Dell XPS has IGZO now , how about rMBP IGZO?

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  1. whitedragon101 macrumors 6502a

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    The new Dell XPS 15 has IGZO + top components and its only 1500usd. Maybe apple might be going IGZO ?

    Also now Dell holds the crown for highest res laptop. Apple could steal their thunder with an IGZO 17 rMBP". (pretty please...)
     
  2. Starfyre macrumors 68000

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    Whats the big deal about IGZO? The battery life of the XPS 15 appears very poor:


    The XPS 15 is offered with either a 6-cell or 9-cell battery. Our configuration included the smaller 56Wh 6-cell battery, which performed pretty well while still maintaining a clean flush appearance on the bottom of the notebook chassis. In our testing with the screen brightness reduced to 70%, keyboard backlit disabled, wireless on and refreshing a webpage every 60 seconds, and Windows 7 set to the Balanced profile the XPS 15 stayed on for 5 hours and 16 minutes. For a notebook with an upper midrange processor and decent dedicated graphics, this was pretty good. Expect roughly 7 to 8 hours on the larger 9-cell battery.
     
  3. NickPhamUK macrumors 6502

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    1. 'based on the IGZO-technology'. If I interpret it correctly, it's not IGZO display. As far as I remember, the technology is quite expensive now, that's why we haven't seen any device with it as of yet.

    2. Dell still has a terrible battery life. With 'IGZO-based technology'.

    3. And rMBP still has superior life (although not using the same OS). How ironic.
     
  4. zI INFINITY Iz macrumors regular

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    "The catch could be price. The new XPS 15 will start at $1,499 on October 18th, but that's just for the base model with a Core i5 processor, a 1080p screen, integrated Intel graphics, hybrid storage, and even a smaller battery. That's already pricy, and it's likely Dell will charge a good bit more to get the specs that set this laptop apart."

    - TheVerge
     
  5. OneCharmingQuar, Oct 3, 2013
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    Edit: It appears I found your source is an article about an older XPS 15 review from 2011. How is this relevant in any way? This makes all of my other extrapolation completely irrelevant.

    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6020&review=dell+xps+15&p=4


    1. The Dell M3800 is the same machine, only with a Quadro card. It has been advertised as having a IGZO display. The M4800 is a different machine, but uses a non-touch, matte version of the monitor. There's also no known technology that could be described as being "based on IGZO-technology" without actually being actual IGZO. In leaked configuration options the IGZO display on the M4800 is a $120 upgrade from the 1080p IPS display. Hardly too expensive to include in a machine like this.

    2. and 3. The claim quoted above is about an older machine with a smaller battery, without Haswell, without IGZO. It has little, if anything, to do with current models.
     
  6. Starfyre macrumors 68000

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    I see it... 10.5 hours battery life...

    http://us.hardware.info/news/37294/...ersion-of-dell-precision-m3800-3200x1800-igzo

    I hope the Apple doesn't just bump their machine up to 10 hours of battery life. It just wouldn't make any sense for the battery to be below anything Dell offers or any PC manufacturer unless Windows is somehow good at power management.
     
  7. OneCharmingQuar macrumors member

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    10.5 hours is for the XPS 13. The only number I've seen for the XPS 15 is 13 hours. My guess is that number came from some Dell representative during the announcement. Still, we don't know exactly what the circumstances for that result is. My hope is that it will roughly match the Haswell MBA 13. The main difference between Macbooks and Windows laptops in terms of battery seems to be in the OEM hardware. There are Windows laptops with 9-cell batteries and 15" or 17" displays that already meet or beat the rMBP in Optimus mode. I think the battery life in this particular matchup comes down to if the rMBP gets an IGZO display or not. Mavericks, no touchscreen, lower resolution, and a slightly larger battery all put the rMBP in an advantageous position, but all indications are that IGZO monitors represent a large cut in power consumption. I can easily see it trumping every other advantage that Apple could bring. From what I understand Apple is making a new iPad with an IGZO display. The leaked pictures of it show that it is considerably smaller. This is only possible if there is a big reduction in battery juice required to power the display.
     
  8. Mr MM macrumors 65816

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    1. actually there are several notebooks that are using and will launch with IGZO

    2. not really battery has not been tested, and there is a large battery that goes with the most expensive model that comes with a dgpu

    3. depends on the above
     
  9. GSPice macrumors 68000

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    It's be interesting to see how much battery life is improved with IGZO, while keeping all other factors (OS, CPU, etc) constant.

    Something a little better than an IGZO promo chart..
     

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