Deleting Txt Msg on Iphone

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by raye8141, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. raye8141 macrumors newbie

    Mar 23, 2011
    when you delete txt msgs on iphone, is there a way (for someone else) to recover them?
  2. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus


    Sep 8, 2010
    I think the only way would be for a law enforcement cell phone forensics lab to do it. The easier way (for law enf) would be to subpoena the telco for the text records.
  3. Interstella5555 macrumors 603


    Jun 30, 2008
    That more than likely stored carrier side, and since the AT&T willingly and preemptively handed over complete access to their information under the Patriot Act, they probably already have access to it. That said, you really don't have anything to worry about.
  4. xAnthony macrumors 65816


    Mar 2, 2010
    When you delete a text message, it never actually deletes off your phone. This goes for all phones and computers. The data does not get erased until your phone does hit full capacity. Law enforcement can access this information. This happens in tons of investigation cases. They obtain the phone of a suspect and it breaks the case wide open.
  5. zakfox1986, Mar 23, 2011
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2011

    zakfox1986 macrumors member

    Jul 10, 2008
    The government can. The carrier can. That's about the extent of it.

    But you always have to worry about what's found on the other person's phone. That or if you forget to delete a text on one random day. That or what if your spouse or WTFever you're worried about knows the right person at the carrier or with the government.

    So basically. There is always a way. It just depends how much trouble someone wants to go to in order to find whatever it is you wanna hide.
  6. zakfox1986 macrumors member

    Jul 10, 2008
    The other thing to remember is that your entire phone's data is stored on your computer if and when you sync it. So if you sync your phone at some point and the delete the message later, it could be backed up to your computer undeleted. That's another way it could potentially be sniffed through with the right brain power.
  7. Interstella5555 macrumors 603


    Jun 30, 2008

    that's....not true for a variety of reasons.
  8. Eldiablojoe macrumors 6502a


    Dec 4, 2009
    West Koast
    Oh, lol, I think you'd be surprised. There are technical hurdles that have been overcome that are not public knowledge.
  9. xAnthony macrumors 65816


    Mar 2, 2010
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is true. Just like when you take a picture on a digital camera and the picture gets delete. It's not actually deleted and you can still retrieve the photos. EVEN if the SD card is removed. If you don't believe me, do some research. Obviously someone like you or I could not do this, but law enforcement can. Don't think the delete button ever actually means it's deleted.
  10. Nessaj macrumors newbie


    Mar 16, 2011
    Well, maybe you could just let the guy who send you this txt msg resend it....if it's still in his sent box:D
  11. davelanger macrumors 6502a

    Mar 25, 2009
    Yep, that is why they always say the only real way to wipe a HD is to destroy it in one of those shredders.
  12. xAnthony macrumors 65816


    Mar 2, 2010
    Yup it's true. So much personal information is stored on one of those. From pictures to documents to everything. If it were to fall into the wrong hands.. even with everything deleted.. you could find yourself in a lot of trouble.
  13. Tarzanman macrumors 65816

    Jul 16, 2010
    Yes, they can retrieve texts... and they probably don't need your phone to do it.

    I've been in the server rooms where text messages come through the system (this was for a small cell phone carrier in anothe rcountry). The messages all displayed on the screen in plain text, and it would have been an easy task to log them all.

    I'd very very surprised if the mega-carriers didn't have a way to look up archived messages on the behalf of law enforcement.
  14. edifyingGerbil macrumors regular

    Feb 13, 2011
    that's ********, once data is overwritten once it becomes virtually impossible to recover. the best someone can hope to do, using an electron microscope and the raw platters, is get the magnetic resonance either side of the particular block to see if it's more a 1, a 0, or equal but such a thing would cost a lot of money and the "evidence" produced wouldn't be admissible in court anyway. it would only be used by the CIA or NSA or something.

    you must either be a troll or a d!ckhead cop trying to scare people into compliance
  15. sviato macrumors 68020


    Oct 27, 2010
    HR 9038 A
    use magnets

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