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Department of Justice Exploring Apple's Treatment of 'Roblox' Game in Antitrust Investigation
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Does anyone really think that Apple treats all developers equally? I’m pretty sure they made a deal with Amazon for Prime. If Apple genuinely believes that the App Store is about safety, they should stop trying to use it as a money-making enterprise.
At first when this case started I was like "Apple shouldn't be such a bully and they are too greedy." They are guilty on both counts but thats beside the point. I see Epic games as a much bigger problem. They can create games for the mac like any other developer. They can create games outside the app store on macs and unfortunately use that for their tactic of making you constantly pay for more shiny useless garbage bobbles and skins. Or they could create a game that one can pay once, get most of what they want out of it and then upgrade the next year to the newest version. Nothing is stopping them from doing this on the Mac. But they won't do that. Its all or nothing with them. Just so they can get more kids addicted to paying every month to play a game. Let them hurt. Its a terrible tactic and the worst of those companies should not be rewarded for it. They can partner up with a tablet maker and just sell a tablet and say its the best fortnite tablet experience. Thus taking sales from iPads. They can offer a simple webstore that is a companion to the free app that only works when you log in with a valid paid for account you create on your companion website. Any time you want to buy something you get it off the companion website. Simple enough to instruct the user to pin it to their home screen. They can even offer the game and just charge more for everthing on the mac so they get more money, and make it the worlds biggest open secret that anyone can just buy from their web store or companion app and get everything at deep discounts (the price everyone else pays). But no, they think they can bully Apple. Good luck with that. If they lose they will have earned it.
Basically yes.
Being pretty sure is not the same as absolutely knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt.
One thing has nothing to do with another, imo.
Apple Halved App Store Fee to Get Amazon Prime Video on Devices
Apple Inc. agreed in 2016 to halve its App Store fee for Amazon.com Inc. as part of a deal to put the e-commerce giant’s Prime Video app on Apple’s mobile devices and TV set-top box.
www.bloomberg.com
Are we talking in 2020-2021 or since 2008. Treating customers equally doesn't mean that 100% of customers have to be treated exactly alike. Discounts are usually given in business to the largest customers. And yeah, we know that certain concessions have been granted over the years to certain customers. So to be pedantic if a company has 1,000,000 customers and they treat 999,999 exactly the same and the largest client granted a discount, you would say the company doesn't treat it's customers equally?Apple Halved App Store Fee to Get Amazon Prime Video on Devices
Apple Inc. agreed in 2016 to halve its App Store fee for Amazon.com Inc. as part of a deal to put the e-commerce giant’s Prime Video app on Apple’s mobile devices and TV set-top box.
What a bunch of nonsense.
This is not a moral crusade. One corporation made a profitable model and another big corporation wants some of that pie back so they are suing. It’s just faceless corporations fighting. There might be reasons to prefer one outcome but not because one is “free” or getting squeezed. They agreed to get squeezed. No one is making them.
treating 999,999 customers the same and 1 differently is literally not treating them equally
No, I would not. Especially since the ones being treated differently are the ones with power, proving that if other developers had more power compared to Apple (such as the ability to go to another store), Apple would behave differently.
Because Apple should have to build and maintain server farms, continue to develop and give away the operating system to users for free, and build developers tools and APIs for developers to use, and get… nothing in return. Please don’t pretend like Apple does nothing in exchange.
Can you make me one single corporation that treats exactly 100% of customers the same?
As far as I'm aware, most CEOs of corporations don't testify that they treat everyone equally before a congressional subcommittee. I could be wrong though.
Considering developers don't consider all customers equally I have no sympathy.
I hope your point is that none of them should be respected at all since none of them respect equally.
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This is as bad as some of the logic on these forums used to defend Apple at times.
How does it work regarding “dynamic” code which Roblox and these type of games seem to rely on?
It was my understanding years ago, for example, that allowing or downloading interpreted languages features would be rejected as it had to be all strictly precompiled… but then Codea (Lua) appeared, and Roblox, and a bunch of web-wrapped “apps”.
Is python/lua/etc allowed nowadays? Because I would at least dip my toes on that for games, at least for curiosity learning hoping for an actual future use.
Roblox games, errrr, experiences are not sold. Epic could give away skins and Apple wouldn’t make a dime. Neither would Epic or course.
Which CEO did that? It wasn’t Tim Cook if that was going to be your answer. He said the App Store review rules applied equally, not that every developer would be treated equally in every aspect of their relationship with Apple.
That’s what we’re talking about though. You know exactly what I meant even if I didn’t get the quote exactly right.
Another week brings another legal issue for apple. Quite a bit of legal trouble for apple in the recent past.
I disagree, apple treats developers equally….however it should provide special support to its largest customers. This is typical of most for profit customer facing businesses.
If a dev wants out of bounds of a controlling environment there is google with alternate play stores.
No it’s not though. Giving Amazon a discount on AppStore fees as part of a deal has nothing to do with the AppStore review process. It does not involve in any way the privacy and security checking that the AppStore review process that Tim Cook was asked about and was responding to.