ZnU

macrumors regular
May 24, 2006
171
0
Comment

rjbenson83

macrumors regular
Dec 16, 2013
139
5
Atlanta
31" is going to be a sort of weird size for Mac users for a 4K monitor. Run in HIDPI mode and the UI will be comically large. Run normally and the UI will be quite small — about 10% smaller than on a 13" MacBook Air and 26% smaller than on a 15" MacBook Pro, if my math checks.

Same panel size sold by sharp on apple store though.
 
Comment

ZnU

macrumors regular
May 24, 2006
171
0
Same panel size sold by sharp on apple store though.

True. I don't think it's so nuts as to be unworkable or anything, but it's the sort of thing I, for one, would really want to see in person before plunking down the cash.
 
Comment

chfilm

macrumors 68030
Nov 15, 2012
2,966
1,722
Berlin
I'll just wait for the 28" under 1000$ version and then order it together with the nmp! Still I kind of hope for a tab display update in the looks of the thin iMac.
 
Comment

mintakax

macrumors regular
Dec 19, 2013
174
10
I'll just wait for the 28" under 1000$ version and then order it together with the nmp! Still I kind of hope for a tab display update in the looks of the thin iMac.

I'm waiting to buy two of those also. What is the soonest that we will see these for sale ?
 
Comment

DesterWallaboo

macrumors 6502a
Sep 7, 2003
520
726
Western USA
We source in 4K-6K on a regular basis.... and I still don't see a burning need for a 4K monitor. The only location where a 4K monitor is necessary for us is when monitoring a 4K shoot.
 
Comment

chfilm

macrumors 68030
Nov 15, 2012
2,966
1,722
Berlin
We source in 4K-6K on a regular basis.... and I still don't see a burning need for a 4K monitor. The only location where a 4K monitor is necessary for us is when monitoring a 4K shoot.

Well it would be cool to see a 1080p Frame at native Size while still being able to have some toolbars around it (in after effects e.g.)

I already found the 28" in several online shops for pre-ordering, at 1200 € sadly.
They didnt have a shipping estimage ready, but I guess it can't be too long if they already offer it..

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/28Zoll--71-12cm--Dell-28-Ultra-HD-P2815Q_944638.html
 
Comment

chfilm

macrumors 68030
Nov 15, 2012
2,966
1,722
Berlin
That's been doable for nearly a decade. We use monitors that provide 2560x1600 resolution on all of our workstations.

I have that on my 27" imac, but the screen space that's left for panels is way too small to make real use of. At least for me.. I have to put panels on the 2nd screen, while shrinking the timeline, which is a major annoyance again... so I guess the 4k panel should be nice. On the other hand the video might become too small to really work in detail without having to zoom in again :D Time will tell..
 
Comment

rjbenson83

macrumors regular
Dec 16, 2013
139
5
Atlanta
went all over today looking for a 1440P monitor to hold me down until 4k is a reasonable option, and this resolution is not sold in brick and mortar stores except for the thunderbolt display, which is not really a good deal.
 
Last edited:
Comment

Nugget

Contributor
Nov 24, 2002
2,041
1,195
Houston Texas USA
I have that on my 27" imac, but the screen space that's left for panels is way too small to make real use of.

The 27" iMac is 2560x1440. You're lacking almost 200 pixels of vertical workspace that the 30" 2560x1600 panels provide. It's not huge, but it's definitely a usable increase. I downgraded from dual 30" to dual 27" this past year at work and it was an adjustment.
 
Comment

unfrostedpoptar

macrumors regular
Jan 29, 2010
173
10
31" is going to be a sort of weird size for Mac users for a 4K monitor. Run in HIDPI mode and the UI will be comically large. Run normally and the UI will be quite small — about 10% smaller than on a 13" MacBook Air and 26% smaller than on a 15" MacBook Pro, if my math checks.

I agree with you. I'm running 4k/3840x2160 on the Seiki 39" and it's a good size with native/non-HiDPI and the UI looks about 10% smaller than on my 15" rMBP at the default 1440x900 HiDPI.
 
Comment

Rich.Cohen

macrumors regular
Oct 28, 2013
193
3
Washington DC
31" is going to be a sort of weird size for Mac users for a 4K monitor. Run in HIDPI mode and the UI will be comically large. Run normally and the UI will be quite small — about 10% smaller than on a 13" MacBook Air and 26% smaller than on a 15" MacBook Pro, if my math checks.

This is why I'm holding out for a 45"-50" monitor. With a 4K that size normal mode will be readable and that's what I need. I'm currently using a 2560 X 1600 monitor and I'd really like more pixels. I may by the Seiki 50", but I'm hoping something better (60 Hz) will appear in January.
 
Comment

drayon

macrumors 6502
Aug 20, 2007
388
113
Deep Inside
went all over today looking for a 1440P monitor to hold me down until 4k is a reasonable, and this resolution is not sold except for the thunderbolt display, which is not really a good deal.

LG UM95 and Dell U3415W will show off a 34" 21:9 3440x1440 at CES 2014, may be an option for a single display that needs to be a touch wider but has the same vertical height as a 27" 1440p.

----------

This is why I'm holding out for a 45"-50" monitor. With a 4K that size normal mode will be readable and that's what I need. I'm currently using a 2560 X 1600 monitor and I'd really like more pixels. I may by the Seiki 50", but I'm hoping something better (60 Hz) will appear in January.

Wouldn't the size range 45"-50" be too big and not enough pixels?
Seiki's 39" gives a 112.97 DPi which is a fraction more than a 27" 2560x1440 which is about 109 DPi. Considering a 30" 2650x1600 is only 100.63 DPI. Mind you the 30" Seiki is only 30Hz because of the older HDMI 1.3 but the have confirmed a 60Hz version is coming soon.

There's also the soon to be shown LG 34" UM95 21:9 3440x1440, 109.68 DPi. Vertical height is the same as a 27", if that is suitable.
 
Comment

Rich.Cohen

macrumors regular
Oct 28, 2013
193
3
Washington DC
Wouldn't the size range 45"-50" be too big and not enough pixels?
Seiki's 39" gives a 112.97 DPi which is a fraction more than a 27" 2560x1440 which is about 109 DPi. Considering a 30" 2650x1600 is only 100.63 DPI. Mind you the 30" Seiki is only 30Hz because of the older HDMI 1.3 but the have confirmed a 60Hz version is coming soon.

There's also the soon to be shown LG 34" UM95 21:9 3440x1440, 109.68 DPi. Vertical height is the same as a 27", if that is suitable.[/QUOTE]

I have an unusual need. I do very large static engineer drawings and I'd like to see as much of them as possible with readable text. For me a large screen with a resolution (in the original sense of the word) of 90 - 100 DPI would be ideal. With a higher resolution the smallest text is too small to read so the additional resolution does me no good.

A 40" 4K would be better than what I have now, but a 50" is better still. I did a cardboard mock-up and I can fit a 50" on my desk. The upper edge (menu) might require some head movement, but I think I can work with that. The potential mouse jump at 30 Hz is an issue and I'm hopping to see something faster in the next 1-2 months.
 
Comment

xraydoc

macrumors demi-god
Oct 9, 2005
8,373
2,402
192.168.1.1
Do we know for sure we can run 4K displays in "hi DPI" mode like a Retina MacBook? I've seen nothing so far that states this is possible.
 
Comment

theSeb

macrumors 604
Aug 10, 2010
7,437
1,824
Poole, England
Do we know for sure we can run 4K displays in "hi DPI" mode like a Retina MacBook? I've seen nothing so far that states this is possible.

Technically I see no reason why you would not, since with the right app you can achieve this on any display. I think you can do it with the developer tools, but I have not played around with that particular bit.
 
Comment

xraydoc

macrumors demi-god
Oct 9, 2005
8,373
2,402
192.168.1.1
Technically I see no reason why you would not, since with the right app you can achieve this on any display. I think you can do it with the developer tools, but I have not played around with that particular bit.

OK, I was able to enable the Hi-DPI modes with the Quartz Debug tool (part of Xcode).

On my 30" 2560x1600, it obviously only gives me a "Retina" 1280x800 mode, but it seems to be working just fine (at least for desktop apps; haven't tried any full-screen graphics apps/games though personally I don't use any).

And as was noted in a post above, the UI is comically large, but on a 4K monitor this would look great.

I'm now strongly considering the Dell 24" 4K monitor ($1,299). It would basically give me the equivalent of a "retina" 1920x1080 high-DPI display and the UI would be appropriately sized for a 24" display.

Yummy.
 
Comment
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.