think about it.
fully agreed. The subscription model works for something we need regularly and constantly, like gas, electricity, water, mobile services. For some utility apps like notes taking, vector graphic design apps, we only use it once a while, it's hard to justify the monthly subscription.
 
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fully agreed. The subscription model works for something we need regularly and constantly, like gas, electricity, water, mobile services. For some utility apps like notes taking, vector graphic design apps, we only use it once a while, it's hard to justify the monthly subscription.

I can only speak for myself and I go out of my way to find software without a subscription and is on par or near on par to software it’s replacing. At present I have had no issues and I speak with actions and my wallet and not just be vocal about it. If more people took action we would not be sliding down this path.
 
They did; that was the "large influx of cash" part of the post you replied to. But unless you want your software to be released once and not have continued development after that, "build it until it's perfect, then release it, then retire" doesn't make much sense.

I do subscription models for a few select apps that I feel are worth it; including one in this bundle. Other times, if a developer offers a subscription OR a permanent license, I'll get the permanent license. Panic Transmit is that way; you can buy annual licenses, or you can buy version 5 at a set price and be done with it, but not get "the next version". I, like some others here, remember bundles like these having actual permanent licenses tied to specific versions of software; this seems like it would be nice if you need parallels and want to try some of the other apps, but in general, a bundle of subscription apps is very underwhelming.
The app won't need to be updated if they finished it before launch. The problem is most apps aren't finished before launch. Eventually, they get tired of fixing their app and either lock future updates behind version upgrades or they tack on a subscription.
 
One problem is it creates a real issue with funding development. The company gets a large influx of cash when new releases ship and then has to manage that cash for the months or years it takes to create the next release. Better for the company to get a smaller, steadier, amount month after month.

The other issue is the support of old versions. Companies want to keep users on recent versions because expertise on old versions fades quickly and creates a lot of technical debt. This is also why you are seeing companies be more aggressive in dropping support for older versions.
I see no issue here. You sell a license, you do bugfixes and minor features for as long as the cash collected allows and then come up with major features and sell the upgrade to stay alive. The user does not want those features? All right, user stays on the old version, it will still work for a couple of years. Then repeat again.
Subscription model brings no motivation for a company to come up with major features regularly.
In the end that’s how majority of businesses work. A printer company gets cash on release of a new printer and then it is doing free drivers updates for the next 10 years, while releasing a new better printer every year.
 
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I hate subscriptions as much as the next person, but the unfortunate reality is they're not going anywhere.

Support one time purchases whenever and wherever you can when it makes financial sense, but realize many companies now only keep a nominally "purchase to own" version of their software available that, either by virtue of only receiving updates for 12-18 months, (and) or being prohibitively expensive, only serves to make their subscription offering more attractive.

The upside is that if you shop smart and wait for sales, many of these subscriptions are significantly cheaper (and in the case of something like Office, more feature rich) than they were in the pre-subscription era even if you were the kind of person who only updated every 3-5 years (case in point I paid ~$20 for a 5 user, 1 year Office 365 sub from Amazon recently)

As for this particular "sale," If you have an M1 Mac and need access to Windows on ARM AND can make use of even one of the subscriptions on offer (1Password for example) the deal isn't bad (but also isn't great). I already subscribe to 1Password (which I also own a license for... ugh), so I'll definitely be looking into this. (New users only... ughhhh 🤮)
 
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Can't even buy to own and run ARM based Windows 10. subscription Keep your Intel Mac's Boys.
I don't think sales of this new Parallels is gonna do too well. Windows on ARM is kinda half baked currently.

Parallels 16 is required to run on macOS 11 Big Sur (v15 won't run at all), so this will be a very good year for Parallels upgrades revenue (on x86 of course).

There's a lot of hate on here for the bundled software, normally I would agree that these bundles are full of meh, but for my line of work this bundle has loads of things I will actually use, so I'm pretty happy to pay for the upgrade this year :D
 
While subscription software is more and more common, I observe that the questions this model raises are very, very poorly understood.

I will just take one example. Some people say that one may consider software like things that we use on a daily basis like water, electricity, or waste removal service, which are subscription services.
First, each of these services requires accumulated cost on the provider side (who have to supply water, produce electricity, or dispose waste on a daily basis), which software does not (whether or not I launch a piece of software like a virtualization platform will not require the developers to actually work on it ---services with online servers are different).
Second, when comparing with water, electricity, and waste removal, one should remember that for each of these services, citizens have a high expectation on traceability of costs and/or the ability to switch from one provider to another at no cost. For instance, electricity providers may not double prices next year just because they like or their shareholders are a bit more hungry. Also, the competition field comes with clear rules on being able to switch to another provided and about the cost of switching. The software subscription model is different: get users to depend on the product and not able to switch without to face a high cost (e.g., port VMs to another platform).

And this is just one issue, there are many more...
So, to me, the only answer is with my wallet and my decisions. So far, I could always find a perpetual license or open source alternative and I always avoided services that I did not need and that are bound to software (i.e., that would just let some company say: look you are using our servers every day so it is legitimate that we bill you everyday). The only exception is my iCloud, which is enough for me.
 
I see no issue here. You sell a license, you do bugfixes and minor features for as long as the cash collected allows and then come up with major features and sell the upgrade to stay alive. The user does not want those features? All right, user stays on the old version, it will still work for a couple of years. Then repeat again.
Subscription model brings no motivation for a company to come up with major features regularly.
In the end that’s how majority of businesses work. A printer company gets cash on release of a new printer and then it is doing free drivers updates for the next 10 years, while releasing a new better printer every year.
Printer companies make money selling you toner or ink cartridges for years and years.
 
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One problem is it creates a real issue with funding development. The company gets a large influx of cash when new releases ship and then has to manage that cash for the months or years it takes to create the next release. Better for the company to get a smaller, steadier, amount month after month.

The other issue is the support of old versions. Companies want to keep users on recent versions because expertise on old versions fades quickly and creates a lot of technical debt. This is also why you are seeing companies be more aggressive in dropping support for older versions.
Well... farmers have been able to manage these fluctuations in cash/value flow for millennia!

No excuse.

And then there’s also customers out there that just want to own a piece of functioning software as long as they please. The software development has become so agile that we’ve all become full time beta-testers (I’m looking at you Microsoft). They introduce a new feature and break something else. They might even remove stuff that I liked. Rinse and repeat. And they want to charge me for it monthly.

Latest update to Office 2016 for Mac introduced daily reminders that can’t be disabled about switching to subscription based 365. Why? I’m happy with version 2016. Don’t need your OneDrive etc.
 
Well... farmers have been able to manage these fluctuations in cash/value flow for millennia!

No excuse.

And then there’s also customers out there that just want to own a piece of functioning software as long as they please. The software development has become so agile that we’ve all become full time beta-testers (I’m looking at you Microsoft). They introduce a new feature and break something else. They might even remove stuff that I liked. Rinse and repeat. And they want to charge me for it monthly.

Latest update to Office 2016 for Mac introduced daily reminders that can’t be disabled about switching to subscription based 365. Why? I’m happy with version 2016. Don’t need your OneDrive etc.
Are you kidding me? Farmers operate in a protected and subsidized markets. Look at milk as an example. The price of milk is set by Governments and closer to the farms by the region's dairy board. The dairy board even tells farmers to throw their milk away because the board cannot get the highest price if there is too much coming to market. No wonder the cows are happy, they have a monopoly! And this monopoly is protected by the Government.

Part of Microsoft's reason for switched to subscriptions was to get away from the 1-2 year cycle of upgrades and patches in between (Office 95, 98, 2000, ....). Now they operate on a continuous upgrade model and fix problems as they arise without having to write potentially breaking patch scripts to shoehorn the fix into the current version. These are a pain in the butt and one of the things many developers hate the most. With continuous delivery, you make a small change, test it, and ship it. This is much better than having to either make a patch script or hold the change and bundle it with tens of thousands of other changes for version Next.
 
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Are you kidding me? Farmers operate in a protected and subsidized markets. Look at milk as an example. The price of milk is set by Governments and closer to the farms by the region's dairy board. The dairy board even tells farmers to throw their milk away because the board cannot get the highest price if there is too much coming to market. No wonder the cows are happy, they have a monopoly! And this monopoly is protected by the Government.

Part of Microsoft's reason for switched to subscriptions was to get away from the 1-2 year cycle of upgrades and patches in between (Office 95, 98, 2000, ....). Now they operate on a continuous upgrade model and fix problems as they arise without having to write potentially breaking patch scripts to shoehorn the fix into the current version. These are a pain in the butt and one of the things many developers hate the most. With continuous delivery, you make a small change, test it, and ship it. This is much better than having to either make a patch script or hold the change and bundle it with tens of thousands of other changes for version Next.
No I’m not... Of course I can see from their (and the shareholders) point of view that a continuous cashflow is more fun, but they got by with the previous business model for decades. And wasn't talking about cows. I was talking about farmers who for millennia have had to save and eat the yearly harvest slowly, knowing that it should last for a whole year. It's called making a budget.

Now lets talk about cows: In todays subscription based software market you and me have become the cows. We're being milked every day on these subscription things. And if we do not give milk anymore we'll get shot even though we gave plenty of milk last year.

For me it's about choice. They require me to give them money continuously, but I have very little saying about the product they're charging for. They might remove features I love tomorrow and I would still have to pay. They might add stuff I don't like or refuse to fix stuff I complain about for years.

So your future will also bring shopping malls where you pay monthly to access the shop. Everything in there is free, but they might only have cheese when you wanted milk. You still have to pay. Next week they might have milk... perhaps.

Software developers are free to chose their business model. But I'm going freebie and now enjoy some open source office thing.

And nothing prevents them from continuously work on building/testing wonderful new features. And release bug fixes as I believe it's fair to do for at least 2 years after release. On the next launch I can decide if the new features are worth it for me or not. And they are welcome to have both business models in parallel: "Beta"-testers that pay monthly to get and test latest features, while I get bug fixes/security patches and only new features when I pay.
 
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Printer companies make money selling you toner or ink cartridges for years and years.
Good point. I took the first example out of the blue. But let's say a smartphone. A smartphone maker is just selling you the gadget and supports its updates for next 2-3 years. You want news OS features - you have to buy new one or if you are fine you just continue using your own thing for free.
 
Parallels 16 is required to run on macOS 11 Big Sur (v15 won't run at all), so this will be a very good year for Parallels upgrades revenue (on x86 of course).
Ummm... nope? Runs just fine.

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That bundle is questionable at best, as are their sales tactics in general. I've already filed a complaint with the attorney general of Texas consumer protection office regarding their unethical practice of advertising a $79.99 subscription as "purchase" but unsururpsingly nothing has happened.
 
Subscription is okay if it’s something you get use out of everyday, but for occasional use it’s
Ummm... nope? Runs just fine.

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That bundle is questionable at best, as are their sales tactics in general. I've already filed a complaint with the attorney general of Texas consumer protection office regarding their unethical practice of advertising a $79.99 subscription as "purchase" but unsururpsingly nothing has happened.
whaaa!?

it would not run when I tried it.
my trial for 16 expires tomorrow, will see if I can get it running on 15 then.
 
Or they could... you know.., finish the software, iron out the bugs, and then sell it.
That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how software works in a modern ecosystem. It's never "done". It can be rendered inoperable at any moment by an operating system change. Updates are a necessity. And frankly, you should want developers to be successful and motivated.
 
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Subscription is okay if it’s something you get use out of everyday, but for occasional use it’s

whaaa!?
Actually its the other way around. Microsoft Office or Photoshop, for example, used to be really expensive. Now you can use it when you need it and drop it... saving a ton of money.
 
Ummm... nope? Runs just fine.

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That bundle is questionable at best, as are their sales tactics in general. I've already filed a complaint with the attorney general of Texas consumer protection office regarding their unethical practice of advertising a $79.99 subscription as "purchase" but unsururpsingly nothing has happened.
Had some issues with getting party kernel extensions working but followed the instructions here and now my copy of PD 15 works. Thank you! All this time I thought I needed to upgrade to 16 to make it work with Big Sur 😅
 
That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how software works in a modern ecosystem. It's never "done". It can be rendered inoperable at any moment by an operating system change. Updates are a necessity. And frankly, you should want developers to be successful and motivated.
And that shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how society works in a modern ecosystem. People want what they paid for. They should do the job because the work is rewarding, not because they can milk more revenue out of it. That’s what people tell other professions, so what makes people who play on their computers all day any different? Maybe an OS update rendered it inoperable. Or maybe they added a little line of code that intentionally adds issues as the OS version number increases. There is no oversight to be sure the code isn’t sabotaged so what, we should take the word of someone who couldn’t even perform a normal transaction that it’s not? Shesh. Let’s not pretend software programmers have some sort of intrinsic moral code. Especially not the ones asking you to subscribe to an app that draws lines.
 
One problem is it creates a real issue with funding development. The company gets a large influx of cash when new releases ship and then has to manage that cash for the months or years it takes to create the next release. Better for the company to get a smaller, steadier, amount month after month.

The other issue is the support of old versions. Companies want to keep users on recent versions because expertise on old versions fades quickly and creates a lot of technical debt. This is also why you are seeing companies be more aggressive in dropping support for older versions.
As both a developer and an end user: I can honestly say that both points are utter BS invented by marketers. Developers (like producers in most other industries) should price their products fairly, and end users should not expect to receive updates beyond any version they've purchased. If 1.0 meets my needs, I'm under no obligation to fund a developer's dreams of a 2.0 release. If 2.0 looks good, though, I'll probably pay for it, too.

This constant-rental scam makes no sense. It costs a lot to start a farm, raise livestock and distribute meat to retailers, but I don't owe the ranchers and butchers anything after my initial purchase of a rib-eye. If it was good, I'll probably buy more when the mood hits; if not, the rancher better find something else to do for a living. I'm not obligated to pay his rent in the mean time.
 
As both a developer and an end user: I can honestly say that both points are utter BS invented by marketers. Developers (like producers in most other industries) should price their products fairly, and end users should not expect to receive updates beyond any version they've purchased. If 1.0 meets my needs, I'm under no obligation to fund a developer's dreams of a 2.0 release. If 2.0 looks good, though, I'll probably pay for it, too.

This constant-rental scam makes no sense. It costs a lot to start a farm, raise livestock and distribute meat to retailers, but I don't owe the ranchers and butchers anything after my initial purchase of a rib-eye. If it was good, I'll probably buy more when the mood hits; if not, the rancher better find something else to do for a living. I'm not obligated to pay his rent in the mean time.
Well a very old sight of things ... what’s wrong giving people who produce products you like in a more stable manner.
the worst thing in our current economic system is - that the farmer or developer has to go to a bank or live from his savings until he is successful or has an ongoing revenue stream.

and that’s what Abos are about - generating an ongoing stream of money

the only thing i criticize is - almost ALL Abos are far to expensive!!!

a dollar a month is a loooot of money if you consider paying for hundred apps and streaming services.

they should have started with amounts like 10 cent - but there we have apples greed in the way!
 
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