Decent Password App besides 1Password?

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  1. BasilFawlty macrumors 6502

    BasilFawlty

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    I currently use 1Password v6 but now they are moving to a "subscription" based model so you have to pay yet another danged monthly fee to store 2k of data on their servers. Ridiculous in my humble opinion! I've also heard that Mojave will break extensions in Safari so my 1Pass v6 will no longer work (at least not direct from the browser).

    Does anyone know of any decent password managers similar to 1Pass? I can live without the browser functionality I suppose but would like something that I can sync across devices and store passwords, notes, credit card info etc.

    Any recommendations?
     
  2. zweirad macrumors newbie

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    A friend really likes Dashlane. He's a PC/Android guy, so your mileage may vary. The folks at TheWireCutter really like LastPass and 1Password.
     
  3. jmeas macrumors regular

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    It may be a little premature to look for alternatives if 1P is working well for you right now.

    First, they don’t plan to move to subscriptions anytime soon. Although they certainly encourage it, they haven’t made any public statements about moving to subscriptions altogether. When that time comes (which could be years away for all that we know), I suspect that they’ll give at least a year long grace period.

    As to your other concern, 1P works the same on Mojave as it did on High Sierra.
     
  4. skutar macrumors newbie

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    mSecure

    Right now its on version 5. It will sync among your devices and it works like a charm. been using it for years after checking out a few others....
     
  5. loekf macrumors 6502a

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    Yep, I agree. I tried it on my iPhone, but very annoyed you get an automatic monthly subscription immediately after you create a password etc. So I disabled that one in iTunes (the only way ?) immediately.

    40 euros per year for basically secure cloud storage of a few MB max. is a bit too much for me. LastPass is a bit cheaper.

    However, I'm still not sure what it brings on top of iOS' built-in keychain. Both are enabled via the keyboard.
     
  6. Ulenspiegel macrumors 68040

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    I would recommend Enpass Password Manager.
    No subscription, free desktop version, data saved locally on your device, wide range of cloud sync (iCloud, Dropbox, OwnCloud, GoogleDrive, One Drive & Box), cross platform.
    Lifewire review of Enpass.
     
  7. J.Gallardo, Oct 2, 2018
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    1Pasword is moving to subscription model encouraged by Apple and their "suggestions" about App Store vending.
    If you go to 1Password home web, you can purchase the app from them with a "one time payment" licence. No subscription.
    EDIT: Ok. They go subscription! No more unique payment in their web :mad:
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    Well... It's not clear:
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    https://support.1password.com/explore/whats-new-mac/
    It seems the option should appear when first using the upgraded version... (only if downloaded from their web!).
     
  8. lexvo macrumors 65816

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    I agree. I have used Enpass for 2 years now on my iMac, iPhone and iPad and it works great. I like it that I can sync to my own server. It has a lot of functionality, and they keep updating is continuously.
     
  9. J.Gallardo macrumors regular

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    I just keep using KeyChain... but looking for a second strategy.
    "Buttercup" seems simple & honest, free open software: https://buttercup.pw
     
  10. chscag macrumors 68030

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    Nothing wrong with using the Keychain. It works with Safari, and can be synced across your iOS devices. Why pay for overpriced subscription apps like 1Password when the Keychain is free and provides passwords that are just as secure.
     
  11. NoBoMac macrumors 68020

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    KeePass. Free, open source, multi-platform. And a couple of iOS apps out there for it as well.

    That said, I'm an mSecure user.
     
  12. mpe macrumors 6502

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    I think you can still purchase standalone license from within the app.
     
  13. WilliamG macrumors G3

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    Because 1Password is miles ahead of Keychain in terms of functionality? And there’s no forced subscription? This thread seems like it’s worked up over something that isn’t even true.
     
  14. chscag macrumors 68030

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    I guess the advertisement on their site must be an error then.... And sure, 1Password will store everything for you including the kitchen sink, but is that really necessary? However, if folks want something like that, then I guess they won't mind paying for it.
     
  15. flynz4 macrumors 68040

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    Password Apps come and go. My #1 priority is to use a program from a company that is going to remain in business for the long haul. 1Password (my favorite) and LastPass have been in the game the longest, and offer good support. The economics of these types of programs probably do not work in the long run without a subscription model... and the subscription cost is trivial.

    I do not have to upgrade to the subscription yet... but I probably will anyway. I like my programs to remain up to date.

    /Jim
     
  16. 0970373 Suspended

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    I don’t have a subscription and use 1Password across 2 Macs, 2 iPhones and 2 iPads. All syncing is done through iCloud. Does everything the sub model does except being able to log in via website but I don’t really need it.
     
  17. TheAppleFairy macrumors 68020

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    I like Dashlane myself, I use it on my Mac and iPhone.
     
  18. Skeptical.me, Oct 20, 2018
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    I'm not using it but others I know think the Open Source Bitwarden is good and is similar to 1Password. It's free with some premium features costing $10USD a year.

    https://bitwarden.com/
     
  19. J.Gallardo macrumors regular

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    Yes.
    But there're a lot of passwords & numbers I don't use in the web or apps... I need "a password record book" or "ship's log" in daily life; paper in drawer is a good strategy too, but it's nice to have that "paper" always at reach... (my wife's phone PUK number, for example; kids have blocked it twice!)
     
  20. Mr. Heckles, Oct 22, 2018
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    You don't have travel mode
    2 Step Authentication also protecting your vaults
    Recovery (family version)
    And that's just off the top of my head.

    Sharing vaults
    Cross Platform (I use Windows, Linux, Android, iOS, and MacOS)
    Network settings
    Licenses info (not just drivers)
    Membership info
    A spot for security questions and answers
    TOTP (2 factor authentication for websites build in)
    And more.

    iCloud Keychain lost all of my data, twice. I am not the only one either this happened too (there are others on here that this happened too).
    1Password is $4.99 for 5 users, $1.00 a month per person is a deal. I also got a $125 gift card from them for $99, saving me more money.
     
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    I do not trust ANY servers to have all my passwords (not iCloud, not Dropbox), no matter how many security measures they have. I only do local syncing over WAN, this way the database stays in my computer and my devices.

    1P encourages subscription, but still offers 1 time payment licenses. They just do not advertise it that much.
     
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    Passwords are probably the most important thing you have. You’re gonna rely on some random software to keep it safe and keep it a secret?

    The only two password developers I really trust are LastPass and 1Password. If you’re worried about the price of 1Password, check out the free trial of LastPass. LastPass is roughly half the price of 1Password.

    Note however that 1Password subscription is not that bad:
    - Free updates forever. This might not seem much, but subscription-based apps are updated more often. This is because they don’t have to keep a bunch of new features and release them all at the same time to get viral. So instead of waiting a year to get something cool you will get it today. Not bad.
    - Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, and web version. All included!
    - The more money the developer gets, the more developers and time they can put into the app. I’d need hundred fingers to count all the times I’ve invested in an app and then it turns abandonware. I’m not saying I like to throw money to everyone, but make sure the app you choose have a viable business model. And in today’s climate, subscriptions is a better business model. And this isn’t just some random weather app. It keep all your most important passwords. They better have money for really good developers to constantly make their service more secure.
     

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