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BenRoethig said:
It would take a lot of money since Havok charges the same rate for a Mac port as the original PC game.

Yeah, that's pretty amazing--do the folks at Havok really hate the Mac platform?

Havok has already been ported to Mac, but Havok has decided to charge an impossibly high licensing cost that no Mac game company could ever afford. The same cost, as you say, as the Windows version--which sells to a much larger audience. And Havok seems to have been standing firm on this "no Macs" policy for over a year now. It's hard to see how that choice would be "just business" for Havok.

Luckily Havok isn't the only physics system--and I think UT2007 will support more than one (like Aegia which is already in Mac games)--but it's a very popular one for now. (And I seem to recall other middleware charging on the same unfair Mac=Windows scale, and really hurting other games in the past. GameSpy maybe?)

http://www.insidemacgames.com/features/view.php?ID=351

"Today's second biggest threat to a healthy Mac gaming market is Havok (piracy, in case you were wondering, is the first), the physics game engine used by popular games such as Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault, Halo 2, and oh yes, Half-Life 2. In at least a few cases, a few Mac ports have been shelved because of a lack of a Mac version of Havok. Ever wonder why Deus Ex 2 never made it to the Mac? Havok. To make matters worse, upcoming games such as Age of Empires III and HellGate and possibly dozens of other games will be using Havok.

It takes no genius to see that the Havok problem is now dire. So, what exactly is said problem? Why isn't Havok available for the Mac? As you might expect, it comes down to money. According to industry sources, the folks at Havok want a six figure dollar amount for Havok Mac. The issue, of course, is that there's no way any Mac game publisher could afford this, especially when you consider that the Mac publisher has to pay a PC publisher the rights for a game. Imagine having to pay $50,000 for the Mac rights to a title, then having to turn around and pay $150,000 just to have Havok on the Mac (my dollar figures are just examples, folks, I don't know the actual numbers).

Ok, now here's the worst part of it. According to my sources, the Havok code is already available on the Mac. That's right. It's pretty much ready to go. Havok just needs to get paid. The issue at hand, it seems, is the amount of money Havok wants for their precious physics code."
 
😱 Thats a lot of cash (if only an esimate). The only thing that could make it worth while is if the number of Mac's sold doubles in the next year or so. I think there are a lot of if's at the moment. Just going to have to wait and see 😕 ...but if I wait much longer a may just get a gaming PC! (I feel dirty now, I need to wash!) 😛
 
G.Kirby said:
😱 Thats a lot of cash (if only an esimate). The only thing that could make it worth while is if the number of Mac's sold doubles in the next year or so.
If you're talking about Havok, it would need more than that! (But the Havok group COULD come to their senses.)

G.Kirby said:
Just going to have to wait and see 😕 ...but if I wait much longer a may just get a gaming PC! (I feel dirty now, I need to wash!) 😛
Do it! Just make sure it's a Mac 🙂 New Intel Mac towers with top-end GPU options should be coming within a matter of months.

You could BYO gaming PC for cheaper... but then eventually you'll want a new Mac anyway. Combine the two purchases and you come out ahead in price AND convenience.
 
nagromme said:
If you're talking about Havok, it would need more than that! (But the Havok group COULD come to their senses.)

I hope so too. It all sounds a bit Microsoft to me 🙄

nagromme said:
Do it! Just make sure it's a Mac 🙂 New Intel Mac towers with top-end GPU options should be coming within a matter of months.

You could BYO gaming PC for cheaper... but then eventually you'll want a new Mac anyway. Combine the two purchases and you come out ahead in price AND convenience.


I will need to wait until Quark and Adobe release their new software, Quark7 and CS3. Been having BIG problems with Intel Mac's at work and Quark6.5 and CS2 so I'm not quite ready to spend my hard earned just yet.....May be next year as my current Mac just turned one last week 😀
 
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