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Using US manufactured, maintained, designed and operated rig. Suddenly forgotten by vast majority of the US including the President.

and many people forgotten that around 40% of BP shares are held by UK shareholders and 39% US shareholders...

I guess it's pretty tough to say "We are in this together" for some people...

PS: I am not a British!
 
You're surprised at the price and that we pay more in the U.K. for the exact same stuff. You think cars here cost the same in the U.S.? You think American's would be sitting calmly back and taking it to pay nearly $7 a gallon for petrol, like we do here?

If petrol hit $6 a gallon in the U.S., there would be hell to pay. British have been beaten down for so long by ******** taxes (I give you road tax for instance and not a penny of that tax actually goes to the roads) that the British people simply lay down and take the flogging.

Read the daily mail?
 
If you think that is the "real" price of a phone, I advise you take a reality check.

My BB Bold 9700 was £370 unlocked. I bought it release day.
My Nokia N97 was £390 unlocked. I bought it a week after release day.

Both are flagship models that both had better tech specs than the comparable iPhones of their day. £500 is not the "real" price of the phone, it's extortionate.

your prices, when converted to US dollars, are about $150 more than what we are paying for unsubsidized phones in the US

your prices, to be comparable to US prices, should be
16gb- GBP 404.57
32gb- GBP 472.11

Now, I would, if I were you, be ok with a little rounding to get to those "x99" prices Apple charges for all their products (even app store apps must have a price ending in .99), but that would put the prices at GBP 399 and GBP 499

So basically what I'm saying is that, combined with conversion rates and "Apple" pricing schemes, you should be paying 399 and 499

I feel your pain
 
We added a few bucks to help clean up your oil spill.


Steve
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Sent from my iPhone 4

Another yank typical anti British comment. The company renamed itself to bp years ago. 1/4 of the shares are owned in the US. 1/3 of the worlds oil is consumed in the US and you have a population of 300m ish out of 6bn. US drive for cheap cheap oil (try paying around $8 a gallon like we do) has caused the spill not the British. The yanks drive around 5 litre pick up trucks and don't care about the cost. The blame lies on one country, it's just a shame that it has come to this for the US to finally take the environment seriously like Europe does. Maybe the US will sign up like the rest of the world, instead of refusing at the cost of billions.
 

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your prices, when converted to US dollars, are about $150 more than what we are paying for unsubsidized phones in the US

your prices, to be comparable to US prices, should be
16gb- GBP 486.09
32gb- GBP 567.24

Now, I would, if I were you, be ok with a little rounding to get to those "x99" prices Apple charges for all their products (even app store apps must have a price ending in .99), but that would put the prices at GBP 499 and GBP 599

and that is still over $100 less than what they are charging (in USD)

I feel your pain

Right except a couple things
1. US unsubsidized iPhones are still locked to AT&T which defeats the whole point of paying full price. Canada/UK (and possibly the rest of the world) unsubsidized price is for a fully unlocked iPhone 4 you can use with any carrier at anytime without playing cat and mouse game with Apple and Dev Dream
2. Duties and import fees
 
Another yank typical anti British comment. The company renamed itself to bp years ago. 1/4 of the shares are owned in the US. 1/3 of the worlds oil is consumed in the US and you have a population of 300m ish out of 6bn. US drive for cheap cheap oil (try paying around $8 a gallon like we do) has caused the spill not the British. The yanks all drive around 5 litre pick up trucks and don't care about the cost. The blame lies on one country, it's just a shame that it has come to this for the US to finally take the environment seriously like Europe does. Maybe the US will sign up like the rest of the world, instead of refusing at the cost of billions.

I don't drive trucks and I have no plan to purchase one but....

/sarcasm
DON'T TAKE AWAY MY TRUCKS
 
It doesn't have anything to do with us, at all.

I think your assuming that everyone understands that just because the company has british in the name, doesn't mean all or even any british people are responsible for the spill

people will be immature, not much you can do about it unfortunatley
 
Right except a couple things
1. US unsubsidized iPhones are still locked to AT&T which defeats the whole point of paying full price. Canada/UK (and possibly the rest of the world) unsubsidized price is for a fully unlocked iPhone 4 you can use with any carrier at anytime without playing cat and mouse game with Apple and Dev Dream
2. Duties and import fees

well actually I was wrong...I converted into Euros, not GBP, I edited the post to be more accurate

and I wasn't saying they should import one from the US
in addition, iPhones come from China initially, the ones to be sold in the UK go directly there, the don't come to the US first, so unless UK duties and import fees are significantly higher than those in the US (I have no clue, perhaps they are), than that wouldn't account for a price differential

people in the US pay full price so they don't have to sign a 2 year...some people just don't want to sign one for whatever reason, even though even with the new, higher ETF, signing it and cancelling is still cheaper than buying unsubsidized
 
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/937645/
For once, I don't think we get a bum deal. (but it is still a heck of a lot for a phone)

Re oils spill. Blaming the whole of the UK is ridiculous but so is blaming BP when no other oil companies are prepared for a similar accident (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10317817.stm)
It was an unfortunate accident and I really don't think Obama has the right to talk about it the way he does ("I am ruler of all of you, I can and will punish you!" It's not really his place....) (granted they should be made to clean up the damage but he can't say he wants to fire the CEO)
 
Another yank typical anti British comment. The company renamed itself to bp years ago. 1/4 of the shares are owned in the US. 1/3 of the worlds oil is consumed in the US and you have a population of 300m ish out of 6bn. US drive for cheap cheap oil (try paying around $8 a gallon like we do) has caused the spill not the British. The yanks drive around 5 litre pick up trucks and don't care about the cost. The blame lies on one country, it's just a shame that it has come to this for the US to finally take the environment seriously like Europe does. Maybe the US will sign up like the rest of the world, instead of refusing at the cost of billions.

Just a point, but me driving a truck can't in any logical way be linked to an aging oil well bursting because the company responsible for operating and upkeeping it decided not to put modern security features on it, so it's sort of ridiculious to make the claim you just did

that being said, its also ridiculious to blame it on the british people or government. It is BPs fault, and theyre a company, not a country
 
well actually I was wrong...I converted into Euros, not GBP, I edited the post to be more accurate

and I wasn't saying they should import one from the US
in addition, iPhones come from China initially, the ones to be sold in the UK go directly there, the don't come to the US first, so unless UK duties and import fees are significantly higher than those in the US (I have no clue, perhaps they are), than that wouldn't account for a price differential

people in the US pay full price so they don't have to sign a 2 year...some people just don't want to sign one for whatever reason, even though even with the new, higher ETF, signing it and cancelling is still cheaper than buying unsubsidized

I wouldn't mind signing 2 years contract and breaking it (like you said it's cheaper than buying it at full price even with new ETF) as long as the damn phone is unlocked.

Unfortunately it's not :rolleyes: and AT&T won't unlock it even if our contract expired or we paid the ETF (or if we paid full price)
 
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/937645/
For once, I don't think we get a bum deal. (but it is still a heck of a lot for a phone)

Re oils spill. Blaming the whole of the UK is ridiculous but so is blaming BP when no other oil companies are prepared for a similar accident (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10317817.stm)
It was an unfortunate accident and I really don't think Obama has the right to talk about it the way he does ("I am ruler of all of you, I can and will punish you!" It's not really his place....) (granted they should be made to clean up the damage but he can't say he wants to fire the CEO)

agreed. Obama assumes he has more power than he really should, and people go along with it because they think he is some sort of messiah even though hes been worse in 1 year than Bush was in 8
 
I think your assuming that everyone understands that just because the company has british in the name, doesn't mean all or even any british people are responsible for the spill

people will be immature, not much you can do about it unfortunatley

The company isn't called British petroleum. It's called bp. It renamed is self for this very reason.
 
Just a point, but me driving a truck can't in any logical way be linked to an aging oil well bursting because the company responsible for operating and upkeeping it decided not to put modern security features on it, so it's sort of ridiculious to make the claim you just did

that being said, its also ridiculious to blame it on the british people or government. It is BPs fault, and theyre a company, not a country

Its called supply and demand. While everyone in the USA still drives 5 litre V8 trucks, there will be a requirement for most of the worlds oil to go there. So yes, you driving a truck does directly contribute to the issue.

The rig was built and run by a company called Transocean. It was run by their employees and their processes. So in reality, its not even BPs fault.
 
I am a US citizen living int he UK. I am always amazed by the complaining here about the price of imported goods. The whining about taxes also gets old.

So, yes, it appears the iPhone costs more in the UK, but:
  1. The differences is due mostly to taxes. Those taxes pay for services that US residents have to buy privately, such as health care. My elderly father in the US has paid more than $800,000 on medical bills, and in spite of earning nearly $3000/month in pension and having the same health insurance as members of Congress, he is now indigent. I personally prefer paying my taxes for the NHS to being a victim of the US medical industry.
  2. The £ has fallen in value with respect to the $. All of us in the UK had better get used to that if we don't start addressing our trade imbalance.
  3. In the US the iPhone is locked to AT&T - this devalues the phone compared to the UK where we have many network providers.

Finally, for what it is worth, I have no doubt the oil spill was the joint responsibility of corrupt US officials/inspectors and greedy BP executives, so it is a joint US-UK problem.
 
We added a few bucks to help clean up your oil spill.


Steve
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Sent from my iPhone 4

You realise BP is at least as American as it is British? (If not more)

40% of shareholders are in the UK
39% are in the US
Deepwater Horizon was US-maintained (in fact, of 126 people on Deepwater Horizon, only 8 were BP employees, since Transocean, a US company ran the well, BP just had a 65% stake in it). Also the failed blowout preventer was US-designed and manufactured
About half of BP is made up of the old Amoco (a US company)
BP's board has 6 British members and 6 US members
BP employs 10,105 people in the UK, but 22,000 in the US (more than double)

Wake up America!
 
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