Great. For 3 years I can keep my $27.50 Sprint Unlimited Talk & Text plan with 10 GB of data & tethering.
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Department of Justice Approves $26B Merger of T-Mobile and Sprint
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I think it's a good merger.
Sprint can fix all the problems T-Mobile has.
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All carrier's coverage vary by location.
Sprint can fix all the problems T-Mobile has.
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All carrier's coverage vary by location.
That’s good to know about the grandfathered plans. I still have my Simple Choice Unlimited plan and don’t want to give it up. If I switch to Verizon, I will end up paying $30-$50 more per month, and that will include my federal government discount.
Not really. On paper, that's what you're told.
In practice, however, most throttling (or "deprioritization" of sorts) usually occurs in periods of heavy network congestion. Go do some research.
@s54 Aren't you both saying the same thing? Who are you asking to go do some research? The original poster or @Steve.P.JobsFan Not being argumentative, just confused as to who you are addressing.
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Only some phones, specifically built for Google Fi, are able to take advantage of switching between all the carriers you mentioned.
I believe that all all LTE phones require a SIM card. It's part of the standard.
The Qualcomm iPhone, and some Intel iPhone(s) can do CDMA and GSM (LTE) depending on what SIM is installed. I guess it is going to come down to the bands, and frequencies that other brands/models of phones support.
I don't believe it's the antenna or just an antenna issue. I believe it's the Intel modem in the iPhone 8 (when you buy it from a GSM carrier) as it doesn't support CDMA. An unlocked iPhone 8, with the Qualcomm modem will work on GSM or CDMA.
There’s a reason ATT and Verizon lobbyists were on the Hill against this. Now they have TWO new competitors in Dish and T-Mobile who have the assets to rival them.
Well, the way I see it is that if they’ll still only be the third largest they will be able to compete better against Verizon and AT&T. You need revenue to keep up with new technologies and building out the infrastructure takes a huge investment. This just allows them to compete, and meet demand sooner.
That’s just my opinion
That’s just my opinion
A manager discounted AT&T family plan(2 phones) was $75(before taxes and fees) without unlimited data and that was 5 years ago. I pay $82(all taxes and fees included) for the military one plan(2 phones) with unlimited data and Netflix included. If we use less than 2gb per phone we get a $10 credit.
AT&T’s only advantage is bundle discounts and coverage in the some cities and rural areas. AT&T only has a cost advantage over Verizon, the other baby bell.
So the 3rd and 4th largest companies merge to form.... the 3rd largest. lmao.
Explain to me how having even less competition is good for consumers? And who’s to say this “New” T-Mobile won’t just get gobbled up by AT&T or Verizon before the end of the next decade?
And don’t give me this junk about Dish taking Sprint’s place as the #4 carrier because I can see that whole ordeal ending very badly for them in that regard. They have, quite frankly no base to build upon, to establish themselves a name in the mobile arena.
Explain to me how having even less competition is good for consumers? And who’s to say this “New” T-Mobile won’t just get gobbled up by AT&T or Verizon before the end of the next decade?
And don’t give me this junk about Dish taking Sprint’s place as the #4 carrier because I can see that whole ordeal ending very badly for them in that regard. They have, quite frankly no base to build upon, to establish themselves a name in the mobile arena.
Dish has free reign to use the T-Mo/Sprint network for seven years while they build out their own.
The idea that we had four nationwide cellular carriers is just laughable. Sprint never had the size to be a credible threat to Verizon or AT&T.
We had two nationwide cellular carriers and two budget level metro area carriers. John Legere realized that he could start to build a company by marketing to millennials in urban areas who didn't need coverage in rural areas. As they aged and their disposable income increased, he added services that he knew that would fine useful. This allowed him to increase rates and build out his network.
[doublepost=1564365933][/doublepost]Great deal! What country were you win and how many carriers did they have?
If Dish builds out their network.
They've been hoarding wireless spectrum for years, and they haven't done a single thing with it. Now that the date by which they need to put their spectrum to use or they lose it is fast approaching (Mar. 2020), you think they'll be able to come up with the tens of billions of dollars needed to build out their network?
They already have $16 billion in debt. If they issue more debt to pay for their build out, how will they ever make their money back and pay it off? Their tv business has been on the decline for years.
Dish is getting about 8 million subscribers by taking over Sprint's Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile pre-paid customers. Remember, pre-paid customers have very high churn rates.
You think Dish, with their 8 million subscribers, will be able to compete against Verizon and AT&T, who have over 150 million subscribers each, and a merged T-Mobile-Sprint who will have over 100 million subscribers?
If Sprint had trouble competing with around 55 million subscribers, how is Dish ever going to survive with just 8 million subscribers and their massive debt?
Answer: They won't. They'll get bought by Verizon, AT&T or T-Mobile/Sprint in a few years because they will have been too small to compete.
I'm still a little confused about this idea that Dish will build their own network.
Verizon has their own network, AT&T has their own network, Sprint and T-Mobile will have their own network.... but Dish is gonna start now, in 2019, to build a nationwide network?
That's quite a massive undertaking, right?
The other guys have had decades to build their networks. Is there room for someone else to start from scratch?
Verizon has their own network, AT&T has their own network, Sprint and T-Mobile will have their own network.... but Dish is gonna start now, in 2019, to build a nationwide network?
That's quite a massive undertaking, right?
The other guys have had decades to build their networks. Is there room for someone else to start from scratch?
They don't need to start building anything if they don't want to. It's already there. They're getting Sprint's 800 mhz network, that's nationwide and no worse than T-Mobile's 700 mhz. They're getting access to T-Mobile's network for 7 years. They're going to be getting served on hosting services that were purpose-built by Sprint during the Network Vision project a decade ago that nobody has bought into yet (giving the new T-Mobile their first customer for it). They're getting any towers T-Mobile decides are redundant and would shut down. At a bare minimum, they'll be able to build out a network that matches Sprint's coverage range in mere months -- they just have to utilize the hosting service.
And at this point, there's very little internal ownership of the tower networks. 3rd parties own the poles, and all of them share it and have their racks put on them. It's the small cell networks, hanging off street lights and the sides of buildings, where the internal ownership is now.
Everything you’ve said about Dish applies to Sprint as a stand alone company. Sprint has holdings of spectrum they haven’t built out and they massive debt. How can Sprint be a viable company by itself but Dish cannot.
Not sure what they teach in business school. In law school, though, if as the OP put it, they "all to raise prices together," they teach us that's illegal.
I've been a corporate lawyer for 21 years. No need to consult Wikipedia.
I hadn't looked into adoring in years. It honestly wasn't a huge player for us recently because we didn't really know how phone compatibility worked. Most of Our current phones were all purchased through TMobile and unlocked. The SE my son is using was a Verizon device that icbiguht second hand. Should they all theoretically work?
Right now we are paying $100 exactly for four lines. I wouldn't be against adding a fifth (I've seen five lines for $100 promotion with Sprint but hadn't kid too much attention)
But you see they are not colluding to raises prices at the same time. They are all reading the signals from others. Take for example airline prices. If you notice historically the big boys all move their prices in pretty much lock step with each other. By lock step I mean with in a few days. If one raise prices the others will either follow suit or the one who raised it will drop back down. It all very slowly none of it illegal or even colluding just a way to do it and they can all claim they are using the same information and made it independently of each other.
I wonder if Sprint even finished integrating Nextel systems properly. I am going to bet no, and they will regret this. Sprint was a poorly run company, and their operations and back office systems were a mess. But that was years ago, maybe they cleaned up their act.
5G doesn't matter for cell phones, fixed installations yes.
What we will get is three large carriers with less competitive pricing.