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Dell 6K U3224KB Monitor

tstafford said:
I've never installed DDPM. Haven't come across a reason to need it. And I don't particularly like installing third party software if I can avoid it. Like you said, the display runs fine with MacOS and is enhanced a bit by BD.
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I'm much the same way when it comes to third-party software, but indeed BetterDisplay is definitely worth it. Having the Apple volume and brightness keyboard buttons control the Dell just like an Apple display is too nice to pass up.

tstafford said:
For those of you with the Dell 6K who are using BetterDisplay, have you noticed anything different about the brightness? I swear mine is now brighter but not necessarily in a good way. Like the software is boosting it more than it did before.
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I don't think I've had this brightness issue. But on my main Mac, I'm still using BetterDisplay v1.4.15. I tried the latest 2.x release of BetterDisplay this past week when trying to get 6K working on my 2020 Intel 13" MacBook Pro, but I didn't notice any brightness issues there either. However, I only briefly tried it out since I haven't yet been able to get 6K output to work with that Intel MacBook Pro. FYI, I much prefer the UI of the 1.x versions of BetterDisplay.
 
Thyme said:
I'm much the same way when it comes to third-party software, but indeed BetterDisplay is definitely worth it. Having the Apple volume and brightness keyboard buttons control the Dell just like an Apple display is too nice to pass up.
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I can control volume on my Dell without any 3rd party apps. Not the brightness though.
 
Do people adjust the brightness a lot? I adjust it when first setting it up, and then don’t really mess with it.
 
It looks like another firmware update has been posted for macOS: M2T107. I just installed this and it works, but I'm running into a weird bug around the webcam where if I try to adjust the AI autoframing in DDPM 1.3, the webcam hangs until I power-cycle the monitor. Reverting back to M2T106 seems to fix it though. Other than that it seemed fine. I did report it to Dell support.
 
Great, just few days of using it and today I turned it on and I can barely see anything on the screen. Rebooted MBP, did reset the display (although I changed nothing from default settings apart from choosing TB port)... Any ideas before RMA? Brightness/contrast are set to 75%.

EDIT: resolved as described on Dell website here. I had to unplug the monitor from the AC and plug it back... Dell says it should not happen from M2T103 onwards but I am on the M2T103 and it did happen.

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Apparently mine is U3224KBA I did not know it makes a difference. There doesn't seem to be firmware update beyond M2T105 for this model.
 
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stiwi said:
Great, just few days of using it and today I turned it on and I can barely see anything on the screen. Rebooted MBP, did reset the display (although I changed nothing from default settings apart from choosing TB port)... Any ideas before RMA? Brightness/contrast are set to 75%.

EDIT: resolved as described on Dell website here. I had to unplug the monitor from the AC and plug it back... Dell says it should not happen from M2T103 onwards but I am on the M2T103 and it did happen.

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Apparently mine is U3224KBA I did not know it makes a difference. There doesn't seem to be firmware update beyond M2T105 for this model.
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Yes, it is seemingly not available separately anywhere for the KBA version, but you can use the DDPM software to upgrade. it will download the correct updater and allow you to upgrade. (I just did it yesterday)
 
TMF93 said:
Yes, it is seemingly not available separately anywhere for the KBA version, but you can use the DDPM software to upgrade. it will download the correct updater and allow you to upgrade. (I just did it yesterday)
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There is here but only M2T105. Do you have KBA? To which version did DDPM upgrade your FW?
 
stiwi said:
There is here but only M2T105. Do you have KBA? To which version did DDPM upgrade your FW?
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Yes I am aware of it, but I meant the latest version...
DDPM just downloads the same utility loaded with the M2T107 firmware for the KBA, which I have not been able to find a link to anywhere else.
As you might have guessed, I am now running the M2T107 firmware :)
 
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TMF93 said:
Yes I am aware of it, but I meant the latest version...
DDPM just downloads the same utility loaded with the M2T107 firmware for the KBA, which I have not been able to find a link to anywhere else.
As you might have guessed, I am now running the M2T107 firmware :)
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The standalone M2T107 FW is here.
 
Is this now the monitor to get if wants something bigger than 27" 5k but doesn't want to go Pro XDR? Anything better might be in the pipeline?
 
Something is waking up my Dell monitor. My previous Dell when put to sleep did not wake up but this one does. I can see it by energy saving info showing up on the display from time to time. There is only TB connection between the monitor and MBP. The other accessories are Apple BT keyboard and MX Master mouse connected via BT. Do you think this may be the reason? I am running latest FW M2T107 but on M2T103 and M2T105 the same was happening. Any clues?
 
stiwi said:
Something is waking up my Dell monitor. My previous Dell when put to sleep did not wake up but this one does. I can see it by energy saving info showing up on the display from time to time. There is only TB connection between the monitor and MBP. The other accessories are Apple BT keyboard and MX Master mouse connected via BT. Do you think this may be the reason? I am running latest FW M2T107 but on M2T103 and M2T105 the same was happening. Any clues?
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I've had this problem too. Try turning off Fast Wakeup (OSD -> Personalize -> Fast Wakeup). After doing that, my Dell monitor no longer wakes up seemingly on its own. But the monitor can be a bit slow to wake up when I first sit down at my desk.
 
pugxiwawa said:
Is this now the monitor to get if wants something bigger than 27" 5k but doesn't want to go Pro XDR? Anything better might be in the pipeline?
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In terms of what's available now, yeah, I personally think this 32" Dell 6K is the most logical choice if you want a single monitor that is bigger than 27" and at least Studio Display pixel density (218 PPI). The only real "equivalent" alternatives currently on the market that I know of are the Apple Pro Display XDR and the Dell UP3218K, which is a 31.5" 8K screen from 2017. But both of those are at least 2x the price of the 6K Dell and likely only make sense if one has particular requirements, e.g., much better HDR or even higher pixel density. Of those three options, the 6K Dell was an easy choice for me and I'm quite happy with it. The 6K Dell is also easiest if you want to run multiple computers with it, as it acts like a KVM.

An alternative path is to get two 27" 5K displays using the Studio Display or the Samsung 5K display. I did seriously consider that route, but two Studio Displays was going to be more expensive than the 6K Dell and require unplugging cables to switch to different computers. A pair of the Samsung 5K monitors would likely be cheaper, but from what I've read about their unusual firmware/software, they aren't for me.

I'm not aware of anything in pipeline for large screens with Retina pixel density save vague and probably unreliable rumors about updates to the Studio Display and the Pro XDR. For those, I imagine we'll need to wait until Apple releases Macs with Thunderbolt 5 ports, and who knows when that will be. My guess is that the 6K Dell probably has at least one year more on the market without any new competitors being released.
 
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MikeDr206 said:
Do people adjust the brightness a lot? I adjust it when first setting it up, and then don’t really mess with it.
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I actually change the brightness level fairly frequently depending on what I'm doing, time of day, how much sun is coming in the windows, etc. But if I were in an office setting with constant light, probably I wouldn't need much at all. However, using dark mode also increases how frequently I tweak the brightness level. When I have everything nicely adjusted for dark UI, switching to something like a webpage with a white background can be a bit much on my eyes.
 
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Last night I read the review of this Dell 6K on Amazon. There is an amazingly large number of 1-star reviews and they all complained about the poor quality. If this picture is true, then it will be a very risky decision to buy this monitor. Do people here agree with this? Or somehow Amazon's source of products is problematic?
 
Thyme said:
I've had this problem too. Try turning off Fast Wakeup (OSD -> Personalize -> Fast Wakeup). After doing that, my Dell monitor no longer wakes up seemingly on its own. But the monitor can be a bit slow to wake up when I first sit down at my desk.
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Mine is already turned off as per the default monitor setting. So it must be something else.
 
whwang said:
Last night I read the review of this Dell 6K on Amazon. There is an amazingly large number of 1-star reviews and they all complained about the poor quality. If this picture is true, then it will be a very risky decision to buy this monitor. Do people here agree with this? Or somehow Amazon's source of products is problematic?
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I don't know if I'd call it "risky". But from my experience my ASDs seem to be of higher quality than my Dell 6K. I've had three ASDs and none have had issue whereas I've had to return the Dell one time due to an issue with the panel. Delll made that process fairly easy and no cost. So I wouldn't call it "risky". But it did happen.

Thyme has it right in the post above laying out the option. My two cents - I'd buy the Dell again. But if you are highly risk averse I'd suggest going with the two ASD option.
 
stiwi said:
Mine is already turned off as per the default monitor setting. So it must be something else.
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Hmm. In macOS, did you try disabling wake for network access? I have that disabled.

I am using an M2 Pro Mini and have a lot more connected than you do, but I also have an Apple keyboard and MX Master mouse (the 2S model), so maybe one of these is the issue? But my keyboard, a Touch ID model, has always been connected via a cable so it's probably not that. Up until this past weekend, my MX Master had been connected via BT and I've also had a Magic Trackpad connected via BT. But I just switched the trackpad to a cable connection and the mouse to Logitech's Unifying receiver instead of BT and both are plugged into the back of the monitor so that all three switch automatically with the monitor's KVM feature. I don't know if this will improve the waking problem but I just reenabled to Fast Wakeup to test it out.
 
I've also been surprised by the poor Amazon reviews, frankly. While several people in this thread have had issues with the monitor, that's not particularly unusual -- as a general rule, people who don't have problems don't post.

My monitor has been flawless FWIW. And it works flawlessly, but for the webcam being a POS.

And since Amazon (and presumably Dell) have a 30-day return window, I wouldn't have any qualms about ordering the monitor. If there's a quality issue, I'd return it for an exchange. And if it doesn't work with your setup for some reason, return it for a refund.
 
Thyme said:
Does it? According to TFTCentral, the PA32KCX is rumored to cost around $8000.
Pressure said:
I think it's only going to be $3000 but we will see.
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I don't believe this is realistic... 4k mini-led panels are already in this price range.
While 8k USD might be a bit high, I expect the price to be at least XDR money, and likely more expensive.
With this display, they have a unique offering firmly targeted to professionals. (As in: spending somebody else's money) They have no incentive to go low.

On the other hand, they are also going to release 2 new displays: 27" 5k and 32" 6k. Even if they are basically the same panels as what we already have, any competition is good to lower prices.
 
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stiwi said:
Something is waking up my Dell monitor. My previous Dell when put to sleep did not wake up but this one does. I can see it by energy saving info showing up on the display from time to time. There is only TB connection between the monitor and MBP. The other accessories are Apple BT keyboard and MX Master mouse connected via BT. Do you think this may be the reason? I am running latest FW M2T107 but on M2T103 and M2T105 the same was happening. Any clues?
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Having looked into this more, it seems that the Bluetooth-connected MX Master mouse might be the cause of the Dell monitor waking up. Per my reply several days ago, I re-enabled Fast Wakeup and switched my MX Master 2S mouse from a Bluetooth connection to Logitech's Unifying receiver plugged into the monitor, and since then I haven't had this waking problem reoccur at all. Another person in the Mac Mini forum seemed to have the same waking problem and also said the waking was occurring due to the wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse.

I am hoping that the waking problem really is solved by only using the Logitech receiver instead of Bluetooth because with Fast Wakeup enabled on the Dell, my monitor now always wakes up nearly instantly. When it was disabled, my Mini and monitor would sometimes take many seconds to wake up, partly because it wouldn't even be responsive to the keyboard, mouse, and trackpad when trying to wake up the computer.
 
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