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Until Adobe can get to TRUE pay per use. As in micropayments for minutes using their products, it'll be NEVER ADOBE for me.

Affinity (or anything else) forever.
 
Deals offered to first-time customers have never sat well with me. I understand the motivation, from a buisiness perspective, but from a customer relations perspective, it can leave loyal customers feeling a bit taken-for-granted.

There's a new store down the road from me, for example, which offers 10% off for first-time customers. I mean, I get it, but why not reward loyalty and returning customers, as opposed to shooting for one-off deal seekers who might turn into loyal customers?
Because sadly the bean counters have decided that keeping loyal customers happy earns the company less money than attracting new customers, at least in the short term which is all they care about.
 
Deals offered to first-time customers have never sat well with me. I understand the motivation, from a business perspective, but from a customer relations perspective, it can leave loyal customers feeling a bit taken-for-granted.
Problem is that consumers are generally too lazy to switch providers, so companies aren't motivated to offer deals for loyalty.
 
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I've stopped upgrading after CS2. Granted the newest version have a lot of time saving features🥰, but not worth it for stuff that I'd use once a blue moon.😐

Preach on, brutha.🤩🤩🤩 Testify.🥰

I've been trying to ween myself off PS, but so far it's been rough. GIMP is anemic. Others lacked the features I can't live without or have radically different workflow. Gawd, if I hadn't started with PS 2.0, I wouldn't be stuck in this mess now.🥺
I've been a gimp user for ... jeez ... 15-20 years? Man. I'm happy with it. You get used to how it works, just like one gets accustomed how how PS works.

The Gimp team made a major update a couple of years ago that increased color bit depth from 8 bits per channel to 16, 32 or even 64 bits of color data per channel.
 
Hey Adobe, allow us to once again purchase programs like Photoshop upfront for a single fee and stop forcing us into both a subscription purchase & a cloud service that people should neither trust or adhere to.

Adobe products should not be connected to the internet for privacy reasons, and should not be regularly calling back home to Adobe’s servers while sharing metrics about what projects you’re working on or what you’re editing.

I’ll stick with Photoshop Elements until Adobe provide a more complete Photoshop program that can be purchased for a single up-front fee then detached from the online cloud system.

If you’re currently using Creative Cloud services, know that various elements of the projects you’ve worked on, private or not, are being shared by the software with Adobe, in ways that are not transparent, apparent or able to be switched off.

Even with an upfront non-subscription based program Like Photoshop Elements, CC is heavily integrated and removing it is a huge pain that required multiple tools and work-arounds, and still leaves the owner of the software dealing with multiple unavoidable pop-ups to reinstall CC.
This is true, there are many services running in the back just to use Photoshop Elements. For what? Not necessary but to collect data and protect from pirating etc.

I have been an Adobe user from the beginning (when it was not the current Investment group company) and will probably end my usage this year.

Any of their “stand-alone” products are a lie now (they just have one alone now I believe). They do not work with the next year’s OS, forcing you to upgrade, so you are paying yearly if you move on to a new OS. might work in the first few versions of the OS, but mysteriously starts to have issues or bugs when it worked fine when you receive a automatic update for the program. Even if you downgrade you have the issues.

Unless your company pays for the products or you have to use their products, more on. Adobe’s target client now is corporate and that is where they have the monopoly and make their money. Good for them, but not for non corporate users.

Their products are good, but with a hefty price.
 
I agree for the most part, but the one thing I can't seem to be able to replace is the access to the volume and quality of typefaces available in Adobe Fonts. I notice options aren't listed for this in that replacement graphic above, unless I overlooked it.
Google Fonts and many others?
 
I'm old enough to remember going to the shop and buying Photoshop in a physical box!

Discs and a big fat manual…

Paid once and that was it — until you felt like upgrading.

I despise this subscription model.

Switched to Affinity and after a bit of a rocky start, everything is A-OK.

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Downside was you'd spend the afternoon feeding disks into the Mac… but… heh! Life was slower back then. 🤣

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It seems you have forgotten how much the cost was back then.

While SaaS can be annoying it is still cheaper than upgrading every third year to the new version.

Piracy was rampant because the price was well outside of what hobby users could afford.

That’s not to defend Adobe in any way, I’ve personally moved to Affinity for most things.
 
I've been a gimp user for ... jeez ... 15-20 years? Man. I'm happy with it. You get used to how it works, just like one gets accustomed how how PS works.

The Gimp team made a major update a couple of years ago that increased color bit depth from 8 bits per channel to 16, 32 or even 64 bits of color data per channel.
Does GIMP have a layers feature? I absolutely cannot function without layers or layers masking, unless I want to fill my HD with a million copies of the same photo with a few subtle changes.😬

I tried it 10 years ago, no layers. Gave it another go 3 years ago. Still no layers. If it has finally added a layers feature, I might give it another try.

PS Element has become more and more functional over the years. If they add the Refine Edge feature in Element, I drop a C-note on that. Gawd, I envy how easily my brother does hair/fur masking in PS CC.
 
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I dropped Adobe as soon as physical copies became a thing of the past. I don’t miss anything about it. Affinity Designer and Procreate are plenty good enough for my graphic design needs. They could drop it to $10 a month and I’d pass.
 
The sale price is how much Creative Cloud should be normally.

I don't like the subscription model, and I'll prolly take some hate for this, but I'm willing to cut Adobe some slack because the Master Suite was like $1,800 in 2012. Which translates to about $2,300 in 2022 (ouch). So $600 per year, that's almost 4 years before you'd hit the full cost, at which time you'd likely be upgrading if you hadn't already.

Ideal? No. Do I like it? No. Is the pricing on Adobe at least understandable? I think so. Would $40/mo be a better full time price? Yes
Do I want other companies to continue innovating and chipping away at what only Adobe is able to offer? Yes. I think it will drive down costs overall.
 
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