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iPod demand for older ipod classics

gooser

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i'm predicting that the demand for older ipods will increase slightly since the newest iphones no longer have headphone jacks. any opinions?
 

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The newest iPhones now have storage options greater than the classic, so the demand might reduce.
 
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No. In the past, where iPhones topped out at 32GB-64GB, iPod classics are great. Today, we have 256GB iPhones.
Plus, Apple is still selling the 6S and SE, with that magical headphone jack.
Oh and then there's the iPod Touch as well.
Besides, if I would buy an iPod classic today, I would worry about its battery life (due to age) and longevity (it's a hard-drive, it is doomed to fail sooner than later). Heck, I would just buy a cheap Android phone and put a 128GB SD card in it.
 
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No. In the past, where iPhones topped out at 32GB-64GB, iPod classics are great. Today, we have 256GB iPhones.
Plus, Apple is still selling the 6S and SE, with that magical headphone jack.
Oh and then there's the iPod Touch as well.
Besides, if I would buy an iPod classic today, I would worry about its battery life (due to age) and longevity (it's a hard-drive, it is doomed to fail sooner than later). Heck, I would just buy a cheap Android phone and put a 128GB SD card in it.
But today we also have 1 terabyte ipods with the advent of new drives.
 
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But today we also have 1 terabyte ipods with the advent of new drives.
No, there isn't enough demand for 1TB iPods.
The trends:
1. People want one device, not multiple devices. Right now, that is the smartphone
2. Most people don't actually have terabytes of songs. The original concept "1000 songs" in your pocket is still plenty for most.
 
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repentix

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i'm predicting that the demand for older ipods will increase slightly since the newest iphones no longer have headphone jacks. any opinions?

What are you implying exactly? As far as I can see only the prices of the ipod classics have risen, as there is no direct replacement. Nano, Shuffle, touch etc. are still in production WITH a heapphone jack.
 
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What are you implying exactly? As far as I can see only the prices of the ipod classics have risen, as there is no direct replacement. Nano, Shuffle, touch etc. are still in production WITH a heapphone jack.


i'm implying that some people will soon realize that a 10 year old ipod is better suited for music than a brand new phone. please note that i said some, not all.
 
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i'm implying that some people will soon realize that a 10 year old ipod is better suited for music than a brand new phone. please note that i said some, not all.

I personally count myself in the category you described. I've never had any music on my phone, and they will have to pry my iPod classic from my dead hands before I give it up.

I'm not flat out denying the simplicity of doing it all on one device (i.e. the iPhone), but I've just developed a habit of using the iPod for music, which it handles wonderfully, and for everything else the phone. And by everything else I mean photos, email, calls, surfing the web, etc., everything but watching films or shows. Those belong on a bigger screen. But that's not what's being discussed here, so it really doesn't matter.

When I come across a decently priced iPod Classic, I'm buying it just to have a spare should I need one.
 
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Heck, I would just buy a cheap Android phone and put a 128GB SD card in it.
That's what I did. $20 for a cheap Android phone and $35 for a 128GB SD card. For $55 I have an MP3 player with more storage and much longer battery life and much lighter weight than the ipod classics.
 
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That's what I did. $20 for a cheap Android phone and $35 for a 128GB SD card. For $55 I have an MP3 player with more storage and much longer battery life and much lighter weight than the ipod classics.

How do you manage to sync it with your library though? I've tried that doubletwist and thought it was poor. I'm seeing 256GB SSD modded classics on ebay for £250ish these days, I think the price has started to go down. It wasn't long ago that people were asking for £400+ just for a classic with a spinning drive.
 
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How do you manage to sync it with your library though? I've tried that doubletwist and thought it was poor. I'm seeing 256GB SSD modded classics on ebay for £250ish these days, I think the price has started to go down. It wasn't long ago that people were asking for £400+ just for a classic with a spinning drive.
There are plenty of tools to sync anything with an iTunes library nowadays. I use iSyncr myself.
Easiest way of course is to just sync/copy the whole library into an SD card.

The thing is, personally I think if I have a player with huge storage, then I would not worry too much about syncing since I will be carrying all my library with me (and any new songs can be copied easily via "Recently added" playlist). Syncing is more critical when the player's storage is much less than the library size, at least from my view.
 
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How do you manage to sync it with your library though?
No need to sync anything. I take the SD card out of the phone, insert it on my Mac, use Finder to transfer new music to it and then put it back in the phone.
iTunes is used only for ripping CDs.
 
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Smellmet

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There are plenty of tools to sync anything with an iTunes library nowadays. I use iSyncr myself.
Easiest way of course is to just sync/copy the whole library into an SD card.

The thing is, personally I think if I have a player with huge storage, then I would not worry too much about syncing since I will be carrying all my library with me (and any new songs can be copied easily via "Recently added" playlist). Syncing is more critical when the player's storage is much less than the library size, at least from my view.

Forgive my ignorance, but how do you do that? Are you just talking about dumping the files on an SD card? For me, my playlists (and I've got close to 100 of them in my carefully curated library of nearly 16000 songs) are pretty much the most important aspect of listening to music on the move, so how would you make that happen on an SD card?
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but how do you do that? Are you just talking about dumping the files on an SD card? For me, my playlists (and I've got close to 100 of them in my carefully curated library of nearly 16000 songs) are pretty much the most important aspect of listening to music on the move, so how would you make that happen on an SD card?
The tool I mentioned, iSyncr, supports iTunes generated playlists. I simply use it to sync my library and playlists to an SD card on my Android device, and I'm done. On Android, I use Rocket player (made by the same people that created iSyncr), and the playlists are all there.
 
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How do you manage to sync it with your library though? I've tried that doubletwist and thought it was poor. I'm seeing 256GB SSD modded classics on ebay for £250ish these days, I think the price has started to go down. It wasn't long ago that people were asking for £400+ just for a classic with a spinning drive.
If you only need a separate music player this modded iPods are a great choice. Apple store offers iPod Touch 128gb for 376 pounds in your country. The already bad battery life has worsened with ios10. Spending 60/70% you have double storage, a great DAC, a new and maxed out battery (mine has 2000 mAh) given the free room recovered with no mechanical HDD in. You can expect almost 4 times of playback hours compared to the mechanical old one. I provided mine with 512 gb and put my cd's ripped in lossless ALAC. Great battery means less charge cycles and longer battery life. And the click-wheel is perfect for stopping, skipping and navigating. With iPod touch you always have to put the screen on.
And you can ask for a FM radio too...
I'm mad at Apple for not giving me a choice like this one
 
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Smellmet

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Yeah, I think I'm going to get a 256GB+ modded Classic off ebay. I don't want a touch. Not enough capacity to justify the expense. I've got all my music on my Galaxy S5 via Google Play as a backup too. The ipod just does the job asked of it perfectly though.
 
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I personally count myself in the category you described. I've never had any music on my phone, and they will have to pry my iPod classic from my dead hands before I give it up.

I'm not flat out denying the simplicity of doing it all on one device (i.e. the iPhone), but I've just developed a habit of using the iPod for music, which it handles wonderfully, and for everything else the phone. And by everything else I mean photos, email, calls, surfing the web, etc., everything but watching films or shows. Those belong on a bigger screen. But that's not what's being discussed here, so it really doesn't matter.

When I come across a decently priced iPod Classic, I'm buying it just to have a spare should I need one.

Agree 100% with all of the above.

Just yesterday I bought a used Classic 160G with a busted hard drive for $40. I plan on modding it to use micro sdxc flash cards. End result will be a roomy 512G hot rod with ALL my music organized exactly the way I want it.
 
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You know, iOS devices just don't sync for dick with iTunes compared to a good old iPod classic.

I NEVER, EVER have syncing problems with my classic, but holy hell are my iOS devices a struggle to sync with iTunes (set to manually manage music and videos). Half the time songs get that stupid dashed gray circle next to them despite them playing just fine, when I delete a playlist from the device and then add it, half the time I end up with duplicate playlists or the old ones still on the device, and sometimes I even will transfer a playlist with X songs and then when I look on the playlist on the device, it has Y songs and is incomplete. I mean what hot garbage iOS devices are when interfacing with iTunes? Right now as I type this I am actually completely reformatting my iPad...just because I wanted to add 15 songs to it...2.5 hours ago. What a joke, iOS devices have NEVER played well with iTunes. This isn't the first time adding music has resulted in a complete ****ing reformat either.

iPod classic, will never, ever let go of it. It's just too good.
 
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ggoerl

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Apple and *cough* Tim C(r)ook *cough* screwed up by discontinuing the classic. They could've made a flash memory model of the classic 128, 256, 512, etc. I still use my classic to this day and modded it and is now 512gb and in the future when flash memory becomes cheaper I plan to make it a 1tb. Although the unfortunate part about continuing to use classics is I am sure Apple at some point will drop Itunes support for them forcing us to use older versions which I have no qualms with as with each and every newer revision to itunes I hate it more and more.
 
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