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Spinninq

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Never had a decent computer. Only computer I have atm is 10 yrs old hp desktop. yep.

The MacBook Pro 15 Inch retina has always been my dream computer.

I would do anything for it.

So here's the shot.

- Late 2013
- Macbook pro Retina 15"
- 2.3 ghz i7 turbo 3.6ghz
- 512 gb ssd
- 16 GB Ram
- Intel Iris Pro
- Nvidia Geforce GT 750M (- definetly the most important for me on this machine.)

Price : 2000$ CAD no taxes not a cent more.
2000$CAD=1539$USD

Other is

-Middle 2012
-MacBook Pro Retina 15''
-256GB SSD
-8GB Ram.
-Intel Graphics 4000
-Nvidia Geforce 650M
Apple care until april 2016
Comes with case and bag
Price : 1450$ CAD = 1115$USD.

I don't know what is the right call on that one.
Planning on using the computer for the next 3 years, at least...
 

TechZeke

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Late 2013. $400 more gets double the SSD, RAM, storage speed, faster processor, faster GPU.

Honestly, either one will last you 3 years+, and $1115 for the 2012 is still a great price for the machine that it is.

Really both are good, it just depends on your computing needs, and how badly you don't want to spend the extra $400. If you are on a 10 year old HP, I doubt you need any of the extras the late 2013 offers.
 
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Spinninq

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Late 2013. $400 more gets double the SSD, RAM, storage speed, faster processor, faster GPU.

Honestly, either one will last you 3 years+, and $1115 for the 2012 is still a great price for the machine that it is.

Really both are good, it just depends on your computing needs, and how badly you don't want to spend the extra $400. If you are on a 10 year old HP, I doubt you need any of the extras the late 2013 offers.

I'm on a late 10 year old HP because I'm a simple teenager and never really got the money for a powerfull machine. I actually need that nmac for school ;0

Thanks a lot for the advice though, this has been on my head 24/7 for about a week and a half. I have to say I need the extra late 2013 more than ever, as I am planning on doing a lot of stuff with Final Cut Pro X, bootcamp, and play some games like GTA V when I want some fun. I want everything to be fast, extremly responsive, fluid, and yeah.

I was a bit scared because on the late 2013 there is no warranty, do you think these macbooks are strong and will still be here 3 years later with no problemos ?
 

T5BRICK

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I was a bit scared because on the late 2013 there is no warranty, do you think these macbooks are strong and will still be here 3 years later with no problemos ?

Watch the refurb store. You could probably pick up something with a warranty for a little bit more than the used ones you're looking at.
 

snaky69

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Never had a decent computer. Only computer I have atm is 10 yrs old hp desktop. yep.

The MacBook Pro 15 Inch retina has always been my dream computer.

I would do anything for it.

So here's the shot.

- Late 2013
- Macbook pro Retina 15"
- 2.3 ghz i7 turbo 3.6ghz
- 512 gb ssd
- 16 GB Ram
- Intel Iris Pro
- Nvidia Geforce GT 750M (- definetly the most important for me on this machine.)

Price : 2000$ CAD no taxes not a cent more.
2000$CAD=1539$USD

Other is

-Middle 2012
-MacBook Pro Retina 15''
-256GB SSD
-8GB Ram.
-Intel Graphics 4000
-Nvidia Geforce 650M
Apple care until april 2016
Comes with case and bag
Price : 1450$ CAD = 1115$USD.

I don't know what is the right call on that one.
Planning on using the computer for the next 3 years, at least...
If you're getting by with a 10 year old desktop, you clearly don't need much(if any) computing power. With proper care and no hardware problems, either of those computers will last you the next 10 years.

With that said, I'd go with the 2013 model if it were my money.
 

snaky69

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I'm on a late 10 year old HP because I'm a simple teenager and never really got the money for a powerfull machine. I actually need that nmac for school ;0

Thanks a lot for the advice though, this has been on my head 24/7 for about a week and a half. I have to say I need the extra late 2013 more than ever, as I am planning on doing a lot of stuff with Final Cut Pro X, bootcamp, and play some games like GTA V when I want some fun. I want everything to be fast, extremly responsive, fluid, and yeah.

I was a bit scared because on the late 2013 there is no warranty, do you think these macbooks are strong and will still be here 3 years later with no problemos ?
You could get by with iMovie instead of Final Cut, which I do not think a simple teenager could afford once said teenager dropped so much money on a computer. Bootcamp does not require any more power than a normal Windows computer, but you'll need more storage to have 2 operating systems on the same machine. GTA V is unlikely to play very well regardless.
 

Spinninq

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If you're getting by with a 10 year old desktop, you clearly don't need much(if any) computing power. With proper care and no hardware problems, either of those computers will last you the next 10 years.

With that said, I'd go with the 2013 model if it were my money.

Actually, I've been using an iPad as my ''main'' device.

Now that it is time for an upgrade, and there is no coming back on that one, I want to make sure it's the good choice. I've seen GTA V running high settings hitting 40 fps on the GTX 650M so I definetely expect it to run well on the 750m. As for final cut pro, I am simply going to do this thing where you change the date of your mac and the trial extends forever, I'm not gonna drop 300 bucks on it. I wanted to know if the extra money was worth it though, because 600$ CAD is a lot
 
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snaky69

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Actually, I've been using an iPad as my ''main'' device.

Now that it is time for an upgrade, and there is no coming back on that one, I want to make sure it's the good choice. I've seen GTA V running high settings hitting 40 fps on the GTX 650M so I definetely expect it to run well on the 750m. As for final cut pro, I am simply going to do this thing where you change the date of your mac and the trial extends forever, I'm not gonna drop 300 bucks on it. I wanted to know if the extra money was worth it though, because 600$ CAD is a lot
There is not such thing as a GTX 650M. There is a GTX 650, but that is a desktop card, and is about on par with a GT 750M.

You mustn't forget that the 750M is driving a hell of a lot of pixels more than the amount used in most benchmarks for either card. That puts it at a disadvantage when placed in a MBP.
 
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Spinninq

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There is not such thing as a GTX 650M. There is a GTX 650, but that is a desktop card, and is about on par with a GT 750M.

You mustn't forget that the 750M is driving a hell of a lot of pixels more than the amount used in most benchmarks for either card. That puts it at a disadvantage when placed in a MBP.

As
I made a mistake, I was talking about the GT 650M on the 2012 rMBP 15".
 

Spinninq

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You don't "need" a MBP and you plan on stealing FCP with you don't need to install on the MBP you don't need. Spoiled much?

Actually I found a middle 2014 or late 2014 and it was activated in march 2015 so warranty until 2016+ apple care if i want to buy it. Cost 2200$CAD for the computer, and does it really bothers you that im getting final cut pro for free lmao
 

snaky69

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Actually I found a middle 2014 or late 2014 and it was activated in march 2015 so warranty until 2016+ apple care if i want to buy it. Cost 2200$CAD for the computer, and does it really bothers you that im getting final cut pro for free lmao
Piracy and discussion of such is against the forum rules. It is theft, and it is illegal.

I personally don't give a rat's ass that you do it. It doesn't matter that YOU, as an individual, do it. It matters when everyone and their dog starts thinking like you, because once that happens, nobody'll make new software, because nobody will be able to make a living doing so.

You wouldn't work for free now, would you?
 
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Spinninq

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Piracy and discussion of such is against the forum rules. It is theft, and it is illegal.

I personally don't give a rat's ass that you do it. It doesn't matter that YOU, as an individual, do it. It matters when everyone and their dog starts thinking like you, because once that happens, nobody'll make new software, because nobody will be able to make a living doing so.

You wouldn't work for free now, would you?


Oh.... Poor guy.. What will you do ? Sue me in justice for saying I will change the date of my mac ? Gtfo
 

snaky69

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Oh.... Poor guy.. What will you do ? Sue me in justice for saying I will change the date of my mac ? Gtfo
I cannot sue you for it as I am not the owner of the material. And like I previously said, I really don't give a hoot. Apple sure could if they wanted to.

I'd like to see your attitude after a day of hard work for a neighbour or your first job if you were told you weren't going to be paid a dime for it. I'm not so sure you'd like that much. I'd get quite a kick at going "oh, poor guy" at you though.

I'd like to see you tell me to GTFO face to face you entitled little ****. It's easy being a tough guy hiding behind your keyboard. Get over yourself.
 
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Xgm541

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The 650M and 750M are very close in performance and you wont see big differences in GTAV.

I honestly feel bad for this teenager and his decision of his life. Good luck playing GTAV on the 650m/750m on high with 40fps.

Also it's pathetic how you justify changing the time on your computer and being able to use FCP. It's almost as if you're too dumb to actually pirate it, but too poor to afford it. Pathetic.
 

lowendlinux

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The 650M and 750M are very close in performance and you wont see big differences in GTAV.

I honestly feel bad for this teenager and his decision of his life. Good luck playing GTAV on the 650m/750m on high with 40fps.

Also it's pathetic how you justify changing the time on your computer and being able to use FCP. It's almost as if you're too dumb to actually pirate it, but too poor to afford it. Pathetic.

Scriddies can't think for themselves they need youtube and 4chant to think for them.
 
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