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Dear Apple, Hidden ain’t no hidden when everybody knows how to get to it. Why is that so hard to understand???

sniffies said:
Sometimes I really don’t understand the Apple people working on iOS.

My six-year old said “Shouldn’t the Hidden album be password-protected?”

Notes can be. Why can’t Hidden album???

¡Ay dios mio!
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I guess it's fair, considering they don't seem to understand the rest of the world :D
 
I use the Hidden Album as a place for pictures that I don't want to accidentally scroll by when I'm showing friends / family / coworkers pictures on my phone. Granted, would be nice to have a password protect for that but... it's served its purpose for me.

I see it as a "hidden from all photos" album.
 
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BigMcGuire said:
I use the Hidden Album as a place for pictures that I don't want to accidentally scroll by when I'm showing friends / family / coworkers pictures on my phone. Granted, would be nice to have a password protect for that but... it's served its purpose for me.

I see it as a "hidden from all photos" album.
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I think there should be a choice overall to secure certain data on the device beyond the initial unlock of everything. Or do a guest account already that is always barebones.
 
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BigMcGuire said:
I use the Hidden Album as a place for pictures that I don't want to accidentally scroll by when I'm showing friends / family / coworkers pictures on my phone. Granted, would be nice to have a password protect for that but... it's served its purpose for me.

I see it as a "hidden from all photos" album.
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That seems to be more or less how Apple intended and sees it as well.
 
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with more and more ios devices now getting used for official purposes as well, apple should really consider providing password based or faceid/touchid based locking of photo albums and folders in files app.
 
sniffies said:
Sometimes I really don’t understand the Apple people working on iOS.

My six-year old said “Shouldn’t the Hidden album be password-protected?”

Notes can be. Why can’t Hidden album???

¡Ay dios mio!
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No, sorry but your 6 year old is wrong. Hidden us just that: not visible.

Same way you can hide files on MacOS by prepending a period before the name, or on Windows by setting the Hidden attribute.

Both can be made visible again by any user with the appropriate access - no password required.

Hidden is also also not synonymous with Secure.
 
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Well, typical “Apple knows best” moment.
But given there are still people not knowing iPad Pro supports ”slide over”, I’d say the odd chance of someone knowing where to turn on/off that toggle is not awfully high.
And I do praise that 6-year-old instinct of “password protect stuff that is hidden”. Nowadays, hiding something in a computer by flipping a switch is not really “hiding“ imo. To each of their own I guess.
 
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TiggrToo said:
No, sorry but your 6 year old is wrong. Hidden us just that: not visible.

Same way you can hide files on MacOS by prepending a period before the name, or on Windows by setting the Hidden attribute.

Both can be made visible again by any user with the appropriate access - no password required.

Hidden is also also not synonymous with Secure.
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You’re wrong, sorry. It should have the option of password protection. If a 6 year old gets it, why don’t you?
 
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Bandaman said:
You’re wrong, sorry. It should have the option of password protection. If a 6 year old gets it, why don’t you?
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It's an opinion right? We won't all see eye to eye but just because I don't agree with your opinion doesn't make it "wrong" or mine "wrong" --- Maybe Apple will add this feature? Apple got to where it is by having things that just work, simplicity - adding a layer of complexity, an option to password protect albums, will add a layer of complexity and headache for some people who forget their passwords. That's terrible PR - "Apple lost pictures of my wife that just died and I can't get them back because I can't remember the password!" - etc. or whatever.

Maybe integrating it with face-id and touch-id will help - but I'm just giving an example of the complexity that this ads to the platform that can cause problems. I don't think I'd call the 6 year old wrong or TiggrToo wrong. Having options are the spice of life. I'd support Apple adding it via the touch-id or face-id option.

I agree with TiggrToo that Apple designed this to be a hidden album from the main album, not an encrypted, lockdown, album. Who knows, maybe it'll change someday.
 
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BigMcGuire said:
It's an opinion right? We won't all see eye to eye but just because I don't agree with your opinion doesn't make it "wrong" or mine "wrong" --- Maybe Apple will add this feature? Apple got to where it is by having things that just work, simplicity - adding a layer of complexity, an option to password protect albums, will add a layer of complexity and headache for some people who forget their passwords. That's terrible PR - "Apple lost pictures of my wife that just died and I can't get them back because I can't remember the password!" - etc. or whatever.

Maybe integrating it with face-id and touch-id will help - but I'm just giving an example of the complexity that this ads to the platform that can cause problems. I think I'd call the 6 year old wrong or TiggrToo wrong. Having options are the spice of life. I'd support Apple adding it via the touch-id or face-id option.

I agree with TiggrToo that Apple designed this to be a hidden album from the main album, not an encrypted, lockdown, album. Who knows, maybe it'll change someday.
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It’s not an opinion. There should be an option to lock it if we want. Then both crowds can be happy. Not wanting people to have this option based on some arbitrary idea is what “Hidden” should mean is silly.
 
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Bandaman said:
It’s not an opinion. There should be an option to lock it if we want. Then both crowds can be happy. Not wanting people to have this option based on some arbitrary idea is what “Hidden” should mean is silly.
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an opinion is an opinion, it's not a fact (unless it's an opinion that's in balance with a fact). so yes, it IS an opinion.

i think it would be great if they added the option to lock a folder, but right now, they only offer the option to hide a folder... which does what it claims to do; to hide a folder, not lock it.
 
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fisherking said:
an opinion is an opinion, it's not a fact (unless it's an opinion that's in balance with a fact). so yes, it IS an opinion.

i think it would be great if they added the option to lock a folder, but right now, they only offer the option to hide a folder... which does what it claims to do; to hide a folder, not lock it.
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Who cares?
 
Bandaman said:
It’s not an opinion. There should be an option to lock it if we want. Then both crowds can be happy. Not wanting people to have this option based on some arbitrary idea is what “Hidden” should mean is silly.
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It doesn't really matter what so might want or not want, all that really matters it what Apple does or doesn't do. In this case, so far, for years that isn't how they seem to have intended the hidden folder to work. Could they change it at some point? Sure. Would anyone here know if they would do it, when they would do it, or have much influence on them to do it (or not do it)? No.
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Who cares?
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Well...there you go.
 
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Shirasaki said:
Well, typical “Apple knows best” moment.
But given there are still people not knowing iPad Pro supports ”slide over”, I’d say the odd chance of someone knowing where to turn on/off that toggle is not awfully high.
And I do praise that 6-year-old instinct of “password protect stuff that is hidden”. Nowadays, hiding something in a computer by flipping a switch is not really “hiding“ imo. To each of their own I guess.
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I think it is actually hidden by default. you have to go back in the photos section to enable it. at least it was the case for me after updating to beta 5. Funny you mention the mess that is the iPad gestures. I just found out you can swipe up on a slide over to see a cool selection of all the apps you put in the slide over to select the one you want to use more easily. is that new to iOS 14?
 
itsmilo said:
I think it is actually hidden by default. you have to go back in the photos section to enable it. at least it was the case for me after updating to beta 5. Funny you mention the mess that is the iPad gestures. I just found out you can swipe up on a slide over to see a cool selection of all the apps you put in the slide over to select the one you want to use more easily. is that new to iOS 14?
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No. It’s there since iOS 13.
If that (hidden album) is hidden by default, I think we can have a case here. At least not making it super obvious, though if someone searches, hidden photos might still shows up. I’m not sure.
 
There’s an app for that. If you want to have pictures on your phone that might not be appropriate for your friends to see use an app. That’s the great thing about a smartphone or computer. Just because you can’t do it with the pre-installed apps does it mean it’s not possible.
 
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Bandaman said:
You’re wrong, sorry. It should have the option of password protection. If a 6 year old gets it, why don’t you?
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Exactly the keyword is OPTION. Why is it so hard for Apple to understand people like options? They should have a guest account at least that can't access any data and has only certain app. Maybe let them change things, but it's reset every time the phone is locked again.
 
compwiz1202 said:
Exactly the keyword is OPTION. Why is it so hard for Apple to understand people like options? They should have a guest account at least that can't access any data and has only certain app. Maybe let them change things, but it's reset every time the phone is locked again.
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You do realize you’re on the Apple forums and not Android forums right? Apple isn’t exactly known for giving options.

As to that guest feature you’re talking about I know this is possible with an iPad using MDM. It’s for guests to be able to use an iPad and then it resets for the next guest.
 
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